How would you change FP+ to make it better?

[HatboxHaint]

Photocopy the Magic Kingdom exactly as is with fastpass+ and build it over by Flamingo Crossings. Then at the original magic kingdom: remove fastpass+, reinstall fastpass machines, allow only AP holders entry, ban strollers and hand out a dole whip as you pass through the turnstiles.

 

[DisneyBum303]

3 things I think would help.
1 - 4th FP from phone.
2 - Do away with the tier system. The park with the two toughest to get FPs doesnt even have or need a tier system why should the others?
3 - Allow multiple parks. I think this would work well with changing 1 and 2. You could be at one park, do your three and immediately plan your 4th at another park. Also doing away with the tier system would make all attractions in the different parks not on a tier system so there would be no reason an individual could not get one in a park with two later in another park or vice versa.

This!!

We pay extra for that park hopper. I'd like to be able to use FP+ the same way, not use all three in one park then hope I can get lucky at the second park we hit.

 

[minnie mum]

I'd love to see them scrap the whole darned thing and go to an electronic fp legacy system that you could use with phone or kiosk. Put everyone back on an equal footing. Allow one pre-booked fp per day at any Park, to satisfy the park hoppers or late starters. Get rid of fp entirely on those rides that didn't have them previously. That way the standby lines for those rides become shorter again.

 

[Tarheel girl 1975]

i'd love to see them scrap the whole darned thing and go to an electronic fp legacy system that you could use with phone or kiosk. Put everyone back on an equal footing. Allow one pre-booked fp per day at any park, to satisfy the park hoppers or late starters. Get rid of fp entirely on those rides that didn't have them previously. That way the standby lines for those rides become shorter again.

+1

 

[TXAKDisneyFan]

3 things I think would help.
1 - 4th FP from phone.
2 - Do away with the tier system. The park with the two toughest to get FPs doesnt even have or need a tier system why should the others?
3 - Allow multiple parks. I think this would work well with changing 1 and 2. You could be at one park, do your three and immediately plan your 4th at another park. Also doing away with the tier system would make all attractions in the different parks not on a tier system so there would be no reason an individual could not get one in a park with two later in another park or vice versa.

I haven't used FP+ yet, but based on what I've heard, I agree with the above.

• I would decrease the number of days FP+ could be made in advance (I'd also decrease the number of days ADRs could be made in advance by maybe half, but that's another issue)
• Allow advance FP+ reservations to be made in multiple parks
• Eliminate tiering
• Allow in-park FP+ to be made on mobile devices (as well as kiosks for those who do not have smartphones)
• Only have FP+ for the rides that previously had FP-, and maybe for some M&Gs with notoriously long lines (like A&E). I definitely do not understand the concept of FP+ for counter-service restaurants (BOG lunch) - just make it a sit-down restaurant with regular ADRs, for Pete's sake.

 

[linzbear]

a) An "advanced" option that allows you to book FP+ one at a time, does not require 3 FPs, and you can choose any time the same as how the dining site does.
b) Can book the "4th" FP from the app
c) Show availability for dates as a percentage of total on the main calendar (So Anna and Elsa on your first day of your trip would show 0% available, but the last day may show 70% available)
d) Do away with resort preferential treatment of 30 days. This should also be like dining - 60 days out for everyone, 60+10 for resort guests.

 

[disneygolfer1985]

I personally don't like the FP+ system. I enjoy the ability to wing my vacation. Disney is starting to become too pre-planned, and I think that takes away from the magic, but that is just me. I feel like I was able to get more done with the old system than I can now with the new FP+.

 

[Lil'Mermaid75]

I'd love to see them scrap the whole darned thing and go to an electronic fp legacy system that you could use with phone or kiosk. Put everyone back on an equal footing. Allow one pre-booked fp per day at any Park, to satisfy the park hoppers or late starters. Get rid of fp entirely on those rides that didn't have them previously. That way the standby lines for those rides become shorter again.

Totally agree!!

 

[kerplop]

Get rid of tiers (especially the ones that don't make sense - I mean Livin With the Land and Test Track? Really) and make it so you can book subsequent FP after the first 3 with your phone/the app. Then I'd be a happy camper.

 

[jade1]

Leave it as it is BUT:

Start expansion.

Every new headliner is 50% SB and 50% FP+ purchase-like $2 to $10 each depending on popularity, season and how extravagant/expensive the headliner created is.

Each headliner would add app 10 million riders each year-or 5 Million FP+. So a $500 Million headliner could be paid off in 10 years, at that time it would be part of the no extra charge pool of FP+.

These would not be part of your 3 FP+.

WDW gets free attraction expansion (and no excuses to not build), and guests get additional choices either SB or purchase-and eventually more FP+ at no extra charge.

 

[Suvadoo]

I'd love to see them scrap the whole darned thing and go to an electronic fp legacy system that you could use with phone or kiosk. Put everyone back on an equal footing. Allow one pre-booked fp per day at any Park, to satisfy the park hoppers or late starters. Get rid of fp entirely on those rides that didn't have them previously. That way the standby lines for those rides become shorter again.

Agreed. But I would want to return to legacy when the return times were not strictly enforced or increase the FP return time to 2 hours. The 1 hour return is too restrictive IMO.

 

[Airship Ariadne]

d) Do away with resort preferential treatment of 30 days. This should also be like dining - 60 days out for everyone, 60+10 for resort guests.

Then why not ditch the Extra Magic Hours as well, totally remove all on-site benefits.

At least Disney gives off-site guests a free version even if it isn't as good as the on-site version...US makes off-site guests PAY for the jump option.

But maybe that is the solution, combine with US idea: 30 days out for everyone, $50 extra per day if you are off-site.

 

[Zhaan]

I'd love to see them scrap the whole darned thing and go to an electronic fp legacy system that you could use with phone or kiosk. Put everyone back on an equal footing. Allow one pre-booked fp per day at any Park, to satisfy the park hoppers or late starters. Get rid of fp entirely on those rides that didn't have them previously. That way the standby lines for those rides become shorter again.

This!

 

[nluvwithdisney]

I remember the days of glares and snide remarks of legacy fast pass when those who were clueless about it or didn't want to bother with it were upset because they saw the "elite" bypassing the line!

What I don't understand is why the animosity of giving onsite guests more perks with fastpass. I'm not saying offsite guests can't use the program but maybe they would have to pay for it or the onsite guests will be able to have more fast passes than offsite. Those with AP's should have the same privileges as onsite.

Of course Disney still needs to address the loopholes in existence right now for even fp+ to work properly or as intended.

 

[Suvadoo]

Then why not ditch the Extra Magic Hours as well, totally remove all on-site benefits.

At least Disney gives off-site guests a free version even if it isn't as good as the on-site version...US makes off-site guests PAY for the jump option.

But maybe that is the solution, combine with US idea: 30 days out for everyone, $50 extra per day if you are off-site.

I don't think it's fair to compare Universal 's EP with Disney's FP+. Yes if you are off site you pay at Universal, but you are getting front of the line access for all rides except Harry Potter attractions. FP+ is allowing you to reserve 3 rides in advance.

If Disney was offering the same as Universal, I would be willing to pay $50/day extra (I realize this would be impossible). But I would not pay $50/day for 3 FP+attractions.

 

[Praying Colonel]

Ditch pre-booking, period. Walk up to an attraction and instead of pulling a ticket, you reserve with your Magic Band. Essentially, a greener Legacy FP.

 

[Suvadoo]

I remember the days of glares and snide remarks of legacy fast pass when those who were clueless about it or didn't want to bother with it were upset because they saw the "elite" bypassing the line!

What I don't understand is why the animosity of giving onsite guests more perks with fastpass. I'm not saying offsite guests can't use the program but maybe they would have to pay for it or the onsite guests will be able to have more fast passes than offsite. Those with AP's should have the same privileges as onsite.

Of course Disney still needs to address the loopholes in existence right now for even fp+ to work properly or as intended.

IMO Disney should have invested in additional attractions prior to FP+ implementation. Then maybe there wouldn't be so much competition for the same attractions.

 

[over50visits]

The concept is pretty good, and clearly supports the end game of no SB lines. The implementation is quirky, hampered by poor IT, and difficult to understand and use. If Disney can address those problems, we'll all accept it and the move toward elimination of SB, and live with it.

Disney is clearly moving toward paid FPs beyond a core set of free ones (3). I don't like that, but it is consistent with their behavior everywhere else. So, FP+ really fits into that goal nicely. It is a great behavior control system. RD crowds may become a thing of the past!

 

[nluvwithdisney]

IMO Disney should have invested in additional attractions prior to FP+ implementation. Then maybe there wouldn't be so much competition for the same attractions.

Agreed. Or at least invested in upgrading more of the current attractions as well. I love most of the attractions but many could use some updates as well.

 

[Airship Ariadne]

I don't think it's fair to compare Universal 's EP with Disney's FP+. Yes if you are off site you pay at Universal, but you are getting front of the line access for all rides except Harry Potter attractions. FP+ is allowing you to reserve 3 rides in advance.

If Disney was offering the same as Universal, I would be willing to pay $50/day extra (I realize this would be impossible). But I would not pay $50/day for 3 FP+attractions.

Then we can amend to make it more like US, it is good for one return time to everything except TSMM, 7DMT, SOARIN, and A&E...unless you are on-site.

The point is, right now, the biggest complaint (other than the loss of FP legacy loopholes for cheating the system) is that you can't get all the hottest ticket rides at the perfect times.

By being nice and offering the service free to all attendees (unlike all other park companies that rake in the money on them...Six Flags it is $100+ per ticket, per day ) they have created the problem where not everyone that wants a FP for a ride can get one.

I didn't get one for HM on our last day (the day it reopens after the refurb) but I am not calling for flaming barrles of oil to be launched into the park, like some who didn't get an A&E FP. I totally get that there are limits...they either need to limit WHO can use the system, or limit the numbers at each ride...as an on-site person, yeah, I would prefer them to limit the WHO to US. But since that is not their plan, I'm ok with getting a jump on the offsite people....didn't used to get that before, except for morning EMH...which were only good for that reason.