I need a shoulder to cry on... (and maybe advice?)

I got as many packs of turkey cutlets as I knew I could fit into my freezer... unfortunatley, that was only about 3... that was the same day I bought all those bags of chicken too!

They didn't have cutlets, only wings, drumsticks, and thinghs, I think. We love the wings. I love the cutlets, which I have purchased at Walmart, before Dh got back in the service. We invested in a small chest freezer and that makes a huge difference in our budget, too, especially where Dh is concerned.
 
Well, I just read in the paper that Dunkin Donuts (store brand only) and Folgers as well as Millstone coffees will be going up 11% (owned by Smuckers). So it's just as well you stocked up. Now switch DH to a cheaper brand!
 
Please don't take this wrong way, since tone can be hard to read on a forum, but this is what I'm getting from you so far:

You want to pay $100 a week on groceries, fine.

It's suggested to not be quite so brand loyal, and you reply that there are many things you want to be brand loyal too, although you do say there are some other things you'd be willing to change, none of which seem to cost nearly as much as the things you won't change.

It's suggested to cut down on the splurge meals and I don't think we got much of a response of that so I'm guessing you may not want to (and who can blame you? Shrimp is delicious! :laughing:)

It's suggested you buy meat in sales cycles, you reply that it's important to you to buy $7 a pound grass-feed beef.

It's suggested that you combine coupons with sales, but apparently it's hard to find sales for the commissary and obviously trying to make up a menu as you go with a toddler in tow is an absolute pain, and leaving him at home isn't an option at the moment.

So exactly what kind of help are you looking for, is my question. It seems like you've systematically rejected every suggestion. Nobody is suggesting you live on ramen and hot dogs. I'm a grad student and my budget is as tight as anyone's (~$10,000 a year). I like to go the farmer's market and buy the good produce whenever I can get away from my lab, but organic meat is not in my budget. But I don't live on ramen and overprocessed food either (regardless of what movies will have you say).

I suppose my point is, perhaps examining the changes that you would have to make to have a grocery budget of $100 a week and noting that you do not want to use them based on your own reasons, maybe you should try cutting money somewhere else and try $125 or $150 a week for your grocery budget. It's just a fact of life that organic and brand names are expensive, and if that's important to you, then that's what you should budget more money for. :goodvibes
 
Well, I just read in the paper that Dunkin Donuts (store brand only) and Folgers as well as Millstone coffees will be going up 11% (owned by Smuckers). So it's just as well you stocked up. Now switch DH to a cheaper brand!

Right now I'm working on changing his deoderant and bodywash habit. I'll fight the coffee fight once a few others are won! It's also hard for me to deny him whatever kind of at-home coffee he wants since I have a daily chai latte with soy milk... But I figure I only spend about 87 cents on each one of my lattes at home for what would cost $4.00 at Starbucks. :-D
 

Please don't take this wrong way, since tone can be hard to read on a forum, but this is what I'm getting from you so far:

You want to pay $100 a week on groceries, fine.

It's suggested to not be quite so brand loyal, and you reply that there are many things you want to be brand loyal too, although you do say there are some other things you'd be willing to change, none of which seem to cost nearly as much as the things you won't change.

It's suggested to cut down on the splurge meals and I don't think we got much of a response of that so I'm guessing you may not want to (and who can blame you? Shrimp is delicious! :laughing:)

It's suggested you buy meat in sales cycles, you reply that it's important to you to buy $7 a pound grass-feed beef.

It's suggested that you combine coupons with sales, but apparently it's hard to find sales for the commissary and obviously trying to make up a menu as you go with a toddler in tow is an absolute pain, and leaving him at home isn't an option at the moment.

So exactly what kind of help are you looking for, is my question. It seems like you've systematically rejected every suggestion. Nobody is suggesting you live on ramen and hot dogs. I'm a grad student and my budget is as tight as anyone's (~$10,000 a year). I like to go the farmer's market and buy the good produce whenever I can get away from my lab, but organic meat is not in my budget. But I don't live on ramen and overprocessed food either (regardless of what movies will have you say).

I suppose my point is, perhaps examining the changes that you would have to make to have a grocery budget of $100 a week and noting that you do not want to use them based on your own reasons, maybe you should try cutting money somewhere else and try $125 or $150 a week for your grocery budget. It's just a fact of life that organic and brand names are expensive, and if that's important to you, then that's what you should budget more money for. :goodvibes

I wasn't offended in the least. :-) Brand loyalty - You're right. I will compromise on some things, but not all things. In most cases, the things I won't compromise on are because the brand I buy now is healthier, which is the whole point of eating... to provide nutrition.

I don't know why I haven't responded much to cutting back on splurge meals. I know that's actually part of what my goal needs to be. I just am in a learning process to figure out what my budget meals are. I've never paid much attention to how much a particular meal costs over others (though, of course I knew steaks or shrimp would cost more than frozen chicken or a meatless meal). Someone DID tell me to eat Ramen Noodles and hotdogs for my budget meals and I responded that I wouldn't be doing that. They may be cheap now, but cost can be counted in more than just money.

In the past our grocery budget was $125 and I was always under. I'm trying to keep it to $100 for a little while to save that extra $25/week for buying our beef. Right now, we're not getting organic or grassfed meats because it doesn't fit into our budget- I want to trim what I can from our budget so that I CAN afford it.
 
Here is another trick I started since my target now has an expanded grocery section (p-fresh). Doesn't really work for me at the grocery store, but does at Target. Look at the expiration dates on hamburg and chicken. All the same % packs of hamburg in the case will have the same date- go back the day before the sell by date and it they will have coupons on them. Yesterday the 1 lb packs of hamburg had $2 off coupons attached, and all the packs were sell by the next day. Got 5 packs of hamburg and a head of lettuce for $11. All but one pack went in the freezer. Plus I got 5% off with my Red Card. This is the time of year we do a lot of grilling so it will get used up fast!
 
I wish I had some advice for you! I always read these posts because I fine them interesting! What I need advice on is shopping in budget with 3 teens and a zillion of their friends over all the time...I am happy as long as I am at or under 800 a month! I shop almost only shop sales, use coupons when I can, and have tons in the pantry and freezer! Teens are the biggest food budget buster there is haha :lmao:
 
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Someone DID tell me to eat Ramen Noodles and hotdogs for my budget meals and I responded that I wouldn't be doing that. They may be cheap now, but cost can be counted in more than just money.

Hey, you can eat what you want ... the example was that maybe a $100 a week budget would not support shrimp and steak meals. It seems like you've asked for sympathy and suggestions, but don't really want to hear them. Many people have lived within their budgets and means, however, in most instances, sacrifices have been made. If your priorities are to eat "fine" foods, then you will either have to go in debt or find other ways to cut back.

Our family has chosen to keep our food budget low so that we can be mortgage-free, student loan-free (put two kids through college), take 3-4 vacations per year, etc.

So, yes, for our family this works. Our priorities are on other things than expensive cuts of meat, etc at our meals.
 
When I was a preteen and teenager, I wasn't allowed to eat. Not at all, none, nada, never. My friends mother who worked in a bakery snuck me bags of expired bagels and muffins when my father wasn't home. I ate in my closet only after he went to sleep. All of the food in my house was literally kept under lock and key. Even went as far as to count how many of something were left in a package and write the number on the package with a magic marker to ensure that I was NOT getting any food.


It's a horrible horrible story I know, however my point is.....soup is ok............soup is better than ok.

:hug: I'm so sorry, that must have been such a difficult environment to grow up in! :hug:
 
If you are new to budgeting your groceries, you've probably just underbudgeted yourself. Raise the budget if you can (and I assume you *can*, since you're new to this), perhaps by just a bit, and see how that goes.

I was lucky enough to have been tracking spending for a year before I did anything about it, so I could really see what we were spending. Our grocery budget is definitely higher than yours (we budget per *month*, though, as DH gets paid once a month, and that way a low week balances a high week and it's easier mentally), and we started with it even higher. After a couple months of lots of money left over, I plummeted the budget...whoa, that was too low, so i brought it up a little bit.





The things I am brand loyal to, I am loyal for a reason. There are some things that I value more than the monetary savings. Example: it is more important to me to buy toilet paper from recycled paper than to get my toilet paper for free. I would rather support the greener company than support the deforestation of trees. I'm a hippie at heart. :hippie:

I have the same feelings. If you have a Trader Joes near you, their recycled toilet paper might not be squishy soft, but it's not sandpaper either, and it's actually not that expensive.


I LOVE spending time with my DH, but he's like this too. I avoid the cookie aisle like the plague, but he always wanders down there... and comes back with cookies AND crackers! (neither of which were on my list) And then he wants ice cream too... and cake mix with icing... can you tell he has a sweet tooth?

I like shopping with DH, too.

To help tone down the cookie-munchies, go shopping after a nice, protein-filled meal. That works wonders for us. Craving sweets is generally a sign that the body really wants protein (found that out from a friend who saw a nutritionist regularly as part of her liver transplant program, and it absolutely works for us), and an empty tummy will put more treats into the basket than a full tummy.

You could also have a set-in-stone plan to MAKE cookies etc when you get home, or to make a cake from scratch (read those ingredients on the cake mix and icing!!! eek! the yellow cake recipe in Betty Crocker cookbook takes just a tiny bit more time than a mix, and that time is spent measuring the dry ingredients and that's IT) when you get home, where you are controlling the ingredients and putting even more love into your cooking. With a plan for treats, your hubby should be able to control himself a bit more.
 
Wow, the original poster seems a bit inflexible. I agree with many others who asked exactly what kind of help are you asking of the Dis boards?? I am a family of two, we eat what we want, and my hubby loves to cook. We do not eat shrimp and expensive hand raised grass feed beef, why, because that is a luxury! We eat well, but we do have our limits. I love a good bargain, use coupons at the commissary, and shop the discounted stuff at the German market. Today I stopped to buy a tomato and cucumber for salad, as I walked by the dairy area, I notice KerryGold butter reduced to .90 euro cents. I bought 4, as we do use butter in our house, I also picked up a yogurt for .20 and a pack of ham lunchmeat for .50, so these items will get used and I saved a few euros. I am brand loyal but not to food, I buy what we need and look for the best deal. I only drink one brand of coffee, and it is cheaper than any of that Folger, freeze dried before Noah built the ark! crap the commisary sells. So once again, maybe you need to take a critical look at your families spending habits and then decide if you can and will make budget cuts. I am sorry but I do not feel your pain!
 
Several comments:

First, like several others, I agree that you're not realistic in your budget vs. your must-haves. It's like saying, "I want to stick to McDonald's prices, but I expect to get Outback Steakhouse food." Yeah, you might manage it on occasion -- maybe the week that your boss gives you a restaurant gift card as a bonus, or the week that you happen to have a buy-one-get-one-free entree -- but you're not going to manage it on a regular basis.

I understand certain things on which you just won't compromise. For example, I only like Diet Coke -- Diet Pepsi can be free, and I won't carry it out of the store. I wouldn't buy Kraft Singles (which are all oil and not real cheese at all) or shredded cheese (do you know why that stuff doesn't behave like home-shredded cheese? The answer is disgusting) on a bet. But I'm also not trying to stick to $100/week. TRY the other brands, see if they're acceptable. If you find yourself REQUIRING more than maybe 5 specific brands, you might need to have a come-to-Jesus-meeting with yourself. If you have a whole bunch of must-haves, you're being too picky.

Next, I would've bought the coffee (well, if I drank coffee). It's a product that you're going to want next week and the next week and the next week, and it would've cost more later. But I would've done what you did -- I would've only bought two packages. I wouldn't have filled the shelf.

Now, my suggestions for lowering your grocery bill. Mine don't always match everyone else's:

The grocery store is an expensive place to buy food. You're paying for the convenience of having everything in one big store, having carts and bags ready for your convenience. Instead, search out other venues. You can find either cheaper food OR better quality for the same cost.

For example, I make a quick trip to the farmer's market almost every Saturday morning in spring, summer, and fall. We enjoy the fresh vegetables, and although the cost is only slightly lower, the quality is immensely better. Sometimes we get great deals: We're just finishing off the salsa I canned last summer, and the tomatoes for ALL those jars cost me $13 (that wasn't my total cost, of course: I also bought peppers, onions, and limes at the grocery store). I LOVE the fresh basil so much that this year I'm growing a pot-ful at home.

I buy all my spices at an expensive health food store (I don't buy much else there -- most of their stuff is sky-high!). It's bulk spices, so I measure out exactly how much I want, and the amount that'd be in one of those little jars that'd cost $4-5 at the grocery store costs about fifty cents. The store is quite far from my house, so I keep a list inside my cabinet and when I'm going to that area anyway I stop in and pick up what I need.

One of the best things I do to save money on groceries is to shop at a surplus store. They buy up overstocks, food with damaged packaging, etc. Meat is almost always $1.50/pound (it's mostly things like chicken patties that were bound for fast food restaurants, but I do find things like roasts on a regular basis too). French fries are always 10 lbs for $1. You never quite know what you're going to find, but I always find something. For example, not long ago I got a #10 can of black beans, which we enjoyed as black bean soup and in burritos.

Finally, I frequent a new butcher shop that's actually quite expensive, BUT they have great sales. For example, on Saturdays they have ground beef for $1.99/pound with any other purchase. So I'll buy a couple nice steaks and then stock up on the ground beef too.

Another example: We eat LOTS of peanut butter in our house. Walmart sells a HUGE container -- is it six pounds? -- for around $8.50 for Peter Pan. I can't buy the cheapest store brand for that price, and Peter Pan is one of the brands we like. I do transfer it over to a smaller container because it's easier to serve.

When you do find a good bargain, buy a reasonable amount and fill your freezer or shelves. You should start keeping a price book so you'll recognize the best price when you see it, and you'll start to develop a feel for how far apart sales are going to be. For example, if you learn that a certain store puts chicken on sale every six-weeks, you don't need to buy six-months worth. Once you can predict the sales, you'll know how to shop most efficiently.

In all likelihood, my super-savings places won't resemble what you can find -- but if you look around, you'll find SOMETHING near your area. It might be an ethnic food store or a fish market, but search out your options. Then, because you don't have all day long to shop for food, when you go to these places, stock up on the things they offer for a good price.

Next big tip: Slash your beverage budget. The typical family spends 30% of its food budget on drinks, most of which offer no nutrition, many of which are actually bad for the body. It's hard to justify bottled water, individual sodas or Gatorades, and alcohol when you're trying to stick to a budget. Water is free. Iced tea is almost free.

You mentioned homemade lattes are something like .85 instead of $4 Starbuck's versions. That's a rationalization. You don't need either one. So it's not saving $3.15 -- it's spending .85.

Seek out cheaper meals. You're spending lots on those splurge meals, and that's okay once in a while, but it sounds like you're going overboard on them. Perhaps you should make a rule that for every splurge meal you buy, you must buy a super-cheap meal. Being Southern, we love pinto beans and cornbread. A bag of dried beans costs $1 and will feed my family of four for TWO MEALS. Popcorn is a super-cheap snack. A cake mix (look for them buy-one-get-one-free and they'll be around .50) will make two dozen cupcakes; that's about the cheapest baked good you can have. It seems that most people these days reach for boneless, skinless chicken automatically. Look for chicken thighs; we love them, and they're about 1/3 the cost of breasts. Or, when you do want to cook breasts, slice them thinly instead of serving each person a whole one. Or, buy the large 2-lb bags instead of the little flat packages. Soup is essentially free; freeze your little-bit-of-this-little-bit-of-that in a ziplock, and then when your bag's full, you have soup -- add in a can of tomatoes, or some rice or barley.
 
Ok, so your parents never fed you anything ever? Who ate that labeled food?

Dawn

First of all, I took offense to that....not sure if you care. Second of all NO MY FATHER DID NOT FEED ME. HE ate the food, thought that was kind of obvious. Non perishables were kept in his room, in his closet, in a safe. All locked. My only meal was free school lunch which I had to enroll myself into without my fathers permission. I did not weigh more than 92 pounds until I was pregnant with my first child.

Maybe hard for you to understand, or believe....you're just gonna have to trust that a ttal stranger wouldn't say something like that only to feel bad about themselves. He was crazy......still is somewhere out in the world. Tryed to kill me the day before I was removed by the state of NH from his house at age 16.

I don't care if you believe me or not, just don't call me a liar.
 
First of all, I took offense to that....not sure if you care. Second of all NO MY FATHER DID NOT FEED ME. HE ate the food, thought that was kind of obvious. Non perishables were kept in his room, in his closet, in a safe. All locked. My only meal was free school lunch which I had to enroll myself into without my fathers permission. I did not weigh more than 92 pounds until I was pregnant with my first child.

Maybe hard for you to understand, or believe....you're just gonna have to trust that a ttal stranger wouldn't say something like that only to feel bad about themselves. He was crazy......still is somewhere out in the world. Tryed to kill me the day before I was removed by the state of NH from his house at age 16.

I don't care if you believe me or not, just don't call me a liar.
Wow. Your story is so sad. It's disturbing that anyone would do that to a child. You have my sympathies. I pray that somehow the child inside you can heal from the wounds he inflicted on you.
 
First of all, I took offense to that....not sure if you care. Second of all NO MY FATHER DID NOT FEED ME. HE ate the food, thought that was kind of obvious. Non perishables were kept in his room, in his closet, in a safe. All locked. My only meal was free school lunch which I had to enroll myself into without my fathers permission. I did not weigh more than 92 pounds until I was pregnant with my first child.

Maybe hard for you to understand, or believe....you're just gonna have to trust that a ttal stranger wouldn't say something like that only to feel bad about themselves. He was crazy......still is somewhere out in the world. Tryed to kill me the day before I was removed by the state of NH from his house at age 16.

I don't care if you believe me or not, just don't call me a liar.


That is absolutely horrendous. I wish you peace and healing.:hug:
 
I didn't have time to read this entire lengthy thread so I apologize of this was already mentioned.

I lived in a military community growing up (my dad was retired Navy). You are right about the sales 'ads'. They were nearly indecipherable. However, we only shopped at the Exchange for things like electronics, clothes and other non-food items. My mom always seemed to find that shopping off-base was cheaper when you factored in sales and couponing.

I can only imagine that the benefits of shopping off-base are greater now that there are websites that will match the sales ads to coupons that are available. For example, last night I used the information on Krazy Coupon Lady to save over 70% on the toiletry items I needed at Walgreens.

Just a thought. Good luck!!
 
When I was a preteen and teenager, I wasn't allowed to eat. Not at all, none, nada, never. My friends mother who worked in a bakery snuck me bags of expired bagels and muffins when my father wasn't home. I ate in my closet only after he went to sleep. All of the food in my house was literally kept under lock and key. Even went as far as to count how many of something were left in a package and write the number on the package with a magic marker to ensure that I was NOT getting any food.


It's a horrible horrible story I know, however my point is.....soup is ok............soup is better than ok.

For those who don't believe your story, I can definitely vouch for her story. My dad was a social worker for 37 years. Yes there are many stories of children who live like this daily. In a world where there is Disney Magic, there are also real life villans.

Congrats for moving past your horrible beginning and know that there are people in the world who hear you and validate the strength it took to move beyond your history.
 
I didn't have time to read this entire lengthy thread so I apologize of this was already mentioned.

I lived in a military community growing up (my dad was retired Navy). You are right about the sales 'ads'. They were nearly indecipherable. However, we only shopped at the Exchange for things like electronics, clothes and other non-food items. My mom always seemed to find that shopping off-base was cheaper when you factored in sales and couponing.

I can only imagine that the benefits of shopping off-base are greater now that there are websites that will match the sales ads to coupons that are available. For example, last night I used the information on Krazy Coupon Lady to save over 70% on the toiletry items I needed at Walgreens.

Just a thought. Good luck!!

That is still pretty much the case with The Exchange/AAFES, however I have not found that to be the case with the Commissary, they are run by 2 different entities. The prices at the Commissary are almost rock bottom, well they are at least at Ft. Bening, their prices can't beat any off-base prices (coupons or BOGO), that I have found. Everything and I mean everything I buy at the Commissary, if it isn't 50% less than Walmart (where I used to do the majority of my shopping), it is almost 50%.

The only other grocery stores we have in the area are Publix, Walmart, Winn Dixie (everyone of those are nasty and higher priced than Publix), and Piggly Wiggly. That is very few choices. I am a one stop shopper, I don't have time to bs with all that other price matching stuff. If I didn't work, maybe I would, but I do work and my time is valuable.

Suzanne
 
To the OP, you need to find someplace else to trim your budget or better yet look for ways to make more money. You want to be a "tree hugger" and say that your TP is saving the earth, but in reality you are doing one tiny thing right and all the rest wrong in saving the earth. You mention that sometimes you don't feel like cooking so you order in.

Did your delivery guy drive over or did he walk? His car is emitting fumes that are harming the environment.
Were your food items from a sustainable organic farm with only grass fed beef or a cage free chicken farm?
Were you items delivered in recycled cardboard containers or were they in styrofoam containers.


You also stand on your high and mighty healthy horse, but frankly grass fed steaks and shrimp while are better for you than the mass produced counterparts, you also need to learn to cook what is in season AND reasonably priced. Not all reasonably priced meals are ramen noodles and hot dogs. You need to learn to be more frugal and probably cut down on the amount of meat in general your family consumes if you are going to insist on such expensive meats. Meat should only be 4 to 6 ounces per person not a big slab at every meal. Learn to cook with the beans and other fresh veggies.

If you are unwilling to change ANY food habits then your only option is to earn more money. Perhaps you could babysit another child during the day since are already set up with all the toys and such for your own child. This alone could bring in several hundred dollars per month.
 














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