I couldn't believe what I saw last night

[RitaZ.]

http://web2.wsvn.com/news/articles/local/C36389/

I guess the boy in this story wasn't taught enough street smarts.

 

[PRINCESS VIJA]

Ok, get ready to flame away, but this is simply ridiculous! The stalls have doors, get over it....

or what if that same 13 year old follows a 12 year old girl into the ladies room..it should be OK..since it was OK before...???

That's not the point of this thread... the point is that the boys are accompanied with their parents to keep them safe.

If a 13 year old goes into the bathroom with a protective parent, I somehow can't see said same boy following the 12 year old, the protective parents would still be with the boy. For the most part these boys are so embarassed to be in the girls room, it is the parents that are trying to keep their kids safe. Look at that story about the poor 10 year old.

If there is a boy in the girls room WITHOUT an adult that would be cause for concern. I fully admit that, and management should be called to notice. HOWEVER this thread was started mentioning that a boy was WITH an adult and a 3 year old, not on his own.

 

[ScarlettO]

Originally posted by HauntedMansionGeek
DD had a gigantic fit years ago when she was a toddler, INSISTING that Grampa Bud go to the rest room with her at the local McDonalds......

Are you saying that grandpa went into the ladies room wwith the granddaughter? Or am I misreading this?

 

[HauntedMansionGeek]

Originally posted by ScarlettO
Are you saying that grandpa went into the ladies room wwith the granddaughter? Or am I misreading this?

Yup. And he helped wipe her little rear end after going too. So are you gonna turn this into something more than it was Scarlett, cuz if you are, I don't really give a damn!!!

 

[aprilgail2]

I find this whole things about 13 years olds going into the bathroom with parents pretty strange....heck at 13 my god daughter is going to the mall/ movies and other places without any parent, I couldn't imagine a kid at that age going in the ladies room with mom or dad. A few years back we dropped both kids brother 13 and sister 11 off at a water park for the day on their own...

 

[ScarlettO]

Originally posted by Sonya
I'm pretty sure it was a boy, I could be wrong but he didn't look "feminin".

This reminds me of a recent incident . I approached the back of my female friend at the family's nursery...she is sort of tomboyish looking ,with short shaggy hair... When "she" turned around I discovered her 18 year old son, who has a similar haircut.

 

[LvsTnk]

Well, my ds has special needs and is 12 1/2 and goes in the restroom with me. I am sorry but this won't stop any time soon. I have no doubt in my mind he would be taken advantage of in a heartbeat.

 

[Dancind]

There was a funny bit on Gilmore Girls on this subject recently.

You know the sign that says "Women"? I guess to some, it's more a Guideline than a Rule. POTC

Diana

 

[Briar Rose 7457]

HMG, I think I would have let the little darling wet her pants before I allowed her to manipulate me in the manner your granddaughter obviously manipulated her grandfather.

 

[MICKEY88]

Originally posted by RitaZ.
http://web2.wsvn.com/news/articles/local/C36389/

I guess the boy in this story wasn't taught enough street smarts.

there are stories online of kids being molested in schools..should parents attent schools with therir children...

and statistically most molestations are done by family members or family friends.., so realistically these boys are more at danger when at places other than public restrooms..

at what age do we let boys become young men....???

they can just as easily be assaulted at 18..especially if they are never taught street smarts....if they grow up thinking a parent is always going to be there to protect them, they will not learn what to watch for...


question for everyone who thinks it's Ok to take boys 12 or older into the ladies room....how suspicious would you be if you saw a man take a 12 year old girl into the mens room...



PS...gotta love the rolling eyes...isn't that kind of middle school behavior...

 

[HauntedMansionGeek]

Originally posted by Briar Rose 7457
HMG, I think I would have let the little darling wet her pants before I allowed her to manipulate me in the manner your granddaughter obviously manipulated her grandfather.

ROTFLMAO She was around 3 at the time. Three year old children manipulate. That's what they DO!



So BR, you say you'd let her wet her pants when a simple solution was to let her beloved "poppa" take her in to do her thing?

You know what? He babysat too sometimes and he'd have to take her to the potty at places like Menards or Knox lumber company! *gasp*





p.s. who in their right mind would "let" a child wet themselves instead of getting them to the potty when they needed to go?

 

[Briar Rose 7457]

HMG, my ex husband often took our daughters to the bathroom when they were little, even before our divorce. that's not the issue.

3 yearold manipulate. paents should not allow themselves to be amnipulated. my kids knew that hissy fits and tantrums would getthem nowhere.

 

[MICKEY88]

Originally posted by HauntedMansionGeek
ROTFLMAO She was around 3 at the time. Three year old children manipulate. That's what they DO!



So BR, you say you'd let her wet her pants when a simple solution was to let her beloved "poppa" take her in to do her thing?

You know what? He babysat too sometimes and he'd have to take her to the potty at places like Menards or Knox lumber company! *gasp*





p.s. who in their right mind would "let" a child wet themselves instead of getting them to the potty when they needed to go?

hmmmmmm whatabout option 3..take the child to the restroom and let the cry, so they learn that they can't always have their way...

 

[HauntedMansionGeek]

Originally posted by Briar Rose 7457
HMG, my ex husband often took our daughters to the bathroom when they were little, even before our divorce. that's not the issue.

3 yearold manipulate. paents should not allow themselves to be amnipulated. my kids knew that hissy fits and tantrums would getthem nowhere.

Right. I gotcha. I understood you the first time. You wouldn't let your child "manipulate" you that way so you'd let her wet herself instead!

I still say that's a stupid thing to do in the middle of McDonalds. I can just see myself standing there now ARGUING with a 3 year old, telling her that in no uncertain terms she's too wet herself instead, because after all, I will NOT allow myself to be manipulated THAT way!

And actually, men/boys going into the womens restroom IS the "issue" on this thread Briar Rose. I say it's no big deal to me to see men, boys or transvestites in the ladies room! I could care less. But hey, that's just me.

Now go bother someone else with stories of your great parenting skills Briar Bird.

 

[CEDmom]

Originally posted by Briar Rose 7457
HMG, my ex husband often took our daughters to the bathroom when they were little, even before our divorce. that's not the issue.

3 yearold manipulate. paents should not allow themselves to be amnipulated. my kids knew that hissy fits and tantrums would getthem nowhere.

ITA. DH will take DD (4 1/2) to the Men's room when he's out with her alone but he wouldn't think of doing this if I were along no matter how much she fussed. Even at 3 she knew better than to try something like that.

 

[HauntedMansionGeek]

Originally posted by MICKEY88
hmmmmmm whatabout option 3..take the child to the restroom and let the cry, so they learn that they can't always have their way...

Or.....better yet, let grampa take her in and save everyones ears! It worked great. Meltdown diverted, child stayed dry, ears saved!! WOO HOO!!! LOL

So I take it people who divert a meltdown in public are parenting wrong? Go figure. Seemed to work at the time.

Sometimes diversion is much better than getting into a power struggle with them. Pretty sure many of the "parenting" books out would tell you that as well. I'm soooooooo glad not to be parenting now. There are way too many judgemental nosy people out there these days.

 

[MICKEY88]

Originally posted by PRINCESS VIJA

That's not the point of this thread... the point is that the boys are accompanied with their parents to keep them safe. this thought was never mentioned in the original post

If a 13 year old goes into the bathroom with a protective parent, I somehow can't see said same boy following the 12 year old, the protective parents would still be with the boy.
what if the same 13 year old is at the mall with friends.

For the most part these boys are so embarassed to be in the girls room, it is the parents that are trying to keep their kids safe. Look at that story about the poor 10 year old. I saw the story about the 10 year old, but again...most molestations are committed by family members or family friends,

If there is a boy in the girls room WITHOUT an adult that would be cause for concern. I fully admit that, and management should be called to notice. HOWEVER this thread was started mentioning that a boy was WITH an adult and a 3 year old, not on his own.

I agree, and just as others choose to state they think it's OK behavior, I choose to state that I don't think it's OK except for unique circumstances...


We do our best to keep our children safe, but we also let them grow up, we have allowed them to go to the movies with friends, does this make us wrong or bad because we allowed them to use a public restroom without our protective watch...???

 

[CEDmom]

Originally posted by HauntedMansionGeek
Or.....better yet, let grampa take her in and save everyones ears! It worked great. Meltdown diverted, child stayed dry, ears saved!! WOO HOO!!! LOL

So I take it people who divert a meltdown in public are parenting wrong? Go figure. Seemed to work at the time.

Sometimes diversion is much better than getting into a power struggle with them. Pretty sure many of the "parenting" books out would tell you that as well. I'm soooooooo glad not to be parenting now. There are way too many judgemental nosy people out there these days.

I don't think the parenting books say it's ok for a grandfather to take his granddaughter into the ladies room when her mother was there and could have taken the child or at the very least the grandfather could have taken her into the mens room. This is just very odd and disconcerting.

 

[HauntedMansionGeek]

Originally posted by CEDmom
I don't think the parenting books say it's ok for a grandfather to take his granddaughter into the ladies room when her mother was there and could have taken the child or at the very least the grandfather could have taken her into the mens room. This is just very odd and disconcerting.

I don't think the parenting books say that it's NOT ok.

This was 23 years ago and our McDonalds only had one restroom. There are still a lot of places up here where there are no ladies/mens rooms.....it's all ONE bathroom. (not even a stall, JUST a toilet and sink in one room...a bit crude but hey, we manage LOL LOL)

Sometimes parenting comes down to picking your battles, and THIS day, this was NOT a battle I was going to fight with my daughter.

 

[MICKEY88]

Originally posted by HauntedMansionGeek
Or.....better yet, let grampa take her in and save everyones ears! It worked great. Meltdown diverted, child stayed dry, ears saved!! WOO HOO!!! LOL

So I take it people who divert a meltdown in public are parenting wrong? Go figure. Seemed to work at the time.

Sometimes diversion is much better than getting into a power struggle with them. Pretty sure many of the "parenting" books out would tell you that as well. I'm soooooooo glad not to be parenting now. There are way too many judgemental nosy people out there these days.

diverting a meltdown is good, allowing a child to be manipulative to the point of a man going into the ladies room is wrong... I'm sure jsut as many if not more parenting books would advise against such manipulation I 'm curious, why is it OK for you to share your opinions, but if someone posts differing opinions, they are nosey, and judgemental..


in most places a man can and will be arrested for going into a ladies room,

I don't follow the train of thought here,
if it's Ok for men to go into the ladies room...wouldn't that possibly increase the chance of females being molested in restrooms, because no one would look twice if they saw a guy enter the Ladies room