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Since @gottalovepluto planted the "Holidays at DL" seed, I convinced DH and DM to take a trip in December. DM's dealbreaker was having to walk any kind of distance to the parks because she lived in OC 40 years ago and is still worried about panhandlers. I don't want to be saddled to a shuttle service, so I needed to keep my search area very tight. We ended up booking a 2 room suite at Park Vue Inn, which is a motel, but a highly rated motel, directly across the street from the DL entrance. It's privately owned, so I couldn't book with UR, and DM wanted to use her CC for the deposit. So, I'm not getting points from either the front end or back end of this deal. But I am splitting the cost and getting two rooms in one so that DM's snoring won't wake us up, so I can't be too upset. It will be my first time at DL, and I'm super excited to see it decorated for the holidays!

I can buy my park tickets on CSR points through Chase Travel for a discount though (as long as they know not to book through Funjet) right @gottalovepluto?
 
I just want to say thanks for giving me your time and some stuff to think about. I guess my longer term goal would be being able to travel more for less money. I love taking Disney trips (and other ones, too) but they are becoming harder and harder to afford these days.

Keep in mind that there are people here who practice this hobby on all different levels. While I am sometimes in awe of the heavy churners, I don't think I could ever come close to accomplishing what they do. I am much more cautious and move much more slowly. But that is what works for me. Others move quickly and rack up the points at mega speed. I personally stick with just a few cards and while I could be working on a MSR year-round, I choose not to. If you want to venture into this a bit more, without opening many cards and paying high AF it can be done. If, once you get your feet wet, you are comfortable with more, there is a wealth of knowledge here.

I focus on earning Chase URs with the CSP ($95AF) and CF ($0AF).
I earn MR with just one Amex card - the Amex Everyday Card (0$ AF).
I also earn cash back with Discover IT.
I earned the CP for SW last year by opening both personal cards (can't do that anymore) and I have the Disney no fee card that I hardly ever use. I did close one of my SW cards after the AF hit, and will close the other one later this year with the AF hits and I get my bonus points.

I do plan to get more cards, but not until the end of this year or even early next year. I am not comfortable venturing into the world of getting business cards at this point and tend to gravitate towards no AF cards or low AF cards.

Even by being cautious, I earn enough points to book free flights (other than the 5.60 fee) for my family and plan to continue to do so.

I am not saying there is anything wrong with what others do. It is important to do what is right for you and your lifestyle.

Good to know it can be done in a slower, less stressful fashion. Can I be a total N00B and ask what CF is? And CP? I prefer no to low fee cards (other than the one AMEX).

Do you have a side business at all...dog sitting, selling clothes your kid outgrew, a real business, anything?

The CIP (chase ink preferred) is a great card. You would get 80k points for the bonus. Then the spouse could refer the other spouse for another 80k bonus plus 20k referral bonus.

Another option is the double-dip CSR/CSP. Those are personal cards and have to be app'd for all in one day. You could each get both.

A combo on the CSR with either/both of the other 2 cards is a great way to go. Eventually you'll want CFs too.
All of the above give you URs, which can be used to transfer to travel partners or book on the chase portal at an increased rate (discount).

What is the first goal you' like to accomplish, travel-wise?

ETA: there is a note in red inside the actual quote as well. have to expand to see it.

No side business really. Will look into CIP (thanks for spelling it out for me). Guessing the other 2 are Chase Sapphire? And can you let me know what CF is? Just when I think I know all the abbreviations on the DIS I find this thread. :rotfl:

Sounds like you have the Amex Platinum which is a great card for travel if you are looking to keep one card that’s not a bad choice.

If you want to “churn” and start applying for cards just for the bonus that’s where you really maximize rewards.

Also, if you and your DH live together, are over 21 and rely on that one income for support you can use your household income for both of you. My SO is the only one working now and I apply for cards using his income. Chase asked me where my salary was coming from and I explained that we live together and his checks get deposited into a joint account to pay our bills and it wasn’t a problem.


Also, my “business” was just getting started in November and I had $5 in revenue and got a business card.

Let us know if you decide if you want to join. If I was in your position and only wanted one card I’d be between the Amex Platinum, Chase Sapphire Reserve and the Citi Prestige. So I think your Amex is a good choice.

Thanks for the info - good to know I can still apply for cards if I decide I want to. Yeah, I want to keep the AMEX since it works well for us and we seem to rack up points there. I used points for our flights this summer - wish it would have paid for the cruise too! I guess the real question is whether it's worth it to open up one of the others on top of what the AMEX costs.
 
@disneymagicgirl, you were asking about the Sam's activation email I believe (sorry I'm behind!). They only send those when you order a Sam's Club gift card. You have to click through the email to activate them. I don't think that exists if you're ordering Disney or any other third party card. I'm still waiting for Sam's to activate my cards since I received them before they were showing as shipped on the Sam's site (so no activation email).

Also, a DP on Plastiq . . . my Ditech and Mr Cooper mortgage payments were just sent today! Phew. I was worried after other DP's. I have them scheduled, so I'm hoping that helps going forward. They did flag my Wells Fargo and Chase payments last month. Kinda surprises me that these two are continuing to slide through. I have a feeling the ax will come sooner rather than later.
 
We chose the Hyatt House since it's closer up Harbor and newer, but if HH Gold has a few perks in the name of a potential upgrade (though, @DaveL didn't seem to get as lucky as @Lain), free breakfast (we may or may not use, but Hyatt House has this so it puts them on an even playing field), and a short SB line for DH, this might be worth thinking about. I see the lowest cash rate being $124...:ssst:

Could possibly be the rate booked (partly govt/corp tho sometimes rack) and hotel chains. Stayed at a TON of Hampton's and Garden Inn's but always had the room that was booked.

So I take back what I said about never getting an upgrade but this prob does not count as it was not the gold status that did it, many years ago I was at NSWC in Port Hueneme CA on Valentines day and the lady at the front desk asked if I was really out there for work and I said yes so she upgraded me to a massive suite overhanging the ocean. Unfortunately I checked in pretty late and had a meeting the next morning super early.
 

Anyone else heard anything on this? Citi AA no longer offering 10% back on mile bookings according to this article https://theshortfinal.com/heads-up-...ard-no-longer-gives-10-redeemed-miles-rebate/ and what I’m seeing as the listed benefits online no longer lists the 10% back up to 10k. Barclays Aviator still lists it. Citi really snuck this in!

If true - that would be the final nail in the coffin for my Citi AA card. It has only survived this long with annual fee waivers.

ETA: Just checked my Citi AA benefits page - it is still listed as a benefit - so maybe this change is for new applications only.

Totally agree I won't be keeping this card if this change applies to existing accounts. I'm not sure I'm going to keep it anyway when my next AF hits unless I get a fee waiver or a really good retention offer. I opened it initially just for the bonus miles in hopes of upgrading my long flights to Patagonia last November, but no upgrades were available. I recently used most of my miles for a flight to WDW for an upcoming runDisney race weekend. I like the option for free bags, but I can't see my family traveling on American much, as opposed to Southwest, United and possibly Delta.
 
Ok, I'm freaking myself out now, can you folks that ordered Chase AU cards help me out?
I ordered an AU card for my CSP to get the bonus. Haven't ordered one from Chase for many years so none of it has been the same process. It arrived today, but came addressed to me and not the AU, is on the usual new card/replacement card mailer where it tells me to activate/verify it, and came with one of those metal card disposal envelopes. It does have the AU name listed on it, but otherwise it almost seems like a replacement card because I don't remember having to verify an AU card before. When I ordered it the Chase site said I'd be able to see the user in the portal after 24 hours but I have never seen anywhere on my account I can see one before so I have no idea where to check to make sure it's setup correctly.
I did just check the CVV and it is the same as the primary card, so I guess it worked correctly? If it was a real replacement card it'd have a different CVV, right? Do you think I'm good?
 
I think you probably have lifetime gold since you were gold for 10+ years so that is why it still shows you as gold.

Was curious so I looked it up, looks like I first earned Gold VIP on Jan 1, 2009 the statements before that were Silver. Guess I was not gold the first few years I was traveling. Maybe its less than 10yrs or I was grandfathered in on some older figure as my account is from 2005.

Edit: Google says there is not such thing as lifetime gold for Hilton. No clue then. I am not Diamond, came close once but the trip that would have put me over was canceled and surely would not hold it for 10yrs.
 
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Ok, I'm freaking myself out now, can you folks that ordered Chase AU cards help me out?
I ordered an AU card for my CSP to get the bonus. Haven't ordered one from Chase for many years so none of it has been the same process. It arrived today, but came addressed to me and not the AU, is on the usual new card/replacement card mailer where it tells me to activate/verify it, and came with one of those metal card disposal envelopes. It does have the AU name listed on it, but otherwise it almost seems like a replacement card because I don't remember having to verify an AU card before. When I ordered it the Chase site said I'd be able to see the user in the portal after 24 hours but I have never seen anywhere on my account I can see one before so I have no idea where to check to make sure it's setup correctly.
I did just check the CVV and it is the same as the primary card, so I guess it worked correctly? If it was a real replacement card it'd have a different CVV, right? Do you think I'm good?
I think they auto include one of those envelopes with every metal card mailed out. I think you're in good shape :)
 
I think they auto include one of those envelopes with every metal card mailed out. I think you're in good shape :)

D'oh, that's right! That would make sense, I just wasn't thinking about it for initial cards.
After the shredding experiment with the metal cards a couple months back, FF to the other week when we were cleaning out some old mail and I found the secure disposal mailer envelope for hubby's replacement Marriott card! We didn't get any when he got the initial cards but he had to replace both metal cards end of last year due to fraud so I had it stuck in my head they came with the replacement card to send the old card. Thanks!

ETA: Ok, I'm not totally losing it yet. I put the envelope in the folder with the new card paperwork and realized if you got it on initial cards I should have had envelopes for those too but nope. I checked new card letter and there's a subtle difference, on new cards the first step is create your account but on replacements its return the old card. So looks like they process AU's through the replacement program and just slap a different name a card. Good way to streamline the card issuance process and probably saves money, just not what's left of my sanity.
 
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Wow! Thanks for the warm welcome. I feel overwhelmed just thinking about all of this, TBH. I guess I'll have to ask a bunch and take baby steps and see how it goes. If my questions get annoying, just let me know.



Thanks so much. No new cards. DH locked up our credit after the big breach.

If you start applying for new credit cards, you'll have to lift these freezes if you want to be automatically approved, or someone from the issuer will probably call you to allow a pull of your credit report.

We are going to Europe this summer.

Cool, where?

I doubt he'd want me messing too much with our credit, but we're open to thinking about other cards. I know he's read the points guy and others online discuss which cards people think are the best.

There's a misconception that applying for credit cards will ruin your credit. As long as you pay off your credit cards every month and don't get over your budget chasing minimum spending requirements ("MSRs"), credit card churning could be a very lucrative hobby and even increase your credit score! Personally speaking, I've been at this for about a year and a half and my credit score has increased from an average range of about 805-815 to 830-845. The one exception is if you're seeking mortgage or a refinance, then you'll probably want to lay off new credit cards for anywhere from half a year to a year before.

So your husband reads The Points Guy ("TPG")! Think of him as kind of the poster boy of the brand of credit card churning that banks want. TPG shows you all the awesome things you can do and places you can go with credit card rewards -- and to be fair, he has some great guides and analyses, but he won't tell you all the tricks or loopholes, and he wants you to apply through his affiliate links that make his parent company money but don't always offer you the best signup deal.

What we do here is basically in the same lane, but we try always to be straight and honest about the best offers, tips and strategies to help each other towards their dream vacations.

Not willing to part with the AMEX at this point. We are getting a lot of use out the Centurion lounges, Uber deal, and no foreign transaction fee. I'm pretty sure that we will have that fee with our other cards. Our big expense for the trip is hotels, and I know they take AMEX.

Sounds like you have the Amex Platinum. No one's telling you to part with it. It's a good card with solid perks! But it totally sucks for every day spend. For most things, you're earning only 1 Membership Rewards ("MR") point per $1; and its 5x MR categories are so highly specific and restrictive! I love my Amex Platinum, but I have so many other cards in my wallet that offer me better rewards on my every day and category spending!

It does sound like your household puts quite a lot of spend on the Platinum -- how long have you had it and when does the card's annual fee ("AF") hit again? The next time the AF comes up on that card, I'm thinking you or your husband needs to call Amex and ask for a retention offer. Something along the lines of, "I see my AF just posted. I've enjoyed the card but I'm evaluating whether I should keep it or cancel it because there are so many other cards out there that offer better rewards on the money I've been putting on my Platinum. What kind of incentive can you offer me to keep this card another year?" Retention offers are specific to the card account and can depend on things like how many years you've had the card, how much you put on the card in the past year, whether you've used up the benefits, even the time of year and what their renewal numbers are looking like. I was offered 30,000 MR points in March to keep my Platinum open another year. Another member in this thread was offered 50,000 MRs last week to keep his Platinum for another year.

We have 3 of them on the same account so we are getting a decent amount of points on it, no business, and only one income (so I guess only one person who can really apply for them).

What do you mean you have "3 of them on the same account?" 3 different Amex cards on the one Membership Rewards account?

You'd be surprised what counts as a "business." Do you or your husband sell on eBay, Etsy, Craigslist, etc.? Consult, contract, babysit, pet sit, dog walk, teach or tutor, play in a band, bake and sell cookies, drive Lyft or Uber, anything that generates some side revenue? The reason we ask is because that qualifies you to apply for business credit cards that have some of the most lucrative signup bonuses. Another benefit of business cards is they tend not to report to your personal credit reports, so the cards and any balances on them don't show up on your credit report.

Another misconception is that you can't apply for credit cards if you personally have no income. That's just wrong. When applying for credit cards, you can use total household income. There are several full-time moms and dads in this thread who have been approved for multiple credit cards listing their job as "homemaker" or "parent" using household income. Don't be discouraged. It's best to have two spouses involved in this hobby (2-Player mode) because you two can double up on the bonuses, for example, Player 1 signs up for a credit card for the bonus, then refers Player 2 for the same credit card for another bonus, and gets a bonus for the referral; and stagger getting new credit cards between you two so neither of you present as too much of a risk to the credit card issuers.

Thanks so much! I'll try to keep up since I'll start to pick up the lingo and abbreviations that way. And yes, we often question our other cards. The AA one I only have because I have over 100k miles with AA and I'm not ready to let them just expire.

So I don't have an AA card, nor do I fly with AA. But all airlines cards that I'm aware of post all miles earned at the end of each monthly billing statement to your account with the airline (so your 100k miles are with AA), miles are not stored on the card or with the credit card issuer (not with Citi or Barclays). Do you receive any tangible benefits from your AA card? Are you paying a fee? Do those benefits outweigh the fee you pay? How old is the card? Because if you're not getting the fee's value in benefits for holding the AA card, you may want to think about canceling it (or downgrading it to a no-fee card if that's an option) -- unless it's a really old credit card that's adding to your Average Age of Accounts ("AAoA") factor in your credit score.
 
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I just want to say thanks for giving me your time and some stuff to think about. I guess my longer term goal would be being able to travel more for less money. I love taking Disney trips (and other ones, too) but they are becoming harder and harder to afford these days.



Good to know it can be done in a slower, less stressful fashion. Can I be a total N00B and ask what CF is? And CP? I prefer no to low fee cards (other than the one AMEX).



No side business really. Will look into CIP (thanks for spelling it out for me). Guessing the other 2 are Chase Sapphire? And can you let me know what CF is? Just when I think I know all the abbreviations on the DIS I find this thread. :rotfl:



Thanks for the info - good to know I can still apply for cards if I decide I want to. Yeah, I want to keep the AMEX since it works well for us and we seem to rack up points there. I used points for our flights this summer - wish it would have paid for the cruise too! I guess the real question is whether it's worth it to open up one of the others on top of what the AMEX costs.

CF is Chase Freedom. By itself it is not the best travel card. But paired with one of the Sapphire or business cards it's great. You can earn 5x points on rotating categories with the CF.
CP is the Southwest Companion Pass which is getting harder to earn. But I hope to keep earning it, alternating with DH every 2 years. Hoping the new SW card coming out soon has a high enough bonus to bring us close and then make up the rest with spend and using the shopping portal.
 
I get 24 vacation days, 13 sick/family care days, 7 holidays and 4 "season days" between Christmas and New Years. So all combined, it is like having 2 months off each year.

But DH, who works at the same University, doesn't have the same classification as me and so he only gets 12 vacation days (other things are the same). It can put a cramp on things, especially since he doesn't have much banked up. He started his job 1.5 years ago and took most of his vacation days and ended up spending all but one of his sick days for this year over the past few months when DD and I were having health issues. I couldn't imagine if he didn't have those 13 sick days. I feel blessed.

Very blessed! My boss decided to discontinue Sick days the year after I was diagnosed with MS. I was out months without pay.
 
I recently graduated and I'm waiting for an opening at my preferred district. I do love the flexibility of subbing, though. I am currently doing a long term for kindergarten did a long term last fall for 1st grade.
Good luck. Hope you find something soon.
 
If you start applying for new credit cards, you'll have to lift these freezes if you want to be automatically approved, or someone from the issuer will probably call you to allow a pull of your credit report.

So your husband reads The Points Guy ("TPG")! Think of him as kind of the poster boy of the brand of credit card churning that banks want. TPG shows you all the awesome things you can do and places you can go with credit card rewards -- and to be fair, he has some great guides and analyses, but he won't tell you all the tricks or loopholes, and he wants you to apply through his affiliate links that make his parent company money but don't always offer you the best signup deal.

What we do here is basically in the same lane, but we try always to be straight and honest about the best offers, tips and strategies to help each other towards their dream vacations.

It does sound like your household puts quite a lot of spend on the Platinum -- how long have you had it and when does the card's annual fee ("AF") hit again? The next time the AF comes up on that card, I'm thinking you or your husband needs to call Amex and ask for a retention offer. Something along the lines of, "I see my AF just posted. I've enjoyed the card but I'm evaluating whether I should keep it or cancel it because there are so many other cards out there that offer better rewards on the money I've been putting on my Platinum. What kind of incentive can you offer me to keep this card another year?" Retention offers are specific to the card account and can depend on things like how many years you've had the card, how much you put on the card in the past year, whether you've used up the benefits, even the time of year and what their renewal numbers are looking like. I was offered 30,000 MR points in March to keep my Platinum open another year. Another member in this thread was offered 50,000 MRs last week to keep his Platinum for another year.

So I don't have an AA card, nor do I fly with AA. But all airlines cards that I'm aware of post all miles earned at the end of each monthly billing statement to your account with the airline (so your 100k miles are with AA), miles are not stored on the card or with the credit card issuer (not with Citi or Barclays). Do you receive any tangible benefits from your AA card? Are you paying a fee? Do those benefits outweigh the fee you pay? How old is the card? Because if you're not getting the fee's value in benefits for holding the AA card, you may want to think about canceling it (or downgrading it to a no-fee card if that's an option) -- unless it's a really old credit card that's adding to your Average Age of Accounts ("AAoA") factor in your credit score.

Ok I'm going to try to answer your questions. I take TPG with a grain of salt since he's making money promoting cards. We've been using the AMEX for several years at least (can't remember exactly). Great advice about asking for MP when we renew. There are 3 of us and we each have an AMEX but it's all one account (billing, points, etc.) so the points tend to stack up nicely. No real consulting or selling income. I wish I had known more about this a few years ago when I was doing some consulting. As for the AA card, it's definitely an old account.

CF is Chase Freedom. By itself it is not the best travel card. But paired with one of the Sapphire or business cards it's great. You can earn 5x points on rotating categories with the CF.
CP is the Southwest Companion Pass which is getting harder to earn. But I hope to keep earning it, alternating with DH every 2 years. Hoping the new SW card coming out soon has a high enough bonus to bring us close and then make up the rest with spend and using the shopping portal.

Ah ok thanks. We don't fly much with SW since it's rare that we can find a direct flight from home to wherever we tend to travel to, but I do like them when it works out.
 
Since @gottalovepluto planted the "Holidays at DL" seed, I convinced DH and DM to take a trip in December. DM's dealbreaker was having to walk any kind of distance to the parks because she lived in OC 40 years ago and is still worried about panhandlers. I don't want to be saddled to a shuttle service, so I needed to keep my search area very tight. We ended up booking a 2 room suite at Park Vue Inn, which is a motel, but a highly rated motel, directly across the street from the DL entrance. It's privately owned, so I couldn't book with UR, and DM wanted to use her CC for the deposit. So, I'm not getting points from either the front end or back end of this deal. But I am splitting the cost and getting two rooms in one so that DM's snoring won't wake us up, so I can't be too upset. It will be my first time at DL, and I'm super excited to see it decorated for the holidays!

I can buy my park tickets on CSR points through Chase Travel for a discount though (as long as they know not to book through Funjet) right @gottalovepluto?
You should be able to! You could always call when you have some time and say you want to do a price check on how many URs it would be to buy the Disneyland ticket you are after direct from Disney just to make sure you're good to go.
 
Totally agree I won't be keeping this card if this change applies to existing accounts. I'm not sure I'm going to keep it anyway when my next AF hits unless I get a fee waiver or a really good retention offer. I opened it initially just for the bonus miles in hopes of upgrading my long flights to Patagonia last November, but no upgrades were available. I recently used most of my miles for a flight to WDW for an upcoming runDisney race weekend. I like the option for free bags, but I can't see my family traveling on American much, as opposed to Southwest, United and possibly Delta.
No intention of keeping this card and paying the AF personally, it just doesn't math out for me. (Especially because I'm over 5/24 for the foreseeable future so I have no qualms opening new AA cards.)
 
Totally agree I won't be keeping this card if this change applies to existing accounts. I'm not sure I'm going to keep it anyway when my next AF hits unless I get a fee waiver or a really good retention offer. I opened it initially just for the bonus miles in hopes of upgrading my long flights to Patagonia last November, but no upgrades were available. I recently used most of my miles for a flight to WDW for an upcoming runDisney race weekend. I like the option for free bags, but I can't see my family traveling on American much, as opposed to Southwest, United and possibly Delta.
@gottalovepluto @GZanta77 I'm getting ready to book a couple AA rewards flights in the next week or so. I'll let you know if I get the 10% back. I opened the Citi AAdvantage MC just a few months ago solely for the points. I don't think I've ever flown AA and don't intend to in the future, but needed a cheap and easy way to get us back from Madrid and AA happens to work perfectly this time around!

Also, if anyone is needing AA miles, they are running a special until 5/31/18...25% bonus on points transferred from hotel rewards programs. I transferred 20,000 SPG points and got 31,250 AA miles! As a reminder, if you transfer 20,000 SPG, you get an additional 5,000 bonus, and then AA added 25% of the 25,000. Not a bad deal!
 
Ok I'm going to try to answer your questions. I take TPG with a grain of salt since he's making money promoting cards. We've been using the AMEX for several years at least (can't remember exactly). Great advice about asking for MP when we renew. There are 3 of us and we each have an AMEX but it's all one account (billing, points, etc.) so the points tend to stack up nicely. No real consulting or selling income. I wish I had known more about this a few years ago when I was doing some consulting. As for the AA card, it's definitely an old account.



Ah ok thanks. We don't fly much with SW since it's rare that we can find a direct flight from home to wherever we tend to travel to, but I do like them when it works out.
Chase URs are flexible. When I first started researching cards a few years for travel I decided to start with the Chase Sapphire Preferred. I then got the Chase Freedom. (Already had the amex everyday since 1988.)
There are Chase cards with better sign up bonuses but they generally have higher AF or are business cards. I plan to eventually add the Chase Freedom Unlimited but there are other cards I want first and I also want to try to always have the CP so I don't know when I will get the CFU. It is also important for me to get to under 5/24 and stay there so I have to play this game slowly.
 
Calypso! I love that photo! Thanks so much for sharing. Could you please share how many points and how you used spg points to book this? Transfer to Singapore Airlines?

Thank you and you are welcome. This route almost never has saver award seats to be found for the suites. So, we booked standard award seats. The standard award is 250k per person, one way. SPG will give you a 5k bonus for every 20k you transfer. First we had to transfer the SPG points into one account, mine. They will cancel an award if the miles/points come from an account other than the one being used to book the flights.

Then from there, transfer to Kris Flyer. In order to maximize the the transfer bonus I transferred over 60k each day (max is 79,999 per day) which gave me 75k Kristi flyer miles for each transfer. All the transfers take days to complete. I had called SQ and asked if they would hold the award flights until all the miles were in our account and they did. Once the miles were in the account, I called back and they ticketed the award.

You would need 200k SPG points which would give you the 250k to book one person on the same flight. We also used some TYP that were about to expire too.
 
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