I guess Rush Limbaugh Is Relevant.

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Linda, it wouldn't have made a bit of difference. First they were outraged because of what they thought he said, thanks to Dawn's paraphrasing. How dare Obama tell us we can't listen to Rush!

Then, when they read what he actually said, they became outraged by what they thought he meant. They are determined to be outraged everytime Obama opens his mouth so it really makes no difference what he says.

Also, why don't you tell us what you thought he meant. Go ahead, I'm listening.
 
I don't find either Limbaugh or Hannity to be rabid and spew out toxic garbage; nor do I believe that they thrive on splitting this country right down the middle. I place those attributes on some of the CNN pundits (that I'm sometimes forced to listen to) or someone like Keith Olbermann. But I bet you don't.

Personally, I've got no use for any of 'em. They're all about division and anger and strife because that's what gets them the ratings, and they all foster "us vs them" attitudes that get in the way of real progress. Rush is particularly disgusting at the moment, IMO, with all the time he spends chucking stones from that glass house of his, and he went way over the top with his hope that Obama fails.

I think dissent is patriotic but only when it is *constructive* dissent. Point out flaws in policy, suggest how things could be done differently... Don't just sit around slinging insults at the other side and don't get so wrapped up in the competition element of elections that you can't see past your "team loyalty" to the best interests of the nation. JMHO.
 
Personally, I've got no use for any of 'em. They're all about division and anger and strife because that's what gets them the ratings, and they all foster "us vs them" attitudes that get in the way of real progress. Rush is particularly disgusting at the moment, IMO, with all the time he spends chucking stones from that glass house of his, and he went way over the top with his hope that Obama fails.

I think dissent is patriotic but only when it is *constructive* dissent. Point out flaws in policy, suggest how things could be done differently... Don't just sit around slinging insults at the other side and don't get so wrapped up in the competition element of elections that you can't see past your "team loyalty" to the best interests of the nation. JMHO.



Ita , but isn't this what the left did with McCain/ Palin ?
 
And it's funny how nothing a democratic president says outrages you... just a republican one. Typical.

Pleas don't paint me with your brush.

I do not care what party a President belongs to.
They have all said things I do not agree with but I will
always hope that each of our Pesidents is successful in keeping our people safe and out of harms way, keeping our counrty strong, keeping our economy strong and our people free.

Isn't that what what most of us want?

Can't we at least agree to those points?

JMHO
 

And it's funny how nothing a democratic president says outrages you... just a republican one. Typical.

How would you know what outrages me? I don't believe I have ever posted that I was outraged by anything Bush said.
 
Ita , but isn't this what the left did with McCain/ Palin ?

Honestly? I don't know, because I don't watch/listen to liberal talk media any more than I do Republican. I think there were some valid issues raised, particularly about Palin, and some things that never should have been news, again particularly about Palin. It really bugged me that her pregnant teen got more attention there for a while than the abuse of power investigation, and don't even get me started on that whole flap about her wardrobe spending. :rolleyes2 :rolleyes2

It really bugs me that we've become such a trivial nation as a whole, that something as important as a presidential election during a time of economic crisis could become so bogged down in bickering over one candidate's fashion sense and another's middle name, at the expense of accurate and factual discussion of campaign platforms and proposed policies.
 
Also, why don't you tell us what you thought he meant. Go ahead, I'm listening.

I think he meant what he said.

If you would like my interpretation of that: Get the information you seek straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak, rather than those who interpret it to further their own agenda.
 
I think that following conservative principles will get things accomplished, no matter who articulates them.

And Rush does such a great job not only articulating those ideas but living by them too. He is such a family man - but I wonder which 3 wives he practices those values with or those values about drug laws - but I wonder what principles he followed when scored all those bottles of drugs. Or maybe just maybe it’s how much he is a patriotic. He is the face of a patriotic. But when it comes down to Limbaugh serving in the service a note from the ole family doctor does the trick to avoid the draft. What a hypocrite. He's laughable. Limbaugh spewing conservative values – what an example!!!! :rotfl2:
 
LOL, like I need Rush to tell me that I don't want those idiots spending money we don't have. :rotfl:

But, as is my nature, when someone tells me that I shouldn't listen to someone else I am always eager to know why they don't want me listening. I think, "What is that person saying that they don't want me to hear? And why don't they want me to hear it?"

My guess is that Rush is saying that we shouldn't spend money we don't have and that everyone is coming up with really good reasons why we simply must go further into debt...and the folks who really want to go further into debt don't want people hearing, "You shouldn't spend money you don't have"...and that the whole thing is nothing new.

Obama needn't worry. Nobody cares how deep in debt we are. They'll support whatever he says because he says it and won't ever be swayed by the idea that sinking further into debt is a really bad idea.

But listen I will. I haven't listened to Rush in eons. He better be funny.
 
Obama advises Republicans not to listen to Rush Limbaugh and apparently accept the bloated, pork infested stimulus package. I would hope that Republicans would have some conservative thoughts of their own and I find it interesting that Obama is again concerning himself with a private citizen. During the campaign, he made frequent disparaging references to Sean Hannity.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/0123200...zings_gop_foe_in_a_timulating_talk_151572.htm
By CHARLES HURT, BUREAU CHIEF

Last updated: 10:37 pm
January 23, 2009
Posted: 8:13 pm
January 23, 2009

WASHINGTON -- President Obama warned Republicans on Capitol Hill today that they need to quit listening to radio king Rush Limbaugh if they want to get along with Democrats and the new administration.

"You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done," he told top GOP leaders, whom he had invited to the White House to discuss his nearly $1 trillion stimulus package.

One White House official confirmed the comment but said he was simply trying to make a larger point about bipartisan efforts.

"There are big things that unify Republicans and Democrats," the official said. "We shouldn't let partisan politics derail what are very important things that need to get done."

That wasn't Obama's only jab at Republicans today.

In an exchange with Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.) about the proposal, the president shot back: "I won," according to aides briefed on the meeting.

"I will trump you on that."

Not that Obama was gloating. He was just explaining that he aims to get his way on stimulus package and all other legislation, sources said, noting his unrivaled one-party control of both congressional chambers.

"We are experiencing an unprecedented economic crisis that has to be dealt with and dealt with rapidly," Obama said during the meeting.

Republicans say the $825 billion price tag is too big a burden for a nation crippled by debt and that it doesn't do enough to stimulate the economy by cutting taxes.

"You know, I'm concerned about the size of the package. And I'm concerned about some of the spending that's in there, [about] ... how you can spend hundreds of millions on contraceptives," House GOP Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) later said.

"How does that stimulate the economy?"

But White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs countered: "There was a lot of agreement in that room about the notion that we're facing an economic crisis unlike we've seen in quite some time ... that we must act quickly to stimulate the economy, create jobs, put money back in people's pockets."

Gibbs disagreed with those who called the meeting window dressing.

"The president is certainly going to listen to any ideas," he said.

"He will also go to Capitol Hill the beginning of next week to talk to Republican caucuses and solicit their input and their ideas."

Obama is the best thing to every happen to Rush. Rush should send him a gift for these comments.:rotfl2:
 
How would you know what outrages me? I don't believe I have ever posted that I was outraged by anything Bush said.


Well since you are in Canada, I'm just curious why you would really care this much about American politics anyway?:confused3 But you're right I have no idea if you personally were outraged by anything Bush said, just a hunch.;)
 
I think when Obama said you can't listen to Rush and get things done, he was referring directly to this Hannity-Rush interview that took place January 21,2008:

In that interview Rush pushed his conservative view and explained why they should not want Obama to succeed. Rush implied that Obama's agenda is the polar opposite of the conservative agenda.

Edited to add:

Maybe Obama just wants both parties to work together for the good of all.
I know that is what I want.

Let's turn things around and it was McCain that won. If you opposed him during the election because you didn't agree with his vision and policies for the country, would you still want him to succeed in implementing his policies?

Working together is a noble idea but how do you do that when the ideology is so drastically different?

My prediction for Obama's "stimulus package" is that 90 percent of it (and a lot of the pork (there IS pork in it thinly (very) disguised as "stimulus")) will get passed. So much for working together.
 
I have yet to figure how we're supposed to get out of a hole by digging it deeper.

I gotta tell you that I agree, I cannot figure out how that throwing taxpayer money at the problem (while taxing us more and more) is going to give us more money to stimulate the economy.

I'm reminded of when I was a kid we were often told that if we dug a hole deep enough we would end up in China. Perhaps that was more of a philisophical prediction than we thought.

LOL :thumbsup2
 
Obama is the best thing to every happen to Rush. Rush should send him a gift for these comments.:rotfl2:

Rush has been around for 20 years and I believe he is the highest paid radio personalities, he doesn't owe Obama anything.
Those that have always listened to him will continue to. Those who find their curiosity peaked because of Obama's comments may tune in, but I don't believe they will become faithful listeners.
 
Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are relevant as long as there are rabid conservatives who enjoy the toxic garbage that they send out over the airwaves each day.

Is there some truth to the things that they say. Absolutely. However, they thrive on splitting this country right down the middle. And they have. The more upset and anger that they cause, the happier that they are (and the higher their ratings go....and the richer they get).

Geez, I guess you could say the same thing for Keith Olberman, Air America, Rachel Maddow, and Chris Matthews then. :thumbsup2
 
People want to know how we became so decisive in this country - here you go.

Rush has been spewing hate for years and is a bully and a hypocrite. The hate from the right has been nuts for a long time.

But yet the left does the same thing and we are to blame?:rotfl2: :rotfl2: Priceless.
 
Well since you are in Canada, I'm just curious why you would really care this much about American politics anyway?:confused3 But you're right I have no idea if you personally were outraged by anything Bush said, just a hunch.;)

Your hunch would be incorrect.

As far as being Canadian and having an interest in American politics goes, well, only an idiot wouldn't have an interest in what effects the global economy. We have lost tens of thousands of dollars in our investments in the last 4 months thanks to the global economic meltdown for which your country's mortgage and financial markets are largely to blame.

Thanks a pantload.
 
But as is typical of the left - anyone that disagree with them must have something wrong with them.

The Left is the most intolerant, hate-filled, name calling, closed minded group that exists with the exception of skinheads and the KKK. And the worst part about it is that while the skinheads and KKK are marginalized in this free society, the left gets to spew their poppycock freely in TV, Movies, the net and newspapers.

:thumbsup2
 
Our country isn't going to change for the better as long as the likes of Limbaugh and Hannity continue to be dividers. Too bad so many people believe their venom spewed, twisted-up values.

I think Obama made the comment he did in response to old fat pants saying he hopes Obama fails. But, trying to reason with Limbaugh and his followers is like trying to reason with a bunch of two-year-olds.

Our last president failed miserably and look where it got us. Limbaugh was wrong in every way for the last several years, and look where listening to him got us.
 
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