I have a question for the moderators

[denisem]

I don't understand the "need" to call people on anything. Color me confused I guess.........

You're right; only if asked beforehand or confided in, I offer my experience (if relevant) and generally let people make their own mistakes. But a person who has filed BK subsequently offering credit advice opens themselves to be "called" on their expertise in that area.

 

[darlak]

I have questions too, but since I already have points, I'm afraid I'll get

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Me too. If I ask anything, someone will probably come along and accuse me of a "major personal attack".

I am learning to avoid a particular pot-stirrer, but it's frustrating that they are allowed to continue to berate so many others.

 

[MushyMushy]

Yeah, I concur that's an extreme example. But go back & look at my records on the DIS: I've NEVER been disrespectful and anything less than helpful when I can add something positive to a discussion. Doesn't mean I haven't READ here. A LOT. And held my tongue, when there are people posting personal information that NEED to be called on it.

Why does anybody "need" to be called on anything? I think far too many people dig and twist and do their best to discredit other people when all they know is a blip in that person's life. It's far too easy to take things out of context.

 

[Christine]

I don't understand the "need" to call people on anything. Color me confused I guess.........

In general, true, there's no reason or need to call people out on anything. But, when you're on the budget board and people are looking for advice on how to get out of debt and a long-time poster that everyone knows comes on and gives some Pollyanna story about waltzing out of debt, then it irks people. Especially when they know the true means in which the person got out of debt. It is hypocritical and it is a lie.

If that person regrets posting about her bankruptcy and lavish/foolish financial choices then that person needs not come back to threads such as those and post dishonest information. If they were truly sorry and worried about what they said in the past, then they need to keep a low profile on such threads. To me, what it sounds like that poster did was try to stir the pot, really.

 

[MushyMushy]

In general, true, there's no reason or need to call people out on anything. But, when you're on the budget board and people are looking for advice on how to get out of debt and a long-time poster that everyone knows comes on and gives some Pollyanna story about waltzing out of debt, then it irks people. Especially when they know the true means in which the person got out of debt. It is hypocritical and it is a lie.

If that person regrets posting about her bankruptcy and lavish/foolish financial choices then that person needs not come back to threads such as those and post dishonest information. If they were truly sorry and worried about what they said in the past, then they need to keep a low profile on such threads. To me, what it sounds like that poster did was try to stir the pot, really.

I asked the same question as DisMN -- I didn't realize someone was passing him/herself off as an expert (don't know the back story apparently). I can see then, why people might want to question it when they do know the whole story.

But I still stand by my general statement.

 

[Christine]

I asked the same question as DisMN -- I didn't realize someone was passing him/herself off as an expert (don't know the back story apparently). I can see then, why people might want to question it when they do know the whole story.

But I still stand by my general statement.

MushyMushy,

In general, I do agree with you. I keep my mouth shut a LOT around here. No need to humiliate someone. But as you know, people around here really do "get to know each other" and know all the histories. They might spend a long time "listening to" or "helping" another poster with their problems. I think that was the case here in that this particular poster had a history that was well known and then kind of came back to with a "new" story. For the people who have read the saga over the years, I think it was confusing. And then to mislead someone who might be in the same situation as you once were and act like it was a piece of cake to walk out of financial ruin is just doing a disservice.

 

[froglady]

I sort of understand why people might call someone out.

I posted about budgeting and paying my credit cards off every month. Now, if I had previously posted that, say, my parents paid them for me, I would expect to be called on it.

 

[The Mayor]

The best way to get an answer is to send an email to admin@wdwinfo.com or pm one of the webmasters for an answer. I would imagine that the original poster would be doing this and not someone who just read the thread.

Good luck with that...I sent an email to that address two weeks ago and did not get a reply...then three days ago I sent a PM to THREE Webmasters and still have not recieved a reply and they weren't tough questions...just gets me to thinking

 

[mchames]

MushyMushy,

In general, I do agree with you. I keep my mouth shut a LOT around here. No need to humiliate someone. But as you know, people around here really do "get to know each other" and know all the histories. They might spend a long time "listening to" or "helping" another poster with their problems. I think that was the case here in that this particular poster had a history that was well known and then kind of came back to with a "new" story. For the people who have read the saga over the years, I think it was confusing. And then to mislead someone who might be in the same situation as you once were and act like it was a piece of cake to walk out of financial ruin is just doing a disservice.

As you can see, I've been around here for a very long time with a very low post count. I hit the BACK button a whole lot more often than the POST REPLY button But here goes (hopefully I won't regret this ):

There are posters who seem to garner an incredibly high post count in an extremely short period of time by posting personal information about themselves ad nauseum. They're really hard to miss. We've seen everything from "financial situations", to "problems with the ex" to "food stealing parents" for pete's sake. Let's face it, if you put the information out there, you should expect people to comment on it. If suddenly, your story changes drastically you should expect to be called on it and if that means someone bringing up something you said in a previous post than so be it. Editing last month's post to fit this week's version of events just isn't going to cut it.

Real life isn't a soap opera. You can't rewrite history (GH anyone? ) and expect people not to notice just because it fits your current story line better.

Mary

 

[disney4us2002]

Generally I think calling people out is just mean. Plain and simple. Of course there are people that lie and exaggerate online perhaps to make themselves feel better - to each their own I think.

Sometimes we think we remember something about a poster but then find we've confused posters. I know I personally confused wvrevy and wvjules and clearly one is male and one is female. Not long ago there was an apology posted because a poster confused two "angel" posters. It happens.

 

[creativeamanda]

Yet again, I'm out of the loop and confused. Why is this being asked on the CB when the incident occured on the Budget Board?

 

[Mr Man]

All of this "editing" by the moderators here (for subjective reasons that are never really explained-beyond some bland "protect us from ourselves" theme) is the main reason I don't post here much anymore. I suspect this is true for many others.

I do not think we should be treated like children.

 

[JR6ooo4]

Maybe not so much of "calling out" an individual, more along the lines of pointing out that persons qualifications or previous experience on the subject.

Like the person advocating the stealing of music, in a thread. Actually there were many suggesting just that to the OP.... One even suggested to go to the teen board to learn how to do it!!!!!!!


Mikeeee

 

[mumom95]

Yet again, I'm out of the loop and confused. Why is this being asked on the CB when the incident occured on the Budget Board?

I asked it on the CB because the question was more of a general question (that did arise from something that happened on the budget board), are we allowed to quote things from one thread into another. And I know WebmaterAlex is on the CB board (maybe on the Budget Board also, I don't know).

It really wasn't a budget related question, it was a DIS rules related question.

 

[darlak]

In life, both real and online, there are usually consequences for everything we do. Frankly, I don’t understand the mentality that just because it’s the internet, anyone should be able to behave in a manner that we wouldn’t find acceptable IRL.

The Dis becomes something of a community for most of us, albeit sometimes a strange and somewhat dysfunctional community.

I’m not familiar with the thread being referenced here, but there have been people here in the past who not only filed bankruptcy, but posted here about how they charged a $10,000 or more trip to WDW right before they filed, but after they knew they were going to. Certainly they have the right to come here and post that they did that. What kind of community would this be though, if we didn’t also have the right to say that we, as taxpayers, resent paying for a more lavish WDW vacation for them than most of us are able to afford for our own families?

Other posters have become downright prolific at pot-stirring. They daily post such inflammatory remarks that it is akin to attempting to incite an online riot.

I support the posting rights of both types of the above referenced posters, but what kind of online community have we become if we no longer have the right to post our own, differing, opinions of their actions or statements? That “report post” option has now become the first line of defense for some posters, who use it whenever anyone dares to disagree with them.

 

[mumom95]

NOW I GET IT

She's debt free because she declared bankruptcy. I just assumed since she posted on the thread she had gotten it paid off without filing for bankruptcy.

It all makes a little more sense now. But, boy, does it show my stupidity. Please feel free to reference this if I ever post on a thread about high IQ, because clearly I should not be giving my input on those threads

 

[kaseyC]

NOW I GET IT

She's debt free because she declared bankruptcy. I just assumed since she posted on the thread she had gotten it paid off without filing for bankruptcy.

It all makes a little more sense now. But, boy, does it show my stupidity. Please feel free to reference this if I ever post on a thread about high IQ, because clearly I should not be giving my input on those threads

Yes, that is correct. That's why it seems a bit cold to post on a debt free thread where others are working their butts off to repay their debts while she had hers quickly dissolved by BK.

It's a shame that things have gotten to the point on the Dis that one cannot comment on previous posts any longer. It seems now it is automatically seen as a personal attack.

Once again I ask, what is the point of the Quote and Search feature if it is now a big "no no" to reference past responses.

 

[alldiz]

I don't understand the "need" to call people on anything. Color me confused I guess.........

I didn't read the original thread and don't know any of the parties involved.
Don't go around playing detective either but......if I happened to notice a post where I thought the OP is full of "it"....I don't see why this can't be pointed out so everyone can take what they say with a "grain of salt"
Again I really am talking in generalities.
Kerri

 

[dis ms.]

Generally I think calling people out is just mean. Plain and simple. Of course there are people that lie and exaggerate online perhaps to make themselves feel better - to each their own I think.

Sometimes we think we remember something about a poster but then find we've confused posters. I know I personally confused wvrevy and wvjules and clearly one is male and one is female. Not long ago there was an apology posted because a poster confused two "angel" posters. It happens.

I was the one who posted the apology to one poster with Angel in her name. Just to clarify: I didn't confuse the posters. I knew very well which infamous poster I was responding to, plus she was the OP of the thread. But both "Angels" had posted something similar on that thread, and I accidently quoted one's post instead of the other's in my reply. In addition to my public apology, I PM'd an apology to the poster whom I inadvertently quoted.

 

[Mkrop]

As you can see, I've been around here for a very long time with a very low post count. I hit the BACK button a whole lot more often than the POST REPLY button But here goes (hopefully I won't regret this ):

There are posters who seem to garner an incredibly high post count in an extremely short period of time by posting personal information about themselves ad nauseum. They're really hard to miss. We've seen everything from "financial situations", to "problems with the ex" to "food stealing parents" for pete's sake. Let's face it, if you put the information out there, you should expect people to comment on it. If suddenly, your story changes drastically you should expect to be called on it and if that means someone bringing up something you said in a previous post than so be it. Editing last month's post to fit this week's version of events just isn't going to cut it.
Real life isn't a soap opera. You can't rewrite history (GH anyone? ) and expect people not to notice just because it fits your current story line better.

Mary

My sentiments exactly