How would you change FP+ to make it better?

[richmo]

My suggestions would be:

- Allow the initial 3 to be split among parks if possessing a park hopper/AP.
- Increase the advance scheduling number, maybe to four.
- Perhaps allow four to be pre-scheduled at MK, since there are so many attractions there.
- Figure out a way to eliminate tiering at Epcot (the real solution here would be to add at least a couple 'E' ticket attractions)
- Again for park hoppers, allow scheduling a fourth+ FP at a different park before arriving at that park
- Ability to do everything concerning FP's on MDE (this may be done by now?). I'd like to see the MDE app perform so well that the only ones that need kiosks would be those without smartphones.

 

[linzbear]

Then why not ditch the Extra Magic Hours as well, totally remove all on-site benefits.

At least Disney gives off-site guests a free version even if it isn't as good as the on-site version...US makes off-site guests PAY for the jump option.

But maybe that is the solution, combine with US idea: 30 days out for everyone, $50 extra per day if you are off-site.

Well first of all, there was still an on-site benefit to booking FP+. It was 60+10 as opposed to off site 60. You know, exactly like dining.

Second, this is a brand new onsite benefit as previously FP was available to everyone equally. Ditching the new perk doesn't make the previous perks useless.

Third, I don't even stay off site. I just feel bad that off site visitors don't even get a chance at the popular attractions without doing a ropedrop rush. Their money is green, too.

Fourth, Disney cannot do anything like Universal's system due to volume. Proportionally, US visitors are mostly off-site because they only have 2 hotels to go with their 2 parks. Disney has (if I'm counting right) 21 resorts and 4 parks. They have to do it differently.

 

[cakebaker]

I didn't get one for HM on our last day (the day it reopens after the refurb) but I am not calling for flaming barrles of oil to be launched into the park, like some who didn't get an A&E FP. I totally get that there are limits...they either need to limit WHO can use the system, or limit the numbers at each ride...as an on-site person, yeah, I would prefer them to limit the WHO to US. But since that is not their plan, I'm ok with getting a jump on the offsite people....didn't used to get that before, except for morning EMH...which were only good for that reason.

Amen!

 

[SydneyFalco]

Me, I'd put all your fastpasses in a handy little booklet, and instead of tiers the more popular attractions would have a higher rating (maybe a letter rating) and there'd be fewer of them in the booklet...

Also, I would give every visitor, including myself, a sedative at the turnstyles. Or a reversion pill to mutate them into 1977 versions of themselves, somehow willing to wait two hours in the sun to see all the same stuff that somehow now "isn't worth a fast pass". All the bell bottoms and plaid would sting the eyes a little bit, I admit.

 

[CTDisneyfan816]

Someone posted somewhere that they are already working on passes for multiple parks on the same day.

 

[Airship Ariadne]

Someone posted somewhere that they are already working on passes for multiple parks on the same day.

Which would be nice, but again, I just don't see how not including a perk that was not part of the Legacy FP (without cheating the system) is such a large flaw that it gets brought up constantly.

Yes, FP+ would be better with that...it would also be better if it washed my car and brought me a beer (a good microbrew, none of the Bud or Miller junk) while I waited for my time to book them...but just because they don't doesn't mean I'm going to call them flawed...though they better get on that beer thing!

 

[cakebaker]

Which would be nice, but again, I just don't see how not including a perk that was not part of the Legacy FP (without cheating the system) is such a large flaw that it gets brought up constantly.

Yes, FP+ would be better with that...it would also be better if it washed my car and brought me a beer (a good microbrew, none of the Bud or Miller junk) while I waited for my time to book them...but just because they don't doesn't mean I'm going to call them flawed...though they better get on that beer thing!

I would prefer mine bring me a nice glass of wine...

It's relatively new, I hear all sorts of things they plan on making it capable of, but for now, it works quite well for us. I'm looking forward to seeing the new additions, but it's far from a disaster now for us and I suspect many, many others.

A great deal of animosity seems to be directed towards the fact that on site gets additional time to book. This is nothing new. There used to be complaints that on site got emh- back in the old days there were complaints that on site got to buy a hard ticket for extra hours- Some off site guests don't like on site guests getting extras. But, Disney has always added perks- if you want the perks you stay on site. If you don't you get to save a bundle staying off site. And this isn't the first time they've given perks that pertain to the parks. Disney links on site stays with park activity, always have, even more so now.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Assumption - you can't get rid of it altogether....

I would have some combination of FP+ and Legacy FP - but all electronic. Instead of 3 advance FP+, only allow 1 or 2 but allow making "in park" FP once you enter the park subject to similar rules as Legacy FP. Your advance FP+ doesn't preclude you from making more FP once in the park even before the advance FP+ window but some rules would have to be established on when you can make more FP.

Like, if you have a FP+ coming up in the next 2 hours, the times available to you for other FP are 2 hours or more in the future. Similar to Legacy FP, once you get an in park FP, you can't get another until the window for that one opens or 2 hours has passed. Any FP+ you hold will also affect what FP you can get.

If you are allowed to make multiple FP+ in advance, they can be for multiple parks if you have a park hopper ticket. If I make my 1 or 2 FP+ for Epcot in the evening, I can still get FP for MK in the morning once I enter MK.

I think this would bring back much of what people liked about Legacy FP while keeping much of the benefit of FP+.

First of all, I would scrap it on any ride to which it is ill suited. Does pirates need a fast pass? Absolutely not. It's a people eater. Turn it on, let it do what it does best. Munch Munch Munch. It has been a tried and true formula for years. Just turn it on, let it eat people. Don't, by implementing fast pass, turn a ride that I never needed a fast pass for ever into one I do. Silliness.

Secondly, Don't waste my time with menus. UGGGGGH!!!!! Just put em up there and give me the procedures. I don't need a computer to tell me WHICH TWO RIDES I WANT!!!.

Thirdly, I think the old rules with armbands would be fine. Maybe allow two reservations and once in the park, fast passes work the old rules.

 

[pickers1982]

I would do fast pass plus for one ride a day and traditional fast passes for rides as well. That way you are guaranteed to do the one you really want at a set time. To be honest the only reason fast pass is good for me is so I don't have to fight to go on tsmm!!!!

I would set up some kind of swap function too so members of public can have a better chance of swapping for something they really want

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

I would prefer mine bring me a nice glass of wine...
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After it brings me my free Lemborghini.

 

[Networth]

, Disney cannot do anything like Universal's system due to volume. Proportionally, US visitors are mostly off-site because they only have 2 hotels to go with their 2 parks. Disney has (if I'm counting right) 21 resorts and 4 parks. They have to do it differently.

Universal has 4 on site hotels.

 

[TXAKDisneyFan]

Or a reversion pill to mutate them into 1977 versions of themselves, somehow willing to wait two hours in the sun to see all the same stuff that somehow now "isn't worth a fast pass".

Well, I wouldn't like this at all. I'm sure that as a set of gametes, I wouldn't meet the height requirements for any of the mountains

 

[SydneyFalco]

Well, I wouldn't like this at all. I'm sure that as a set of gametes, I wouldn't meet the height requirements for any of the mountains

Yes, but you would also not be obligated to wear the bell bottoms.

 

[minnie mum]

A great deal of animosity seems to be directed towards the fact that on site gets additional time to book. This is nothing new. There used to be complaints that on site got emh- back in the old days there were complaints that on site got to buy a hard ticket for extra hours- Some off site guests don't like on site guests getting extras. But, Disney has always added perks- if you want the perks you stay on site. If you don't you get to save a bundle staying off site. And this isn't the first time they've given perks that pertain to the parks. Disney links on site stays with park activity, always have, even more so now.

I don't think it is fair to equate the EMH perk with the current inequality in getting fps . EMH is something extra. Over and above the regular Park hours that are available to anyone with a ticket.

A ticket is a ticket and should permit everyone the same access to park amenities and services during regular Park hours. But Disney has decided to place offsiters in the position of second class citizens and still charge them full price. It is simply not fair that they don't have the same access to fps that on site guests have when they are paying the same price for the same ticket.

 

[minnie mum]

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[Airship Ariadne]

A ticket is a ticket and should permit everyone the same access to park amenities and services during regular Park hours. But Disney has decided to place offsiters in the position of second class citizens and still charge them full price. It is simply not fair that they don't have the same access to fps that on site guests have when they are paying the same price for the same ticket.

But Disney is alone in that thinking, go to any other theme park and they will either 1. only offer line passes to onsite guests (regardless of a ticket being a ticket) or 2. offer a line pass to everyone...for a fee that in many cases is as much or twice as much as the park admission ticket...or 3. both.

As much as everyone says they are done with Disney and going to Universal, I think those same people would freak if Disney used the Universal "pay if you don't stay" plan.

Personally, I wish they would go further and limit FP+ to resort guests, would ease those lines. And since we are the ones spending more money for the packages, then it does make since that we get more perks...offsite aren't "second class" more like coach class.

 

[jade1]

Leave it as it is BUT:

Start expansion.

Every new headliner is 50% SB and 50% FP+ purchase-like $2 to $10 each depending on popularity, season and how extravagant/expensive the headliner created is.

Each headliner would add app 10 million riders each year-or 5 Million FP+. So a $500 Million headliner could be paid off in 10 years, at that time it would be part of the no extra charge pool of FP+.

These would not be part of your 3 FP+.

WDW gets free attraction expansion (and no excuses to not build), and guests get additional choices either SB or purchase-and eventually more FP+ at no extra charge.

Hmm.

 

[Kbrb]

Hmm.

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[hhisc16]

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[Kbrb]

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