I Just Saw the most incredible PSA or "ad".

[Independent]

Probably the "glitterati" or whatever conspiracy theory you are subscribing to today. It must be hard to be you and awake every morning so cynical and pesimistic that you can only look for the latest "conspiracy plot" or dig for a glaring negative.

Oh, I wake up just fine and particularly happy these days.

But I think somebody needs the Lunesta Butterfly

 

[Free4Life11]

Its a reminder of why we went!

I never once heard that "saving the Kurds" was a main reason for going to war with Iraq. We went to supposedly protect our safety, not theirs.

Of course when no WMD's were found then the reasons starting changing to more humanitarian...then again we killed a lot of innocent Iraqui civilians so how humanitarian is that??

 

[DawnCt1]

It was a good commercial DawnCT. Remember, some people's perceptual screens will only let them see the ad a certain way. I perceive it as a true thank you. It leaves me with a good feeling. I hope my former students serving in Iraq right now get to see it.

Thanks, Laz, I hope they do too!

 

[gigglesnort]

I never once heard that "saving the Kurds" was a main reason for going to war with Iraq. We went to supposedly protect our safety, not theirs.

Of course when no WMD's were found then the reasons starting changing to more humanitarian...then again we killed a lot of innocent Iraqui civilians so how humanitarian is that??

And how.


(that means I'm agreeing )

 

[Papa Deuce]

shhh, shhh, this is what she wants....

Another alt screenie.

 

[DawnCt1]

I never once heard that "saving the Kurds" was a main reason for going to war with Iraq. We went to supposedly protect our safety, not theirs.

Of course when no WMD's were found then the reasons starting changing to more humanitarian...then again we killed a lot of innocent Iraqui civilians so how humanitarian is that??

The left always seems so concerned about "collateral damage", but do you ever recognize collateral benefit.

 

[gigglesnort]

Another alt screenie.

Please leave me alone Papa Deuce. I sufficiently answered your question in your thread.

I'm now interested in everyone's responses on this thread.

 

[Lil_Tink]

Are you guys kidding? There is this beautiful, poignant thank you from an entire ethnic group of people who saw thousands of their country men, women and children gassed by Saddam and they are sending a heartfelt Thank you to the United States and you are thinking about Geico and meatloaf???

Lol. Looks like it. Of course, I do love the Geico commercials. But that is so sweet.

 

[Free4Life11]

The left always seems so concerned about "collateral damage", but do you ever recognize collateral benefit.

First off, I am not a member of "the left" or "the right" or any political grouping. I'm not sure how my view on ONE issue all of a sudden defines where my political views are. My thoughtss and beliefs on issues don't really fit any single political party and they change frequently the more I learn and the more I grow up. I do not box myself into the left or right.

Second, why SHOULDN'T we be concerned about collateral damage? Freedom is pointless IF YOUR DEAD! I do recognize benefits. I also recognize the costs. And in my opinion the costs ($300B+, 2000+ US service men/women, countless citizens, Iraq's brightest and most affluent fleeing the country, citizens fearful of suicide bombing, etc.) FAR outweigh the benefits

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I got teary eyed (and I was a teen) when I went to a Welcome home concert for the troops back in the 90s. I just love when Lee Greenwood sings God Bless the USA. And it was pretty cool to be sitting in the seats among the military.

 

[bubie2.5]

The commercial is supposed to be from de kurds, thanking us for liberating them from Saddam... and his chemical weapons... how ironic.

Fallujah: The Pentagon's War Atrocities & Massacre
by RAINEWS

"I saw the burned bodies of women and children. The phosophorous explodes and forms a plume. Who ever is within a 150 metre radius has no hope," the former soldier adds.

"A rain of fire came down on the city, and people targeted by the different coloured substances began to burn. We found people dead, with strange injuries, with their clothes intact," a biologist from Fallujah, Mohamad Tareq al-Deraji tells Ranucci.

The evidence in 'Fallujah - The Hidden Massacre' claims to show the US forces did not use phosphorous in the legitimate way - to highlight enemy positions - but dropped the substance indiscriminately on the city, and on a massive scale.

The documentary also shows the terrible damage wrought by the US bombardment of Fallujah, and the carnage to civilians, some of whom lay sleeping.

Equally disturbingly, a document in the report claims to prove that the U.S. forces have used the MK77 form of Napalm - the chemical used with devastating effect on civilians during the Vietnam war - on civilians in Iraq.

"I had gathered testimonials on the use of phosphorous and Napalm in Iraq from several refugees from Fallujah, and wanted to tell the world about it, but my kidnappers would not allow me to," said Italian journalist Giuliana Sgrena, held hostage in Iraq earlier this year, during the documentary.

The use of white phosophorous and Napalm is prohibited by UN conventions. Moroever, the United States signed up to the Chemical Weapons Convention in 1997.

 

[bubie2.5]

IA 1, CT 0

You owe me a keyboard.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

You owe me a keyboard.

Tsk Tsk Tsk....

Friends don't let friends drink and DIS.

 

[Laura]

First off, I am not a member of "the left" or "the right" or any political grouping. I'm not sure how my view on ONE issue all of a sudden defines where my political views are. My thoughtss and beliefs on issues don't really fit any single political party and they change frequently the more I learn and the more I grow up. I do not box myself into the left or right.

Second, why SHOULDN'T we be concerned about collateral damage? Freedom is pointless IF YOUR DEAD! I do recognize benefits. I also recognize the costs. And in my opinion the costs ($300B+, 2000+ US service men/women, countless citizens, Iraq's brightest and most affluent fleeing the country, citizens fearful of suicide bombing, etc.) FAR outweigh the benefits

That was very well said. I know you say that you're not "left" or "right", but I did want to point out to Dawn that many on the "right" have not been supporting this administration's war in Iraq for quite a little while now.

 

[bubie2.5]

Tsk Tsk Tsk....

Friends don't let friends drink and DIS.

You're killing me.

 

[minniecarousel]

This was on Faux News? ....then - unless they show it on another station, I'll never see it myself.

 

[DawnCt1]

The commercial is supposed to be from de kurds, thanking us for liberating them from Saddam... and his chemical weapons... how ironic.

The source for this was indeed questionable. Furthermore white phosphorus is not even a chemical weapon but an incendiary bomb that is used to create fire. Falugia was a terrorist strong hold and women and children were ordered to leave. Those left behind knew that an attack on Falugia would soon be coming.
The only white phosphorus used in Falugia was star burst.

 

[Laura]

You owe me a keyboard.

Sorry.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Dawn--was this an ad, or was this part of a story?

I am only asking--b/c you mentioned earlier about the Kurds getting to see this commerical/PSA.

 

[DawnCt1]

That was very well said. I know you say that you're not "left" or "right", but I did want to point out to Dawn that many on the "right" have not been supporting this administration's war in Iraq for quite a little while now.

So what is YOUR solution? Would you like to surrender and turn it over to the terrorists? Sounds like the Kerry plan.