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Any reason for me NOT to apply for Chase Freedom Unlimited card? I have just started playing with hotel points. I dont want to pay an annual fee for any cards. I have a hilton amex, jetblue mc, and disney visa. Main spend is on jb for flights. We camp and dont spend more than a night or two a year in hotels, but that is changing as we age. I would like access to ultimate rewards without an annual fee. Thank you to anyone that replies!

My suggestion would be to apply for a Sapphire Preferred, if the annual fee is still waived the first year (it was last year; not sure about currently). After a year, you can product change to a Freedom.
 
Any reason for me NOT to apply for Chase Freedom Unlimited card? I have just started playing with hotel points. I dont want to pay an annual fee for any cards. I have a hilton amex, jetblue mc, and disney visa. Main spend is on jb for flights. We camp and dont spend more than a night or two a year in hotels, but that is changing as we age. I would like access to ultimate rewards without an annual fee. Thank you to anyone that replies!

There is no reason not to apply for it, just know it is not the best bang for your buck. If you really are against AF cards you could apply for the Chase Sapphire Preferred which waives the AF first year and then product change the card to the CFU after a year. It will be the difference in a $500+ sign up bonus and a $150 bonus. Just know that the freedom cards, while they will get you URs, will strictly be cash back by themselves. You need a premium card, with an AF, if you want access to transferring your URs to partners or booking via the UR portal for greater than 1 cpp.
 
Thank you both. I started posting here a million years ago but you move too fast for me! I understand the annual fee cards are much more lucrative than free cards, but i am not likely to travel much until retirement. I see that jetblue is a partner with csr though...Could i do what AmyAnne suggested and diwngrade nefore the annual fee?
 

Thank you both. I started posting here a million years ago but you move too fast for me! I understand the annual fee cards are much more lucrative than free cards, but i am not likely to travel much until retirement. I see that jetblue is a partner with csr though...Could i do what AmyAnne suggested and diwngrade nefore the annual fee?

You would wait until the AF posts to your account and then downgrade. If is within 30 days of posting it will be refunded. Also, you could transfer all your URs out before you downgrade and then just start earning cashback URs after that. Or, like the rest of us, you will become addicted, and have opened up many more cards by then. :smooth:
 
Any reason for me NOT to apply for Chase Freedom Unlimited card? I have just started playing with hotel points. I dont want to pay an annual fee for any cards. I have a hilton amex, jetblue mc, and disney visa. Main spend is on jb for flights. We camp and dont spend more than a night or two a year in hotels, but that is changing as we age. I would like access to ultimate rewards without an annual fee. Thank you to anyone that replies!

Yes. First, are you under 5/24? Because to be approved for almost any of Chase’s credit cards, you need to be under 5/24. Even so, don’t apply for the Chase Freedom Unlimited (“CFU”)!

Applying for the CFU directly will get you only a $150 (awarded as 15,000 Ultimate Rewards points) signup bonus after you spend $500 within 3 months of account opening. The CFU is also a “cash back” card, so while it earns cash back in the form of UR points, you won’t be able to transfer those points to Chase’s airline and hotel partners without one of their travel cards with an annual fee (the Chase Sapphire Preferred and Reserve, and the Chase Ink Preferred). If you want to redeem the UR points for travel through Chase’s travel portal, your points will be worth only 1 cent per point (vs. 1.25 cents per point on a CSP and CIP, or 1.5 cpp on a CSR).

If you can manage the minimum spending requirement (“MSR”), you should consider applying instead for the Chase Sapphire Preferred (“CSP”) card, which will get you 50,000 UR points (worth $500 if you cash out, or at least $625 when redeemed for travel on the CSP’s travel portal) after you spend $4,000 within 3 months. If this MSR amount seems pretty steep, think of things you might be able to prepay or timing your credit card application to a big upcoming expense.

The CSP does have a $95 annual fee, but that fee is waived to $0 in the first year. After one year has passed and the second year’s $95 fee posts to your credit card statement, you can call Chase to request a product change of the CSP to a CFU, getting a statement credit/refund of that $95 charge and getting the card you wanted in the first place but with a lot more bonus points.

Alternatively, if you are open to applying for Chase’s business cards, Chase has two business cards — the Chase Ink Cash (“CIC”) and Chase Ink Unlimited (“CIU” — which is effectively the same card as the consumer CFU) — that both have no annual fees, offers 50,000 UR signup bonuses after spending $3,000 in 3 months.

If you do decide to apply for the CSP and want to get more into earning free air and hotel travel through credit card rewards, I’d encourage you to sign up for our DISchurners group on Reddit, where we add a lot of helpful information and you can find links to apply that support your fellow DISers.
 
Any reason for me NOT to apply for Chase Freedom Unlimited card? I have just started playing with hotel points. I dont want to pay an annual fee for any cards. I have a hilton amex, jetblue mc, and disney visa. Main spend is on jb for flights. We camp and dont spend more than a night or two a year in hotels, but that is changing as we age. I would like access to ultimate rewards without an annual fee. Thank you to anyone that replies!

I'm sure there's several, but that doesn't mean it might not still be the best card for you :) It's all going to depend on why you want the Ultimate Rewards (UR) points. What's the driving factor to wanting those particular points? And ultimately, what's your overall goal for credit card rewards?

The Freedom cards (plain Freedom aka CF, and Freedom Unlimited, CFU) both earn UR points that can be redeemed for 1 cent per point - either as cash, a statement credit, or used through the Chase travel portal. You can also redeem them for gift cards and products for 1 cpp or less, but that's hardly ever as good value so I just ignore those for now. Both have no annual fee so when choosing one over the other you'd want to look into the earning potential of each. (Ideally you'd want both, but we'll hold off on that for now)

The CFU is an easy calculation as it gets 1.5% back on every purchase plus the sign up bonus. I'm seeing $150 (15,000 URs) back on $500 in spend, is the $200 bonus still floating around? I'm going to stick with $150 for apples to apples for now. I'm going to throw out a round number of 10k of annual spend planned for the card. That'd be $300 back in the first year, $150 for the sign up bonus and $150 in UR points from the spend.

The CF has the 5% rotating categories each quarter, up to $1,500 spent (max $75 back per quarter) and 1% back on everything else. It also has a $150 (15,000 UR) sign up bonus for $500 in spend. Assuming you can max out the categories every quarter, for the same 10k in spend, that'd be $490 - $150 for the sign up bonus, $300 for the category spend, and $40 for the remainder. I imagine you can't always max out every category (I rarely do) so I'll also make an assumption only 20% of that spend is at the 5% level. That still $330 - $150 bonus, $100 category spend, and $80 for the remainder - edging out the CFU by $30.

So what would be better than that is instead of putting the non category spend on the CF card you put that on the CFU card for the extra .5%, best of both worlds.

But, assuming you have the 10,000 in spend to put on these cards, if you are able to do higher amounts within 3 months you could be looking at even larger UR points. The Sapphire Preferred card does have an annual fee but it's waived the first year. After the first year you could product change it to one of the Freedom cards and still have no annual fee. For the $4,000 in spend within 3 months you'd get 50,000 UR points, the equivalent to $500 in cash. It earns 2x the points on dining and travel charges. It's not the greatest for ongoing spend unless you eat out a lot or have things that code as travel, but just the sign up bonus is usually worth getting this card. The Sapphire cards also allow you to transfer your UR points to travel partners, like hotels and airlines, and give you a greater redemption value through the Chase travel portal of 1.25 cpp. If you thought you'd like to use the UR points for either of these things, then it may make more sense to try for one of these cards even with the annual fee. Which is why I wondered what drew you to UR points versus another points system :)
 
AAAAARGGH - I've committed the cardinal sin......missed a payment on DWs CIP. :badpc::badpc:>:( Its only a day late - i thought I had everything set up before I went on vacation, but clearly missed one.

Anyone able to advise on likely impact of future chase personal card applications - I had the CSP or CSR lined up for DW in the near future. Do I need to wait a couple billing cycles before applying? longer?

So mad.....really need to get myself set up on mint or quicken or something. 30+ credit cards to manage is inviting the odd mishap here or there.
 
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AAAAARGGH - I've committed the cardinal sin......missed a payment on DWs CIP. :badpc::badpc:>:( Its only a day late - i thought I had everything set up before I went on vacation, but clearly missed one.

Anyone able to advise on likely impact of future chase personal card applications - I had the CSP or CSR lined up for DW in the near future. Do I need to wait a couple billing cycles before applying? longer?

So mad.....really need to get myself set up on mint or quicken or something. 30+ credit cards to manage is inviting the odd mishap here or there.
Why don’t you just use automatic payments?
 
For my kids private school, I found a lady that does a uniform exchange / sale for several different schools. I’ve never stepped in the official uniform store (3 kids there, total 5 years). Look on Facebook and ask around to see if you find something similar. The blazers are one of those things that barely makes it through half a year with how quickly they grow.
Good idea! I used to run the used uniform sale at a K-8 school my kids attended.
 
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