I was denied DAS

Disneyland does have more rides (especially in Fantasyland, but also Jungle Cruise, Haunted Mansion, Pirates, Big Thunder, Space Mountain) that will give the wheelchair return time. When my Mom wants to walk, I have her push the wheelchair like it is a walker. Gives her extra stability and something to hold onto. It can also be parked among strollers if you want to wait in a regular line. We just prefer bringing it in for Mom to have anytime she needs it.
very thankful for the personal input I'm getting right now. Didn't even think about pushing it myself and maybe putting my backpack on it when my sciatica gets bad or I just need baby off my bladder. It is a concern missing out on classic lines like Pirates, Haunted Mansion (do I miss out on the pre-show if I'm in wheelchair?) so that's only my concern...
Awesome that there are places to park it if my and my hubby both need a break from it's extra eight especially the first two hours of park opening
 
If you are in a line with the wheelchair, you or someone with you can push it empty.
A lot of people park the wheelchair in an area, walk around and then move it around to the next area. CMs can tell you where to park it.
That's really good to know, I also don't want my husbands arm dying off and I don't want him to miss out on special rides queues that really make it the disney experience.
It'll be our babymoon.
We also purchased genie+ for both days.
 
very thankful for the personal input I'm getting right now. Didn't even think about pushing it myself and maybe putting my backpack on it when my sciatica gets bad or I just need baby off my bladder. It is a concern missing out on classic lines like Pirates, Haunted Mansion (do I miss out on the pre-show if I'm in wheelchair?) so that's only my concern...
Awesome that there are places to park it if my and my hubby both need a break from it's extra eight especially the first two hours of park opening

Pirates at Disneyland - you will enter through the exit and board from that side. If you go early, you most likely will be able to walk right in the exit and have a short wait. later in the day, you will get a return time and then come back. They will ask if you need to bring the wheelchair in or not and decide what type of return time to give you.

Haunted is a bit different. You will get a return time with the wheelchair. When you go back to ride, they will ask you if you can stand and walk for a period of time or if you need to take your chair all the way in. Just tell them what works best for you. That might be one of your times to walk and stretch a bit. They have a parking area for wheelchairs and ECVs closer to the actual building once you head in. We need to bring our wheelchair in as my Mom is not steady on her feet anymore and she has been nearly knocked down a few times in the hallway area. Either way, the CMs will tell you when it is your turn to come in (either up the ramp with the chair or the stairs if you park it), and you will go right into the stretching room. With the chair, you will be last into the stretching room and last out. If you don't take the chair, you will then board and exit as normal and come pick up the chair in the parking area. If you do bring the chair in, you will be pealed off the line about 1/2 way down the hall by the busts and park in a little area. They will ask if you can board with the moving walkway slowed or if you need it stopped. If slowed, they will break the line and put you on. If you need it stopped, you need to watch for cars 130, 131, 1, and 2 as those are the handicap ones. They will stop the walkway to let you on when those make it around. Either way, you will be coming back to the boarding area instead of getting off at the exit. Once you get off the ride, you are escorted back down the hall and into a stretching room to ride back up (kind of a different experience!). The doors open and people will flood in and when they are done coming in, you will exit out.
 
Pirates at Disneyland - you will enter through the exit and board from that side. If you go early, you most likely will be able to walk right in the exit and have a short wait. later in the day, you will get a return time and then come back. They will ask if you need to bring the wheelchair in or not and decide what type of return time to give you.

Haunted is a bit different. You will get a return time with the wheelchair. When you go back to ride, they will ask you if you can stand and walk for a period of time or if you need to take your chair all the way in. Just tell them what works best for you. That might be one of your times to walk and stretch a bit. They have a parking area for wheelchairs and ECVs closer to the actual building once you head in. We need to bring our wheelchair in as my Mom is not steady on her feet anymore and she has been nearly knocked down a few times in the hallway area. Either way, the CMs will tell you when it is your turn to come in (either up the ramp with the chair or the stairs if you park it), and you will go right into the stretching room. With the chair, you will be last into the stretching room and last out. If you don't take the chair, you will then board and exit as normal and come pick up the chair in the parking area. If you do bring the chair in, you will be pealed off the line about 1/2 way down the hall by the busts and park in a little area. They will ask if you can board with the moving walkway slowed or if you need it stopped. If slowed, they will break the line and put you on. If you need it stopped, you need to watch for cars 130, 131, 1, and 2 as those are the handicap ones. They will stop the walkway to let you on when those make it around. Either way, you will be coming back to the boarding area instead of getting off at the exit. Once you get off the ride, you are escorted back down the hall and into a stretching room to ride back up (kind of a different experience!). The doors open and people will flood in and when they are done coming in, you will exit out.
so for Pirates-
we don't present ourselves first to the normal entrance CM? or yes?

Thank you so much about the info for HM.. I didn't know it was that different! I'll probably ask for it to be slowed but we'll see how big I feel by then. Looking very much forward to riding these two classics and taking in al those smells. I haven't been back since 2015.
 

so for Pirates-
we don't present ourselves first to the normal entrance CM? or yes?

Thank you so much about the info for HM.. I didn't know it was that different! I'll probably ask for it to be slowed but we'll see how big I feel by then. Looking very much forward to riding these two classics and taking in al those smells. I haven't been back since 2015.
At Pirates, you can go to the main entrance area, but we usually just head to the exit door since we know that is where we will need to board from.
 
very thankful for the personal input I'm getting right now. Didn't even think about pushing it myself and maybe putting my backpack on it when my sciatica gets bad or I just need baby off my bladder. It is a concern missing out on classic lines like Pirates, Haunted Mansion (do I miss out on the pre-show if I'm in wheelchair?) so that's only my concern...
Awesome that there are places to park it if my and my hubby both need a break from it's extra eight especially the first two hours of park opening
At DLR, for PoC if you can walk thru some of the queue, they will give you a return time, and then when you come back they will put you into the main queue just before it enters the show building. There isn’t really much ‘pre-show’ at DLR… at the point that the queue goes inside, it’s roughly 5-10 minutes to the loading area. If you want to be in your chair right up until boarding, you’ll be directed to a wheelchair queue at the ride exit. They only allow one or two parties onto the exit platform at a time, so the wheelchair line can get pretty long. (FYI, the CM location to get return times is near the spiral wrought iron staircase next to/in front of the Royal Street Verandah quick service location. See picture)

For HM you will also not miss the pre show (stretching room). The CMs giving return times are almost always near the ride exit here too. They‘ll let you know whether they are sending you through the LL when you return, or if they’ll let you in via a merge point thru a side gate. In part, it will depend on whether you want to park your wheelchair in their little corral area, or want to park it with the strollers.

Realize that neither of these rides will give you a return time unless you are either in your wheelchair/scooter or have DAS, because the queues don’t have stairs, so they are only inaccessible because the queues are too narrow for wheelchairs through most or all of the length of it.

At Splash Mountain, you will ask at the exit whether they want you to go thru the regular line up to the point where they can direct you around the stairs, or whether they want to give a return time and have you enter thru the exit. For this ride, they will accommodate anyone who cannot do stairs, with or without a wheelchair, ECV or DAS. You *WILL* miss all of the pre show here. Unfortunately, if you need to avoid stairs, there’s no other option.

All of the Fantasyland rides, except for Carousel and IASW, will give you a return time— but once again, be aware that unless there are stairs in the queue (and I can’t think of any off hand) these attractions will not issue a return time unless you are either a DAS holder on using a wheelchair/ECV.

Sometimes, the Storybook Canals will just have you wait to the side near the exit, and then get you on a particular boat. Not sure what is so special about them, but it’s always the same 2 or 3 boats that they put us on— the Merryweather, Flower, and I think there’s one other… the Daisy, maybe? So often they’ll have you wait through a cycle or two, depending on line length, until that boat comes around and then they’ll take you thru the exit. Last year, they were taking people right away thru the exit onto the next appropriate boat. No idea why, but it’s hasn’t normally been done like that on most of our visits.

I haven’t been to DL since they started doing DAS in the app, but I think the CM’s at City Hall or at the Guest Experience umbrellas should be allowed to authorize a “wheelchair” DAS for any day where the guest is in DL. Seems like it wouldn’t be difficult to put a limitation on it so that it’s only valid in DL, and not at DCA… that way guests could manage their own return times in the app. It might be a little inconvenient to have to stop and have it ‘activated’ each day… but it would certainly be better than having to still go all the way to the attractions or blue umbrellas for every single attraction. I think it’s unfair to expect people who have mobility issues to have to run around to get return times, while those with other non-mobility-related disabilities are able to use the app. DLR is unique because so many queues are not accessible to any type of wheelchair (including stroller-sized) or ECV, as opposed to MK where comparatively few lines are not at all ADA compliant.

I really don’t think it would increase abuse much, if at all. There are still some people who rent a wheelchair thinking they’ll bypass the lines, because from their skewed perspective, they see guests showing up at a ride and seeming to be sent thru the exit, or being allowed to go thru the LL… But they don’t know that the guest did have a wait, and it was only after that, that they were given the alternate access. Those people aren’t going to care that they can get return times in the app— they were seeking to bypass the line altogether. They won’t be any happier just because they can tap a tile to get a return time.
 

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At DLR, for PoC if you can walk thru some of the queue, they will give you a return time, and then when you come back they will put you into the main queue just before it enters the show building. There isn’t really much ‘pre-show’ at DLR… at the point that the queue goes inside, it’s roughly 5-10 minutes to the loading area. If you want to be in your chair right up until boarding, you’ll be directed to a wheelchair queue at the ride exit. They only allow one or two parties onto the exit platform at a time, so the wheelchair line can get pretty long. (FYI, the CM location to get return times is near the spiral wrought iron staircase next to/in front of the Royal Street Verandah quick service location. See picture)

For HM you will also not miss the pre show (stretching room). The CMs giving return times are almost always near the ride exit here too. They‘ll let you know whether they are sending you through the LL when you return, or if they’ll let you in via a merge point thru a side gate. In part, it will depend on whether you want to park your wheelchair in their little corral area, or want to park it with the strollers.

Realize that neither of these rides will give you a return time unless you are either in your wheelchair/scooter or have DAS, because the queues don’t have stairs, so they are only inaccessible because the queues are too narrow for wheelchairs through most or all of the length of it.

At Splash Mountain, you will ask at the exit whether they want you to go thru the regular line up to the point where they can direct you around the stairs, or whether they want to give a return time and have you enter thru the exit. For this ride, they will accommodate anyone who cannot do stairs, with or without a wheelchair, ECV or DAS. You *WILL* miss all of the pre show here. Unfortunately, if you need to avoid stairs, there’s no other option.

All of the Fantasyland rides, except for Carousel and IASW, will give you a return time— but once again, be aware that unless there are stairs in the queue (and I can’t think of any off hand) these attractions will not issue a return time unless you are either a DAS holder on using a wheelchair/ECV.

Sometimes, the Storybook Canals will just have you wait to the side near the exit, and then get you on a particular boat. Not sure what is so special about them, but it’s always the same 2 or 3 boats that they put us on— the Merryweather, Flower, and I think there’s one other… the Daisy, maybe? So often they’ll have you wait through a cycle or two, depending on line length, until that boat comes around and then they’ll take you thru the exit. Last year, they were taking people right away thru the exit onto the next appropriate boat. No idea why, but it’s hasn’t normally been done like that on most of our visits.

I haven’t been to DL since they started doing DAS in the app, but I think the CM’s at City Hall or at the Guest Experience umbrellas should be allowed to authorize a “wheelchair” DAS for any day where the guest is in DL. Seems like it wouldn’t be difficult to put a limitation on it so that it’s only valid in DL, and not at DCA… that way guests could manage their own return times in the app. It might be a little inconvenient to have to stop and have it ‘activated’ each day… but it would certainly be better than having to still go all the way to the attractions or blue umbrellas for every single attraction. I think it’s unfair to expect people who have mobility issues to have to run around to get return times, while those with other non-mobility-related disabilities are able to use the app. DLR is unique because so many queues are not accessible to any type of wheelchair (including stroller-sized) or ECV, as opposed to MK where comparatively few lines are not at all ADA compliant.

I really don’t think it would increase abuse much, if at all. There are still some people who rent a wheelchair thinking they’ll bypass the lines, because from their skewed perspective, they see guests showing up at a ride and seeming to be sent thru the exit, or being allowed to go thru the LL… But they don’t know that the guest did have a wait, and it was only after that, that they were given the alternate access. Those people aren’t going to care that they can get return times in the app— they were seeking to bypass the line altogether. They won’t be any happier just because they can tap a tile to get a return time.
You cannot imagine how much I appreciated the details in this post to make the most out of our 2 day park trip. I love how you included a photo with writing and I've placed in my notes on the iphone where I have tips and an itinerary written out thanks to this thread!
I won't be doing some of the rides, like splash mountain due to pregnancy, but I'll likely send my husband as single rider for those that have those options as I take a break. I grew up as a disney kid, from way across DLR and just bit over seas, and I am so eager to set fot back into what made my childhood a dream.

I've only gone to wdw once in my life, I stayed at GKTW as a maw kid when I was 15. Disney world was very different from dlr and i loved my time there...it was different and special due to it being make a wish, but I'll make dlr my forever home.


I do understand now making those with mobility issues having to walk around to get them vs those with DAS...maybe Disney is still trying to figure out how to work the whole new das system?
I won't be applying for a DAS, with the wheelchair and use of Genie+, I'll make sure I'm not in line plus ride time more than 25-30 minutes so that my bladder isnt casing me pain because my pregnancies have always been like that...just painful with lots of swelling.
 












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