I spoke to Jerry Monaco..Kinda long

sweetascanbee

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I'm sure we all know who Jerry Monaco is, if by chance you don't he is the dad of the boy who was involved in the now infamous "Tigger Incident"

I was one of the people who wrote to him after the incident happened. I did not know him before. I was and still am on Tiggers side BUT I did not send him hate mail as so many people have done. I didnt write him love mail either but mostly expressed my opinion. I signed my name to the letter and since I am not hiding he was very easily able to track down my phone number. I didnt ask him how he got it but I assume the internet. When he first told me who he was I braced myself as I expected him to get nasty. To my surprise he did not. He told me of his respect for me because I had signed my letter. He has recieved hundreds of very nasty letters and phone messages from people who we not brave enough to sign their names. He told me the most horrific part of this is how people have attacked his children, not just Jerry Jr but the others as well. He read somewhere that someone said Tigger should have attacked and ripped apart his other children as well. :sad2:

We spoke for over an hour on his dime, He was unable to sway me to his side but he calmly debated the entire issue with me. I was greatful for the oportunity to debate with him. How often have you seen someone on TV and wanted to tell them what you thought?...I have actually gotten to do that.

In the end he is a father who loves his children, he tells me (Im paraphrasing)

- He truly believes Tigger attacked his son
-The handler did approach him following the incident and apologise, saying that He (Tigger) was not feeling well
-He realizes he came off badly on the news but feels he was only protecting his child. He went to the news because the wouldnt take a police report. Once he appeared on TV, they were willing to take a report.

He told me all he really wants is an apology from MF ( man in the costume)
I asked if that happens what will he do, he said it would all be over.
Then I asked what if it doesnt, he then said he would have to explore his options. No lawsuit has been filed.

He told me that it has been a nightmare and he never imagined how cruel the world would be, especially to his children. His son is being harrassed.
He told me that his son really is a good kid, never been in trouble, never been in a fight, gets good grades in school etc. He feels badly about the way people are making fun of the gloves etc We talked about how this was a good lesson about how people percieve us based on how we dress.

I thinks its awful people have been sending hate mail, saying horrible things and then not being brave enough to sign their names. Thats no better if not worse than the way he behaved on the news. If you have an opinion send mail, not hate mail.

I told him that I felt a lot of the anger from the world is based on his appearance on TV, he was spewing venom and did not appear to be a resonable man. I think the public in general based their opinon on that. I know I did. I reviewed the incident tape and the one with him on it and I felt he was over reacting. Which is why I wrote to him in the first place.

We debated our two views of the tape, I saw Tigger attempt to pull the boys arm off his back, resulting in an arm lock, he then had to turn and when doing do accidentally hit him with his "paws"
He saw Tigger get his son in a martial art arm lock and then turn and punch him. His response to the thought that tigger might now have known the boy was there....."of course he knew he was there, he had his arm around him."

He also feels tha Tigger admitted to it because he said it was in self defense, I argued that he said he turned in self defense, not that he "punched" him in self defense.

All in all I was glad to have the opportunity to debate this with him, the one question I realized I didnt ask after I hung up and was kicking my self for...
"If Tigger really did punch his son....why did he do it?" I think thats what a lot of us struggle with...no regular person hits someone for no reason.

He was nothing but polite to me.
He wants us to remember that we are not really talking about Tigger but a 31 yr old man that was inside this costume
I have been saying all along (and in my letter) lets give the boy the benefit of the doubt and maybe he accidenatlly pulled the costume resulting in the reaction from Tigger. I still think it was an accident. I don't believe it was Tiggers intention to hurt the boy. Jerry Monaco thinks differently

FYI

Becky
 
We Canadians are so proud of you Becky! You are one classy dame!:thumbsup2 . Whether we agree with Mr. Monaco or not you took the high road!
 
I am glad that you had the opportunity to talk with Jerry as it showed him that not all people are the same. Unfortunately you are one person out of thousands when it should be the other way around. It should be thoursands listening with a reasonable mind not hatred. I believe that people should have the conviction to sign a letter that they are willing to put their opinnion on. If you don't you are no more then a person who hides behind a mask.

So Thank you for taking the time to not only writing the letter but signing it too:goodvibes

Barb
 
Wow people really sent hate mail?? Please the guy is after money, I don't care what he say's. I don't believe Tigger attacked the kid for one minute, as per the video the whole world knows it.
 

Thanks so much for your post. If only the rest of the world could discuss things together rationally, I'm sure the world would be a very different place! It was very interesting to hear, thanks for sharing.
 
I don't think I could have been so kind to him as you were. He is basically causing somebody to be out of work for an incident that was brought on by his son. If all he really wants is an "I'm sorry", he wouldn't even be thinking about his other options.

Thanks for posting! :)
 
I'm glad you had the chance to speak with him. I do have to point out that there is soemone on these boards who lives in the same town as them and has an entirely different view on what they are like. They could be wrog- I have no idea. I think it was on the origianl thread about this. Either way- I still think Tigger is being wrongfully accused.
 
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Wow, I honestly give you a lot of credit for hearing him out and sharing your name. I will say that I think it's awful that his children (the little ones) are going to suffer from his stupidity though. I can't even imagine what the little ones are going to encounter down the road....this is definately going to stick. As far as the hate mail he is receiving...I can't even imagine what he's been getting and I absolutely do not agree with it.

I was reading on another website...can't remember which...some obvious kid saying Disney should create a ride called the "Tigger Slap" and the Monacos should be the first guest. I imagine things like this are the tip of the iceberg.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that his little boys are a product of their environment and Mr. Monaco has no one to blame but himself for their future treatment. He's lying to himself that his child was "hurt." But it's too late...people are mean and don't care. Unless they crawl under a rock, Jerry Monaco's actions have ruined his children.
 
I wanted to clarify that I am only reporting about our conversation. I listened to his side of the story and we debated on the facts and a lot of the stuff that has appeared on the internet.
I am not saying I agree with him, and he was not able to convince me that Tigger intentionaly punched his kid.

How ever I have to say that hate mail in NOT OK. I agree we should write letters when we feel things are not right but he is getting threats, and people are saying things such as Tigger should have beat up his other kids as well.
I know at least one person on this board said they hoped his kid gets picked on at school. Thats not right.

Becky
 
What you did was very brave and you were also kind to hear him out. I commend you on your patience and ability to hold it together and talk with him that long.

I still think he is a huge fraud and I also feel he is a liar. His actions on TV, father or not, spoke volumes about his character. The fact that he was so quick to contact the media also spoke volumes about his character.

I have posted this on another thread....my neighbor next door is a lawyer and has an office here in Texas and also in New York. He knows A LOT of people and works some major suits. According to him, Jerry Sr. is planning to sue for $4M and has every intention on suing if Disney does not settle out of court.

His damages: public humiliation (mind you he called the press and nobody was around to witness the incident), the years and years of saving it took him to be able to take his family to WDW (a max of 7K, maybe) and damages to his son. (A trip to the ER to make his story look good, that cost maybe $200).

Again, I think what you did was very nice and the restraint you showed was amazing...his story/side looks good on writing, but his character on television spoke a lot about him.


I don't think anybody will see your post as you defending him. ;)
 
His damages: public humiliation (mind you he called the press and npbody was around to witness the incident), the years and years of saving it took him to be able to take his family to WDW (a max of 7K, maybe) and damages to his son. (A trip to the ER to make his story look good, that cost maybe $200).

Um...last I checked Disney didn't release HIS PERSONAL VIDEO? What a moron.

Wonder what resort he stayed at???
 
As someone who struggle to navigate with total skill atrough the internet I have not seen the original film of the incident and also have not seen the Fathers interview. However I would like to comment on this thread. I applaud the OP actions in putting her name and address to the lettert she sent, I wonder when she got his address. I am glad she had a reasoned conversation with him.

I wonder if the incident had happend with an unknown mascot of a store whether it would have prompted the same level of support for the character as a Disney Character.

Also we often see support of the individual against a large organisation and would also naturally be drawn to support our children against such actions and so it seems a little counter-intuative to have so many people take against the youngster and his Father.
 
The address was actually in the police report which has been posted in several places. It had his name, address and phone number and the age of his son (14).
It may be that MF feels that he has nothing to apologize for if Jr. was doing something obnoxious to his costume. And since he could not see exactly where his face was, he was reaching back, not looking to hit him.
 
I wonder if the incident had happend with an unknown mascot of a store whether it would have prompted the same level of support for the character as a Disney Character.
Perhaps, if the information was made available via the media.
Also we often see support of the individual against a large organisation and would also naturally be drawn to support our children against such actions and so it seems a little counter-intuative to have so many people take against the youngster and his Father.
This unfounded "incident", which threatens an organization millions hold dear, is based on greed.
 
As someone who struggle to navigate with total skill atrough the internet I have not seen the original film of the incident and also have not seen the Fathers interview. However I would like to comment on this thread. I applaud the OP actions in putting her name and address to the lettert she sent, I wonder when she got his address. I am glad she had a reasoned conversation with him.

I wonder if the incident had happend with an unknown mascot of a store whether it would have prompted the same level of support for the character as a Disney Character.

Also we often see support of the individual against a large organisation and would also naturally be drawn to support our children against such actions and so it seems a little counter-intuative to have so many people take against the youngster and his Father.


The original police report was posted on the internet. It included his name, home address, work address, phone number and both him and Jr's Bdays.

I also thot that if this had happened with say the character mascot from a local appliance store this would not have gotten half as much media attention. Disney has such a huge and loyal fanbase that this was not a smart move on the part of this man to pursue this beyond going to guest relations. What did he expect?

I asked my 15 yr old mothers helper if she knew anything that had happened with Tigger(I did not mention anything beyond that) She said no, so I showed her the video(long version) I wanted to get the reaction from someone in JR's age group. I was also very careful how I worded any thing I asked her as not to sway her one way or the other. I simply asked her at the end "what do you think happened?" First words out of the girl's mouth, "that kid was doing something" Why do you say that? "he has a sneaky look on his face" (this is coming from a typical teen remember) I then asked her if Tigger hit him on purpose or maybe in defense. "no it just looks like he turned and accidently hit his face as he was reaching for his arm"

She wanted to watch the video again. After seeing it for the second time she said "his arm muscle was all tight like he was pulling on something" NOw I did not point this out to her nor tell her anything about it and a 15 yr old deduced this on her own. She is not a big Disney fan so this is coming from a pretty impartial party. She also told me on her own with no prompting "that kid is going to get picked on when he goes back to school, Tigger beat you up...HA HA"

Sorry so long but the point is if a teen who doesnt know this family realizes that the kids are going to get picked on, why wouldnt this man who is making such a fuss. I am sure that some of the ppl who wrote to him or are responding in person are going about it the wrong way, but for the father not to expect some backlash is either very naive or just very stupid on his part.

Kudos to the OP for being patient enuf to actually talk to him for that length of time. I do not think I would have been so patient and would have pretty much told him are you that dumb that ppl do not think you are in this for money. And the part about wanting an apology---please if you just wanted an apology you would have not gone to the media with it and would not want to pursue it further if you dont get said apology--you would just let it go an move on, not make your family's life miserable for years to come.
 
Perhaps people in this country would not be so "Sue Happy" if there was a loser pays all- legal system. This way, you would REALLY need to believe in your lawsuit BEFORE you filed one!!!
Let's face it, this man will get some money out of it- just to shut him up. And when they do, lets hope Disney actually places the money in a trust for the SON and not the father, and the SON is NOT able to get it until he turns 21.
This "incident" happened to the son right??
 
Would love to see them get just a $1.00 and be banned from WDW for life.
 
Becky - how utterly brave of you. And how utterly strong of you...not to go toe to toe with Mr. Monaco, but to listen to him objectively. From what I read of your post, you went into the conversation with a clear head, maybe even looking for a reason Tigger might have hit Jerry Jr. and still found none. I commend you wholeheartedly for signing your letter to the family. I am sure there are many people who did not. I, myself, thought of sending a letter but decided against it. I feel that the truth will rise to the top and all end soon so my words to the Monaco family will not change any actions they pursue.

Again, thank you for posting.

Dina Marie
 
Would love to see them get just a $1.00 and be banned from WDW for life.

No, I would LOVE to see him have to pay for Tigger's lost wages AND be banned from WDW for life...now that would be justice.

4 million dollars! That is outrageous!!!! :mad:
 

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