How would you feel if there was a "Sambo" in your neighborhood?

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Cyndiu said:
By the way, I find "Sambo" inappropriate. Where I come from, it's only a step or two from the "N" word. (Although I'm sure you didn't mean it that way.)
I beleive the term is appropraite here because it describes a very specific characature that this statue repesents. If you want to see what it refers to, follow this link (I will not post the actual image here as it is too offensive, I provide the link here only so that people who aren't familiar with the term will know what we are talking about)
http://www.chgs.umn.edu/Histories__...alizing_Otherness_III_Set_/glassesholderA.jpg
 
jellymanoffspring said:
Is that what she is talking about...I think it is just the "lawn jockey" but she is calling it sambo....

either way...I don't htink she is saying it in a bad way....


I think OP mentioned the people had both a sambo and a lawn jockey.
 
Lisa loves Pooh said:
http://www.ishipress.com/sambo.htm
the story of little black sambo....

Not sure the validity of this--but something interesting that it says on here:

Thank you!! I knew I remembered the Sambo in the restaurant was east indian and wearing a pugree.
 

Pugdog007 said:
I know I used to eat at Sambo's and it was pretty good. And it had neat drawings all over the wall... like scenes from Tarzan. I didn't think it was racist. :confused3

I used to eat there when visiting my Grandmother in Florida..I was young and had no idea and had no clue when remarks were made about it. One day it was closed down and everyone in town there was talking about it.
 
jellymanoffspring said:
Is that what she is talking about...I think it is just the "lawn jockey" but she is calling it sambo....

either way...I don't htink she is saying it in a bad way....
This is what I understood Sambos to be. Lawn Jockeys, while still inappropriate, do not normally feature exagerated features like a Sambo would. In any case, I am sure no offense was meant. She was just using the appropriate term for the statue. That doesn;'t mean she would approve of such a statue.
 
Beauty said:
I don't know what exactly a Sambo is but if its just a little black boy statue fishing it wouldn't bother me. Whats the difference in a little white boy or a little black boy? I think they would be cute. It would bring back memories of childhood. I can remember going fishing many many times with my grandaddy by the side of a creek and throwing my sandals off. I live in the South where we are SUPPOSED to be really racist and I don't see anything racist about it.

It's not just a black boy fishing though, it's a caricature so it has all the "stereotypical" features---usually very dark skin, wide nose, big lips. I hope this description doesn't offend anyone, just wanted to explain to Beauty why they are considered offensive.
 
Honu said:
Thank you!! I knew I remembered the Sambo in the restaurant was east indian and wearing a pugree.

All I remember is the sign.

I think Denny's is what they changed to.
 
And the story of Sambo's the restuarant (now i know how our sambo's became a denny's):
http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=Sambo's
What this country needs is a good ten-cent cup of coffee - Sambo's advertising slogan, 1967

Sambo's is/was a chain of restaurants popular in the 1960's and 1970's. The restaurant chain featured inexpensive family dining with a theme and decor based on the children's story Little Black Sambo.

This is a tale of rags-to-riches-to-rags, of a brilliant idea buried by racism and poor management. This is the story of Sambo's.

Origins
Let's go back to the year 1957 and the town of Santa Barbara, California. Two recent college graduates, Sam Battistone and Newell "Bo" Bohnett, decided to enter the restaurant business together; their goal was to start a chain of restaurants using some of the techniques developed by Ray Croc, Dave Thomas, and other early fast food chain entrepreneurs and apply them in a manner that was family-friendly.

The pair decided to combine their names and use that as a restaurant name: Sam and Bo's, which was quickly shortened to Sambo's. They opened their first restaurant in 1957 in Santa Barbara, and it was an instant success due to its family-friendly sit-down dining environment and very low prices (one of the distinguishing characteristics of Sambo's).

In 1958, Battistone was introduced to the children's story Little Black Sambo, written by Helen Bannerman in 1899. The story told the tale of Sambo, an Indian boy who goes into the jungle and loses his clothing to bullying tigers. But the tigers chase each other around a tree and eventually melt into butter, which Sambo puts on his pancakes and eats.

Battistone and Bohnett decided to theme their restaurant around this children's story. They redecorated the restaurant and menus to match the art from the book and made pancakes one of their signature dishes. This choice was a bright idea, but it would come back to haunt the pair.

Rapid Success (1960-1978)
With this retheming, the restaurant chain began to take off. The second and third Sambo's opened in California in 1959, and the chain quickly spread, as it occupied a market niche that was largely unfilled: an inexpensive and relatively speedy family restaurant.

By the mid-1970's, the chain was the fourth most-franchised restaurant chain in the United States, with more than 1,400 franchises in the United States and 200 more in Canada by 1977. In fact, the success of the chain was such that other restaurant chains, such as McDonald's, Wendy's, Arby's, and Perkins used Sambo's as a model business during the food franchise wars of the 1970's.

Unfortunately, things were about to go downhill for Sambo's.

The Beginning of the End (1978-1982)
In 1978, the chain received multiple lawsuit threats due to its choice of decor. The "Sambo" character, as portrayed in the children's book, had very dark skin and it was perceived that Sambo was a stereotype of people of African descent. The story itself was also described as being racially insensitive, as Sambo makes some questionable choices in the story; this contributed to the perception of Sambo as a racial stereotype.

The chain attempted to rename and redesign itself to avoid lawsuits (names such as Sam's and Special's were tried in the early 1980s), but the second major problem in the Sambo's chain began to rear its head. In order to spur on rapid expansion of the chain, the business structure of Sambo's was organized as a clever Ponzi scheme.

The scheme worked like this: in addition to pay, workers at Sambo's were compensated with "Sambo's Shares." These shares, when accumulated, could be used to purchase a new Sambo's franchise at a reduced price. The goal of this scheme was to encourage forward-thinking Sambo's employees to start their own chains, but the actual result was that people were buying Sambo's franchises without the financial means to truly support the restaurant.

The Downhill Slide (1982-1989)
Between 1982 and 1989, the number of Sambo's restaurants in North America went from roughly 1450 restaurants to just one. With franchises going out of business, since they were unable to afford the costs of redesign and restructuring, the franchise fees for the chain stopped coming in. As a result, the chain was unable to promote itself and thus even well-managed individual restaurants went out of business.

Denny's, another restaurant chain with a similar target niche, made a name for itself in 1984, when it purchased roughly 800 of the Sambo's franchises and rechristened them as Denny's.

By 1989, only the original Sambo's (then called Sam's) in Santa Barbara remained.

The Legacy of Sambo's (1990-date)
The Santa Barbara restaurant reverted to the Sambo's name in 1990 (minus the decor) and is still in business today. Chad Stevens, the grandson of Sam Battistone, now owns the restaurant and has flirted with the idea of expanding with new Sambo's restaurants, but for now, there is only one Sambo's.

Interestingly enough, Sambo's is perhaps best remembered in the field of wooden nickel collecting. During the 1960's and 1970's, Sambo's used wooden nickels as part of their promotion for selling coffee; one could exchange a Sambo's wooden nickel for a cup of coffee, and these nickels were often sold in bundles (i.e., eight or ten for a dollar). These nickels are now coveted among wooden nickel collectors.

Lessons Learned
The story of Sambo's has two valuable lessons for those looking to start a restaurant chain. The first one is to choose your theme wisely; a poor choice in terms of theming your restaurant can come back to haunt you. The second, and perhaps more important, lesson is that overexpansion can be the death knell; pick your franchisees carefully so that your business chain has a stable background and financial stability.
 
Wow, learn new things everyday. I wouldn't say anything to my neighbors, but that's me. I wouldn't want to risk finding out that they were perfectly aware what it represented and then things would feel even more awkward.
 
My parents have a neighbor down the street who had a lawn jockey when we were kids. Of course, it was an African American lawn jockey. However, Dad told me to go take a walk past their place recently to look at the lawn jockey. They painted his skin peach to make him less offensive. According to my Dad, the neighbors received an anonymous letter saying that the lawn jockey was offensive and they'd better do something about it!! Add that there are no African Americans in the neighborhood, so the letter didn't come from an African American.

However, I wonder if someone would take offense at a peach colored lawn jockey? I feel like sending them an anonymous note stating that the lawn jockey is offensive and they better do something about it. Maybe they'd get rid of that ugly thing once and for all?!
 
black or "peach"----I'm not quite understanding the "offense" of a lawn jockey. :confused3

Help me out here--what's the connotation???
 
Thanks! I am actually at a loss after looking at the link I don't guess I have ever seen anything like that around here. There are statues but I've never seen one that looked offensive. Most of them are just the grey stone color and there are everything from people to fairys. The picture of the "sambo" in that link I would think offensive because of the exaggerations.
 
I looked up lawn jockey to see if I could figure out why it has a negative connotation associated with it. I had heard it was a tribute and this is what I found.

http://www.horseinfo.com/info/misc/jockeyinfo.html

I copies this one:
http://www.mountainhomeplace.com/jocko.htm
The Story Of Jocko
What is the history behind "Jocko"?

Jocko or the Lawn Jockey is seen in the South and in the Appalachian's of the United States.
Many have been destroyed because of the thinking that they are a racial slur to African-Americans. But is this true?

The River Road African American Museum in Louisiana tells us that lawn jockeys represent nothing of the sort, rather they show us a proud moment in U.S. history.


The story begins the icy night in December 1776 when General George Washington decided to cross the Delaware River to launch a surprise attack on the British forces at Trenton.
Jocko Graves, a twelve-year-old African-American, sought to fight the Redcoats, but Washington deemed him too young and ordered him to look after the horses, asking Jocko to keep a lantern blazing along the Delaware so the company would know where to return after battle. Many hours later, Washington and his men returned to their horses who were tied up to Graves, he had frozen to death with the lantern still clenched in his fist. Washington was so moved by the young boy's devotion to the revolutionary cause he commissioned a statue of the "Faithful Groomsman" to stand in Graves's honor at the general's estate in Mount Vernon.

By the time of the Civil War, these "Jocko" statues could be found on plantations throughout the South: like the North Star that pointed fleeing slaves to their freedom, the Jocko statues pointed to the safe houses of the Underground Railroad. Along the Mississippi River, a green ribbon tied to a statue's arm — whether clandestinely or with the owner's knowledge — indicated safety; a red ribbon meant danger. Thus these original lawn jockey statues today fetch thousands of dollars as true artifacts of the Underground Railroad that conducted so many African-American slaves to freedom.

Similar cast-iron statues began appearing in the decades after Washington's crossing of the Delaware in jockey silks, whether for aesthetic reasons or confusion born of Graves's first name. The clothing worn by the lawn jockeys resembled the clothing worn by black riding jockeys, who have a glorious history. In 1875, the first 13 winners of the Kentucky Derby were black, the first being Jockey Oliver Lewis.
Lewis was the first to win three Derbies.

So contrary to some folk's thinking that these statues are a racial slur they are a memorial to Jocko, a beacon for Freedom and a tribute to some of the greatest Jockey's racing has ever known!
 
wow--thanks Carolyn.

It is amazing how something has its origins for non-offensive purposes gets turned around and is taboo.
 
This has been very educational for me. There was an older lady who used to live next door to me. Her dog was named Sambo and another neighbor told me that the name was very offensive. She seemed so offended by the name that I didn't want to ask her why...now I understand.

So thanks everyone for explaining this sensitive topic instead of getting angry.
 
So contrary to some folk's thinking that these statues are a racial slur they are a memorial to Jocko, a beacon for Freedom and a tribute to some of the greatest Jockey's racing has ever known!

I won't disagree with you or the article, but I know where I live the only people who had/have the "jockey's" are ones who are racist. The first people I mentioned, I don't know them well enough to tell, just say "Hi" type of thing. Others though, oh yeah....
 
I will probably get flamed for this but I feel I must speak my .02!! Why is it that black people are so quick to claim discrimination? I mean ***?? A lawn jockey in a front yard?? They say that is discriminatory or the name Sambo? It just erks me to no end when they cry wolf about this stuff. What about us white folks that feel the NAACP is discriminating us? Can we have an association for white people? Why is there a black Miss America pageant and no white Miss America pageant? They can compete in the white one but there are no whites in theirs?? Sometimes I feel discriminated against when all these sensitive issues are brought to light. Why can't they just get over it and get on with life? Life is too short to moan and groan about what statues are in front of a neighbor's house or an old restaurant name!
 
Pugdog007 said:
I know I used to eat at Sambo's and it was pretty good. And it had neat drawings all over the wall... like scenes from Tarzan. I didn't think it was racist. :confused3
I was just thinking of this the other day. I LOVED Sambo's growing up. It was my favorite place to go on my birthday.
I believe sometimes we look too hard to find things offensive. I personally am only offended if I know someome intended it that way and then I figure the problem is theirs.
Chances are in this case they have no idea it could be offensive.
 
I agree w/ a previous poster, I think people look too hard to find things to be offended by.
 
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