I have a Question. Does Disney or TTS sell our info?

[drakethib]

Today in the mail I recievd a letter from RII Stroman (a Timeshare Brokerage) which basically stated on the letter "We want to buy you DVC for cash".

Does Disney or TTS sell our info?

I am just wondering how in the heck they got our info just as it is listed on our deed.

Kind of irks me.

Thanks

 

[smiley]

Well all I can say is that I bought my DVC points through Disney in 1993 and have never received any solicitation like the one you're talking about.

 

[Dean]

I know DVC doesn't and doubt any of the reputable brokers do. But remember that the deeds are public records and available online.

 

[cruise-o-matic]

They may track recorded Deeds for their solicitations. We still get letters referring to our original mortgage even though we re-fi'd two years ago.

 

[dianeschlicht]

If you purchased a resale, the transfer papers are public record, just like when you buy a house. That is often how folks get this kind of information.

 

[bobbiwoz]

We've recently bought a resale at VWL, and have recently begun to get these offers as well. We didn't get them after doing the VB resale last year.

Bobbi

 

[Caskbill]

We get those letters from Stroman all the time, maybe 3 or 4 a year. Been getting them for years. We just pitch 'em.

 

[CarolA]

I think they monitor the public filings. I get them every now and them... Directly to the trash. If I was going to sell probably would not use them.

 

[JimMIA]

I'd be pretty surprised if Disney or any reputable broker sold info, but you can buy just about anything in the public record from various suppliers...including the counties themselves.

My personal faves are the junk mailers who enclose a self-addressed prepaid return envelope. I fill it with as much other junk mail as I can fit and mail it back to them. That costs them money, and they have no idea where it came from!

 

[tjkraz]

And, since I haven't seen it posted lately, follow this link to look-up your own deed on-line:

http://compt-web.occompt.com/wb_or1/or_sch_1.asp

 

[dianeschlicht]

I'd be pretty surprised if Disney or any reputable broker sold info, but you can buy just about anything in the public record from various suppliers...including the counties themselves.

My personal faves are the junk mailers who enclose a self-addressed prepaid return envelope. I fill it with as much other junk mail as I can fit and mail it back to them. That costs them money, and they have no idea where it came from!

LOL, I'm glad to hear someone else besides me does that! I'd fill it with rocks if I could!

 

[Cyndy]

For several years I let my younger kids tear them into confetti and then we would put them into the return envelope and mail them back...this is true only of solicitations w/ prepaid postage. That was fun for the kids and I chuckled as I dropped them into the mail box. But now I've grown up and so have the kids and we all have used the organization that stops junk mail....can't think of it now, but I fill out the forms every few years, now on line and it really reduces the junk mail.

 

[CharlesTD]

I would venture to guess it was TTS as we bought all our contracts from Disney directly and have never recieved one solicitation from any other timeshare company. Not to say TTS does this intentionally but it could happen once you are on their list.

 

[RobDoc]

I would venture to guess it was TTS as we bought all our contracts from Disney directly and have never recieved one solicitation from any other timeshare company. Not to say TTS does this intentionally but it could happen once you are on their list.

Any contract purchased (resale or thru DVC directly) is recorded with the county and is a matter of public record and may even be viewed over the internet. Neither Disney or TTS would have much incentive to sell client information to their competitors, but since anyone may view it, it is readily available to anyone wanting to compile their own list.

 

[greenban]

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My personal faves are the junk mailers who enclose a self-addressed prepaid return envelope. I fill it with as much other junk mail as I can fit and mail it back to them. That costs them money, and they have no idea where it came from!

Me too!

Before postal changes (about weight limits at mailboxes) I used to tape the BRE (Business Reply Envelope) to a BRICK, and drop it in the mailbox.....

Ah yes, those were the good ole days!

-Tony

 

[JimMIA]

We've recently bought a resale at VWL, and have recently begun to get these offers as well. We didn't get them after doing the VB resale last year.

Bobbi

I would guess the difference there is the county where the info is recorded, not who you bought from. Vero is in Indian River County, which is pretty smallish, but the WDW deeds are recorded in Orange County, which is a pretty large county.

Whether the county sells the lists directly or not, any mail fulfillment house has vendors who get public records, and they usually do that by county. Obviously, Orange County would be a much better list to have if you were trying to buy up DVC contracts.

Again, I'd be very surprised if either DVC or any broker sold their lists. These lists sell for pennies, and I'm sure they would not want to publish their customer list anyway.

 

[CharlesTD]

Thanks for the heads up Doc I didn't know they made it public record see you really can make the DIS educational.

 

[T.E. Yeary]

That's a good question. NO, we do not sell or give out names of our customers. This happened just recently to one of our sales agents that made a DVC Resale purchase. Our investigation revealed the company mentioned, I believe it was Stroman, aquires the names and addresses after they are recorded in the Court House Records. Since it's a public record, we have no control over it. I cannot speak for Disney, but I feel reasonably certain they do not sell or give out names of their customers.

The last thing we would want is our customer's names & addresses falling into the hands of our competitors. That just does NOT make good business sense.

Thanks for asking,
Thomas E. Yeary (Tom)
Owner/Broker
The Timeshare Store, Inc.