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I saw someone get denied a GAC

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momof3poohlovers

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We were at WDW over Thanksgiving and while obtaining a GAC for my son at Guest Services in DHS, a cm refused to give the girl (probably late teens) in front of me a GAC. She had a boot (like the kind you wear when you sprain your ankle) on her foot and told the cm that she needed a pass because she couldn't wait in line. The cm explained to her that she needed to rent a wheelchair if she couldn't wait in line. She then told the cm that she was by herself and had no one to push her. The cm then asked her how she planned to walk from ride to ride if she couldn't walk. ;) She told the girl "you should be more concerned about how you are going to walk from ride to ride than the small walk once you are in line." The girl didn't reply and stormed out. She didn't give us any problem giving us our GAC but I was honestly surprised that a cm would deny someone a GAC. She did make a point though. I did see the girl in a wheelchair later on in the day and she was with her family so she must have broken down and gotten a wheelchair.
 
I think that CM was absolutely right! If you can't walk the line, you certainly can't walk the park. Yes, many queues are very long, but not as long as the distances between things.
 
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We were at WDW over Thanksgiving and while obtaining a GAC for my son at Guest Services in DHS, a cm refused to give the girl (probably late teens) in front of me a GAC. She had a boot (like the kind you wear when you sprain your ankle) on her foot and told the cm that she needed a pass because she couldn't wait in line. The cm explained to her that she needed to rent a wheelchair if she couldn't wait in line. She then told the cm that she was by herself and had no one to push her. The cm then asked her how she planned to walk from ride to ride if she couldn't walk. She told the girl "you should be more concerned about how you are going to walk from ride to ride than the small walk once you are in line." The girl didn't reply and stormed out. She didn't give us any problem giving us our GAC but I was honestly surprised that a cm would deny someone a GAC. She did make a point though. I did see the girl in a wheelchair later on in the day and she was with her family so she must have broken down and gotten a wheelchair.

I have found GS at DHS to be very difficult to deal with at times in all honesty. When they replaced my GAC which has 2 stamps on it last trip, they messed it up and I didn't realize it until a few hours later. Yes, I know shame on me for not checking it before I left GS and trust me, I learned that lesson!! I went back and they were rather curt with me about it. I told them they needed to fix it and if they didn't believe me they could go dig my old one out of THEIR trash can that their CM threw it in.
In reality I wasn't too concerned because I had a photocopy back at the hotel and I never encounter problems at GS at MK. So I'd just get a new one there the next day but I don't like Rude CMs!!


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I have found GS at DHS to be very difficult to deal with at times in all honesty. When they replaced my GAC which has 2 stamps on it last trip, they messed it up and I didn't realize it until a few hours later. Yes, I know shame on me for not checking it before I left GS and trust me, I learned that lesson!! I went back and they were rather curt with me about it. I told them they needed to fix it and if they didn't believe me they could go dig my old one out of THEIR trash can that their CM threw it in.
In reality I wasn't too concerned because I had a photocopy back at the hotel and I never encounter problems at GS at MK. So I'd just get a new one there the next day but I don't like Rude CMs!!


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I want to make it clear that I did not find the cm rude at all. I also believe she did the right thing because she was correct, how was this girl supposed to "walk" around the park? I just found it interesting that the cm actually wouldn't give her one. I, for some reason, thought they weren't supposed to question it. I am glad they did in this instance as she was clearly able to get a wheelchair.
 

I don't think the CM should have given her the card. Good judgement call.
 
We were at WDW over Thanksgiving and while obtaining a GAC for my son at Guest Services in DHS, a cm refused to give the girl (probably late teens) in front of me a GAC. She had a boot (like the kind you wear when you sprain your ankle) on her foot and told the cm that she needed a pass because she couldn't wait in line. The cm explained to her that she needed to rent a wheelchair if she couldn't wait in line. She then told the cm that she was by herself and had no one to push her. The cm then asked her how she planned to walk from ride to ride if she couldn't walk. ;) She told the girl "you should be more concerned about how you are going to walk from ride to ride than the small walk once you are in line." The girl didn't reply and stormed out. She didn't give us any problem giving us our GAC but I was honestly surprised that a cm would deny someone a GAC. She did make a point though. I did see the girl in a wheelchair later on in the day and she was with her family so she must have broken down and gotten a wheelchair.

Ha! Good!
 
I believe that CM was very rude and I do not like the responses on this thread. Of course, it is a long walk between rides. However, there are benches and places to relax in between where the girl could have caught up. When you're in line, that's it. It could be standing for an hour or more!

Let me make it more comprehensible. If you get a GAC for son/daughter with some sort of autism spectrum disorder or sensory issues, wouldn't it be contradictory in itself? If the child could not handle the line, then the child could certainly not handle the park in itself. Of course, they could last for quite some time, but at some point there will be some sort of happening.

Sometimes, people plan their trips on a tight budget and cannot afford renting a wheelchair and thus depend on the GAC- say the GAC which allows you to use the wheelchair entrance although not using one. Would this not be fair?

I've seen some rude and ignorant comments on here regarding the GAC and its uses.

The girl shouldn't have been denied a GAC. Of course, situations like these are conflicting in nature and each case should be considered.
 
I think it is difficult for us to make any judgements at all from this distance. None of us were there (except the OP of course) and none of us know the whole story.

I, too, have seen people get denied a GAC because they did not want to rent a wheelchair or ECV, but also wanted to skip the lines.

I think, in general, it has largely to do with how things are worded when one speaks to a CM. If you say "I cannot wait in any lines because I cannot walk," that does beg the question of, "how will you get around at other times." CMs are on the lookout for people trying to use the GAC as a method to skip lines, and I frequently hear them explaining to people there is NO way to skip lines, and in more than one case when a person hears that, they simply walk away from GS. I have my assumptions about this situation, but I do not know the whole story.

It is impossible to equate one situation with another - a walking boot is not a wheelchair is not autism is not cancer, etc, etc, etc. We can debate all day who we think "needs" a GAC and who does not, but this is largely counterproductive and can too easily lead to nastiness. So before this all gets ugly, I think it is time to close this thread.
 
I believe that CM was very rude and I do not like the responses on this thread. Of course, it is a long walk between rides. However, there are benches and places to relax in between where the girl could have caught up. When you're in line, that's it. It could be standing for an hour or more!

Let me make it more comprehensible. If you get a GAC for son/daughter with some sort of autism spectrum disorder or sensory issues, wouldn't it be contradictory in itself? If the child could not handle the line, then the child could certainly not handle the park in itself. Of course, they could last for quite some time, but at some point there will be some sort of happening.

Sometimes, people plan their trips on a tight budget and cannot afford renting a wheelchair and thus depend on the GAC- say the GAC which allows you to use the wheelchair entrance although not using one. Would this not be fair?

I've seen some rude and ignorant comments on here regarding the GAC and its uses.

The girl shouldn't have been denied a GAC. Of course, situations like these are conflicting in nature and each case should be considered.
First - just because you do not agree with some of the previous posters does not make their comments rude or ignorant.

Second - the CM was giving WDW's policy. it could be said in a rude voice, but the original poster did not consider it rude, so I am assuming it was not said in that type of voice. But, as KPeveler noted, we were not there, so do not know.
I have also seen people who said they could not stand in line just leave when the CM started talking about wheelchairs.

This is written on the WDW park maps and website:
Stamina or Endurance Concerns
Some Guests may be concerned that they do not have the stamina to wait in our queues. We strongly suggest that these Guests consider using a wheelchair or electric convenience vehicle, as the distance between our attractions is much greater than the length of our queues.


ALL lines are at WDW are wheelchair accessible. In most cases, the regular line IS the wheelchair line. For those few lines with stairs or boarding at a moving walkway, a Guest Assistance Card could be issued to allow use of the wheelchair accessible boarding area.
GACs are for things the CMs can't see and would not know about otherwise. The young woman that the OP wrote about had a walking boot. WDW's policy is that guests with visible needs don't need a GAC to use the accessible boarding area because the Cast Member at the attraction can see what they need.

Most guests walk between 4 and 9 miles in a day at WDW. most of the walking is OUTSIDE of line, not in line. true, she could stop often and sit while getting from place to place, but if she would have trouble in lines, a wheelchair is still what she needs.
It sounds like you think a GAC shortens lines, but it says right on the card that it is not meant to shorten or eliminate waits. The card and park maps suggest that guest who want to shorten their wait should use Fastpasses - and the map explains how to use them.

The distance walked in line would be the same, whether the girl had a GAC or not - in most cases, guests with wheelchairs are using the same line as everyone else. So, a GAC to use the wheelchair entrances would really not help much for someone who is concerned about standing.

There are also times when using the wheelchair accessible boarding area means a longer wait. For example, last Spring, my husband waited in the accessible line at Small World with our daughter, who uses a wheelchair. I went in the regular line and waited 25 minutes LESS than they did. I waited 20 minutes - they were in line for nearly 45 minutes.
There are no seats in the accessible line, so anyone waiting there will need to stand unless they have a wheelchair or ECV.

And last, it turned out, it appears that the young woman was not telling the truth when she said she was alone, since the original poster saw her later with her family being pushed in a wheelchair. There are options besides renting a wheelchair if someone really was not able to afford one. Resorts do have them to loan out, although wheelchairs can't be reserved ahead of time.
 
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