I guess it is OK to go to DLR in your underwear

[WebmasterMaryJo]

Okay, guys, I had to clean up this thread a bit to keep the topic DIS family friendly.

Thanks for understanding.

 

[jcarwash]

"This is Build a Bear, not Build While Bare."

 

[whoever]

"This is Build a Bear, not Build While Bare."

NICE!! Maybe there was a language barrier issue and the gal didn't understand.

 

[MaryKatesMom]

OP It is so hard to raise young girls and I'm glad your daughter spoke up about it. I would have certainly remarked to my DD's how inappropriate it was.

 

[Rhie]

I would find that a bit uncomfortable to see. I probably wouldn't say anything, but that's me. I am not sure what a clerk could do about it, though. If the woman is wearing bra and panties, she's not breaking the law. And in general, cashiers have basically no authority. If you think it is worth it, I'd say try to contact a manager at the store or at Disney. They'd be the ones to do something. But honestly, I wouldn't expect them to do anything about it. Its a public place, with all kinds of people that go there. They strive for family friendly, but clearly their idea is different than yours. And neither of you are wrong.

So this was worthy of a thread and a WARNING? Cuz kids might see something that will harm them in some way.
Come ON. One walk through the parks on a hot day and you see plenty.
I think it's interesting your daughter thought her best move was to complain to a store clerk. Wow.

I agree with your point, in general, here. There's nothing wrong or inappropriate about bodies. It's just flesh. I am of the "if it offends you, don't look" crowd as far as this goes. There's no legal dress code that says women must not wear skirts above their ankles or something. I'm glad. There shouldn't be because everyone has different and equally fine ideas about what constitutes family friendly and appropriate. And I am not at all in favor of shaming people for what they wear. Especially women. The idea that few clothes say something about the morality of a woman is ridiculous. If someone isn't breaking the local law about nudity, there's nothing really to say, in my opinion. And, judging by pretty much all the park pics I've seen - especially on Gay Day* - Disney takes that view of clothing, and that's fine.

That said I don't agree about making the OP feel badly for their own opinion. Just as they have no authority to push their idea of family values on others, the others have no authority to push our views on family friendly on them.

*not to say that gay people are less modest or whatever than anyone else. I just happen to see more rainbows and less underwear on Pride days. Which is fine with me

And far as decency...a few decades ago jeans on a woman were indecent. A few decades before that a woman alone at a park was indecent. Times change. Have your own opinions, of course, but please examine them a little before casting aspersions on other people who have different ones. I find it quite telling that, with maybe one exception, all of the attacks on people with different morality were from the camp that agrees with the OP...

 

[SgtTibbs]

Honestly, it wouldn't worry me (or my kids at any age) if people were walking around naked. What others do is not the measure I use for standards I expect for myself and my kids. At worst I'd use it as an example of what not to do.

 

[mom2rtk]

I would find that a bit uncomfortable to see. I probably wouldn't say anything, but that's me. I am not sure what a clerk could do about it, though. If the woman is wearing bra and panties, she's not breaking the law. And in general, cashiers have basically no authority. If you think it is worth it, I'd say try to contact a manager at the store or at Disney. They'd be the ones to do something. But honestly, I wouldn't expect them to do anything about it. Its a public place, with all kinds of people that go there. They strive for family friendly, but clearly their idea is different than yours. And neither of you are wrong.



I agree with your point, in general, here. There's nothing wrong or inappropriate about bodies. It's just flesh. I am of the "if it offends you, don't look" crowd as far as this goes. There's no legal dress code that says women must not wear skirts above their ankles or something. I'm glad. There shouldn't be because everyone has different and equally fine ideas about what constitutes family friendly and appropriate. And I am not at all in favor of shaming people for what they wear. Especially women. The idea that few clothes say something about the morality of a woman is ridiculous. If someone isn't breaking the local law about nudity, there's nothing really to say, in my opinion. And, judging by pretty much all the park pics I've seen - especially on Gay Day* - Disney takes that view of clothing, and that's fine.

That said I don't agree about making the OP feel badly for their own opinion. Just as they have no authority to push their idea of family values on others, the others have no authority to push our views on family friendly on them.

*not to say that gay people are less modest or whatever than anyone else. I just happen to see more rainbows and less underwear on Pride days. Which is fine with me

And far as decency...a few decades ago jeans on a woman were indecent. A few decades before that a woman alone at a park was indecent. Times change. Have your own opinions, of course, but please examine them a little before casting aspersions on other people who have different ones. I find it quite telling that, with maybe one exception, all of the attacks on people with different morality were from the camp that agrees with the OP...

Sorry, but if someone really goes shopping in a bra and panties, I'm going to judge.

 

[tdhickey]

It's also completely legal to be totally topless in most states, male or female (and all of Canada, mind you mid winter this is a bad idea). California is one of those states where it is completely legal.

Maybe the girl was looking for a new outfit?

 

[tdhickey]

My daughter was on a trip to DLR early this month with her four young children, ages 5 to 10. They were in the Build a Bear store in DTD. My daughter sees this young woman come in wearing only a bra and panties. My daughter is in her early 30s. She knows the difference between lingerie and a cute little outfit. She went up to the clerk and stated that she did not feel that what the woman was wearing was appropriate, especially in Build a Bear where there are many young children. The clerk said they could not do anything about it because what the woman was wearing was her fashion choice. I have never heard the term fashion choice but I guess it means we can go around DLR in whatever we choose to wear. So be careful. Your kids might get an eyeful in DLR.

She didn't look this woman did she?

 

[tdhickey]

or was she more like this?

 

[connorlevismom]

The only thing I can think when I see people with their butt cheeks hanging out of their shorts at any theme park is that I have to sit where those naked butt checks have been.

 

[bcla]

It's also completely legal to be totally topless in most states, male or female (and all of Canada, mind you mid winter this is a bad idea). California is one of those states where it is completely legal.

Maybe the girl was looking for a new outfit?

Exposing one's breasts in public may be considered indecent exposure in California. It's not necessarily enforced though. The law actually says "private parts", which is rather vague. The law itself is over 100 years old.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=314-318.6

 

[MaryKatesMom]

Have your own opinions, of course, but please examine them a little before casting aspersions on other people who have different ones. I find it quite telling that, with maybe one exception, all of the attacks on people with different morality were from the camp that agrees with the OP...

I was thinking it was quite the opposite actually. I thought a couple of post were pretty snide toward the OP.

I went back to the OP's post to be sure and she was quite clear, the woman was wearing a bra and panties which is also called UNDERwear. This isn't about jeans, or the length of the skirt. I'm sure if the girl walked in the store with a bikini and boy shorts the daughter wouldn't have said anything.

It wasn't at the beach is was at a "Build a Bear".

 

[SMD]

Exposing one's breasts in public may be considered indecent exposure in California. It's not necessarily enforced though. The law actually says "private parts", which is rather vague. The law itself is over 100 years old.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=314-318.6

Not true. Public nudity is 100% legal in CA (absent a local law stating otherwise) and that law only applies when it is willful and lewd. It's in the first sentence in the law. It has been interpreted in the courts that public nudity itself is not lewd and topless females have also specifically been interpreted as not lewd.

 

[DharmaLou]

And people wonder why slut shaming is such an issue for women in today's society. There's plenty of it going on in this thread.

 

[DisneylandDarling]

I can see it now - instead of People of Walmart, it's going to be "People of Disneyland"...

 

[SgtTibbs]

She didn't look this woman did she?

Well played. Very well played.

 

[bumbershoot]

Nothing wrong with walking around in a bathing suit, we are all people, we all have bodies. If you can see it at the beach a store should no different.

Eh, not everyone agrees with that. IMO beachwear should be at the beach or a pool. If you leave those places, put something more on. I also have a firm "put your shirt on!" policy, and it doesn't matter WHAT the person looks like. (since I have a DH who is a big guy, I am extremely offended by those who believe tiny clothes are only OK on tiny people, because it doesn't offend their eyes. to me, it all offends my eyes unless you are on a beach or in or very near a body of water.)

 

[SMD]

Eh, not everyone agrees with that. IMO beachwear should be at the beach or a pool. If you leave those places, put something more on. I also have a firm "put your shirt on!" policy, and it doesn't matter WHAT the person looks like. (since I have a DH who is a big guy, I am extremely offended by those who believe tiny clothes are only OK on tiny people, because it doesn't offend their eyes. to me, it all offends my eyes unless you are on a beach or in or very near a body of water.)

But at the same time you never really know a person's story. Maybe something happened to their cover-up at the beach, but they still needed to stop at a pharmacy to pick something up on the way home and there isn't enough time to go home, change clothes and go back to the store. It's a bathing suit, I can think of things that are worse.

When I was in high school I did a foreign exchange program. On the way home my jeans snagged on something on the plane and ripped a line along the bottom of the back pocket, exposing my underwear. All my clothes were checked and I had no US money or credit card or sweatshirt to tie around my waist. I sucked it up and walked onto the plane, off the plane, through the airport to my connecting flight, onto that plane, and through customs and baggage check with my butt cheek exposed. I wanted to go home and I wasn't going to let being embarrassed by my pants stop me.

I go agree with PP about people with their exposed butt cheeks in the parks though. I often see them sitting down on hot surfaces on hot days and think how gross that is. But at the same time, I always wear pants in the park and I wash my pants, so my exposure is very minimal. The only time I'd probably say something would be if that person was actually touching their butt and then touching surfaces, which is something I've also seen. Honestly, I'd just keep in mind that every park surface has probably been touched by someone who just coughed in their hand, didn't wash their hands or just scratched themselves and I wash my hands and don't touch my face or food accordingly.

 

[disneychrista]

I honestly can NOT believe that anyone truly thinks that it is appropriate to wear only a bra & panties (or bikini) to a shopping mall.

I get not body shaming someone. I get that it is only skin, etc. But social norms are to cover-up in public.