how serious/important is it to have a plan?

marriedmarylander

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DH just argued with me because I try to make a plan for our vacation. He's just like "Wake up when we wake up, go where we want to go." He says to just go and stay in one place - don't go somewhere, hop somewhere else, come back to the park, etc. Needless to say he says "Why do we need extra hours at the park? Who cares about that". I guess I did try to over-schedule some things :guilty:

One reason I wanted to have a plan is because DH wants to go to Islands of Adventure for a day so I need to know when to rent the car. If I don't reserve in advance, a car may not be there or we may end up with higher rates.

Another reason was because I want to swim with sharks at TL and visit BB because I've never been before. (I don't know what I was doing on my last TL trip that I didn't do the swimming with sharks). So I am not sure how to fit two water parks into the schedule. DH says going on water slides isn't that important and I should just pick one or the other.

Someone just tell me I'm going crazy and don't need to go commando with it... or how you guys plan thing out?
 
I can't tell you you're crazy. I'm a commando too! Now, I don't follow the plan letter for letter every day, but having some plan to fall back on definately helps! :) I went once without a plan and we wasted what added up to HOURS asking "What do you want to do?" and we missed out on so much! So we're never going w/o a plan again. We always leave a couple days open, but we plan to see all the parks in the begining. Once an overview and the "not to be missed"s have been hit, it's anyone's game. :earsboy:
 
He's just like "Wake up when we wake up, go where we want to go."
I think much depends on when you are going and what the crowds will be like.

If he expects to sleep until 10 and get to the parks at 11 and be able to walk onto rides....well, then he may just appreciate those evening EMH's!
 
I think one problem with EMH mornings is me :(
On a normal day you're lucky to get me out of bed by 9 AM. Maybe it's better not to plan a morning EMH.
 

we do not plan and always seem to get the parks early (enough)
sometimes it is what ever bus comes first........ :rotfl:
Mears goes to universal for I around 15 a person round trip
if not I am sure you can rent a car for cheap durnig the week there are rental places in some of the DownTown Disney Hotels (the none Disney Hotels on Property) there is no shortage of rental cars in Orlando. If you need a Mini van or bigger car then....reserve
if the car is to much and you don't want to do Mears you can take a taxi for 25 each way
there are always a lot of options.
Enjoy your vacation for what it is a vacation ::MickeyMo
 
Hello,

In order to keep you both happy/sane perhaps you should plan every other day.

Find out exactly when he wants to go to IOA so you can book a rental car in advance (explain you need to know this so you can get the car at a good rate) .

If you can only visit one water park do some research and decide which is best for you.

Get a couple of EMH sorted telling him he can have s lie in on those mornings.

It is very hard to go to WDW without a plan but it is his holiday aswell...

My DF is the same re' plans, I have spent the best part of this last year planning our July/Aug '05 trip and even though he lets me get on with it he doesn't really understand the need!

Good luck :shamrock:

:flower:

Ely3857
 
Anthony1971 said:
we do not plan and always seem to get the parks early (enough)
sometimes it is what ever bus comes first........ :rotfl:
Mears goes to universal for I around 15 a person round trip
if not I am sure you can rent a car for cheap durnig the week there are rental places in some of the DownTown Disney Hotels (the none Disney Hotels on Property) there is no shortage of rental cars in Orlando. If you need a Mini van or bigger car then....reserve
if the car is to much and you don't want to do Mears you can take a taxi for 25 each way
there are always a lot of options.
Enjoy your vacation for what it is a vacation ::MickeyMo

I swear someone told me Mears Shuttle was $70 roundtrip. I can't remember where I saw that.
 
Even if you do not want to plan out every little detail, I think you at least need to decide where you are going each day, and if you want to eat anywhere that has PS, you will need to plan that also. Of course you need to be flexible enough to account for the things you cannot control, such as the weather. I don't do down-to-the-minute planning because my 3 year old just wouldn't understand why we we have to wait till a certain time to go on the Pooh ride, etc., but we do have a general plan of what days to do what parks, and if there are things that start at a certain time (parades, etc.) that we want to see, etc.
 
marriedmarylander said:
DH just argued with me because I try to make a plan for our vacation. He's just like "Wake up when we wake up, go where we want to go." He says to just go and stay in one place - don't go somewhere, hop somewhere else, come back to the park, etc. Needless to say he says "Why do we need extra hours at the park? Who cares about that". I guess I did try to over-schedule some things :guilty:

One reason I wanted to have a plan is because DH wants to go to Islands of Adventure for a day so I need to know when to rent the car. If I don't reserve in advance, a car may not be there or we may end up with higher rates.

Another reason was because I want to swim with sharks at TL and visit BB because I've never been before. (I don't know what I was doing on my last TL trip that I didn't do the swimming with sharks). So I am not sure how to fit two water parks into the schedule. DH says going on water slides isn't that important and I should just pick one or the other.

Someone just tell me I'm going crazy and don't need to go commando with it... or how you guys plan thing out?
I will have my attorneys contact you so you may begin the process of divorcing this boor and taking him for all he is worth. :rotfl2:

Ok just kidding. Truth is - if you show up at WDW without some type of plan... you are either stupid, a masochist, a WDW virgin without the slightest clue of what you are getting into...or you are so laid back that it really doesn't matter to you that you will be paying serious dollars to; 1) be late to everything, 2) to stand in long hour and a half lines, 3) to get heat stroke as you stand there baking in the sun. Paying premium pricing dollars to; 4) get on very few rides 5) see very few shows from the worst seats or standing, 6) wind up with a whole slew of hassles because you didn't spend the time to plan or anticipate them. :confused3

Here is the deal - you plan like a banshi, then you plan some more, then you change your plans and modify ... you eventually get exasperated and throw your hands up in the air thinking, "We are screwed". All of this planning however is a learning experience. You start to internalize things at WDW. That knowledge in and of itself prepares you to be more flexible in your daily routine once you get there.

Imagine if you will. You have done no planning whatsoever. You have no idea what to expect. You have no insider secret tidbits from the DISboards. You just show up. You go to the parks whenever. Lines are an hour long. You don't have any idea of what to do next. Maybe we will go over to shops on mainstreet. "Eeekkk...husband doesn't like shopping all day."..." Ok well lets go sit down and have lunch." "Eeeek you have to have a what? A priority seating? Really?" So then you decide to get counter service. You break out your map to find a counter service restaurant cause you don't know where they are because you have not planned so you have no idea where anything is. BIG MISTAKE... its parade time and wham you are stuck in a huge throng of people... while you or your hubby get to listen to your stomach growl. You finally get to shove your way threw a huge crowd that is amply incensed that you are shoving your way rudely through to get to a place to eat. You finally get to the place to eat and it is crammed full of people and is at least a half hour wait. You say to yourself, "wow this sucks". And unless you are either mahatma Gandhi, an incredibly mellow person, or on Thorazine you are finally getting pretty frustrated or worse still ...pissed off. Then in the heat of the day you or your husband says some asinine sarcastic or acerbic remark at the other and Wala!!! you are officially having a crappy day. All because you haven't the slightest idea of what you are doing or how WDW works.

The beauty of planning is not that you have to follow some order moment by moment. The beauty of planning is that you are better equipped to adapt as circumstances arise. The beauty of planning is the information you learn in the planning process. Nobody likes unpleasant surprises; they tend to ruin an otherwise ok experience....and if you don't plan and learn you for sure will have several unpleasant surprises on your trip.

In case anyone here reading this believes in spontaneity as I do... If you don't plan there will be little spontaneous and free flowing about your trip. Let me explain - one example. I used to be a professional musician and songwriter. I would practice the same musical scales at extremely slow speeds, highly disciplined, no originality, no emotion, and no fun. All work. Other musicians would rag on me for being an uptight guitar and song writing nerd. When I put together a show or concert we would play the exact same thing over and over and over again until we could play it with our eyes closed with earplugs so we couldn't hear. Now that is disciplined planning with nothing fun or spontaneous about it. But the result of that planning is it made it extremely easy for us to go off into musical solos and wail. The result of all that uptight planning was more spontaneity, greater flexibility, greater ability to adapt to others' mistakes or technical glitches, the ability to be freer to improvise, and a mind-boggling level of fluidness.

We had a saying - SPONTANEITY COMES WITH PRACTICE.

After all, if the G string on your guitar flies off and smacks you in the eye and you built 1/3 of your solo around your G string you are in deep trouble unless you are so well versed that you can close your eyes, adapt, improvise and wail like a mutha while shifting your entire solo into a one handed solo so you can continue playing effortlessly while you simultaneously change your string. And that kind of spontaneity doesn't come from being a free spirited undisciplined person all the time. It comes from practice and planning. It is the difference between not knowing how to adapt to a negative situation, or being able to take any negative situation and with ease turn it into a positive. Its the difference between boos or screaming fanatical applause.

It isn't fanatically sticking to the plan that matters. It is the process of planning that matters. It is that process that gives you the insight and ability to adapt, to be more flexible, and to be more fluid, and paradoxically to be more spontaneous.
 
My husband is getting use to my planning, but he started out alot like yours. I just don't include him in the planning. He doesn't care anyway. I just outline the general things we will do each day (park, PS, pool time.....) and let the rest fall where it may. Then before we go to bed on Thursday, I say where we are spending Friday. To him it is still "as we go" :cool1: and to me it is PLANNED OUT! :wizard:

My husband also likes to sleep in. That is fine with me. My daughter and I will head to the park, and he meets us there. I carry my cell phone and he calls me when he gets to the park. We meet and enjoy the rest of the day. I have to remember that it is his vacation also, and to him, sleeping in is the best thing in the world. :angel:

Just a thought on the water parks....since you have done TL, then only make it a half day for you and do the other half at Blizzard Beach. And if your husband isn't crazy about doing the park, book him a fishing trip. Remember it is a VACATION. Sometimes the family may need some time apart. :love1:

Have a great time. Plan what you want. It will all work out.
 
We used to plan to the minute 30 years ago when the children were with us. Now, its laid out to what park each day and where we will eat close by so as not to be running all over creation from parks to meals. We never visit the same park in one day, we split parks each day and spreads our meals into 2 areas. We always have one down day in a vacation for shopping, swimming etc and its a big park break. We list our favorite eateries, length of stay, how many breakfasts, lunches and dinners and co-incide them with the parks we'll be in for the day . thats it and the whole thing can be shifted from one day to the next but its our plan, no questions in the am and PS's if needed are done the night before, never had a problem!
 
Let me ask you this- How many times have you been? Is this your first time?

I say you do like I do, and plan out everything yourself. Obviously he isn't as into the planning aspects as you are (just like my DH), but loves the "playing" aspects (like my DH ;) ). I actually don't mind it. He knows how much I love doing the planning and such, and leaves it in my hands. I might give him a couple choices as to which resturant he would like to eat at, but other than that, I ask him nothing more.

With that being said, that's how we did it the first 2 times! Last year and this year we just went! LOL...I know...CRAZY! Of course the necessities are done- transportation, resort, air, and a few PSs, but now we just go! We are going to do EMH one night for MK, but no other planning is needed for us, now that we know what to expect!
Good luck marriedmarylander :wave2:
 
pumpkinfish said:
Let me ask you this- How many times have you been? Is this your first time?

It's our first time together. Last time he went he was 13. Last time I went I was a young adult but was with parents and little sister. I took no part of planning that last trip - I just went along with everything.

I guess I should plan out one park a day, but not the times and not any extras like pool time or shopping :) Actually in most vacations we've been on my DH has said to me in the morning "So what do you want to do today?"... So I can plan and when we get there I'll just say "Magic Kingdom" or whatever :rotfl:
 
I think it really depends on "how many" of you there are. With lots of people that want to do lots of things, I'm commando all the way, BUT if we miss something, the important thing is having fun.

If it's just me and hubby, well, then we make sure that things we WANT to do are planned in there. Like I WOULD plan the things you mentioned, because you really want to do them and it will TAKE some planning to make sure it runs smoothly.

I do have to admit that this December was the first of our trips that I planned VERY little. We were not real good at "getting up "whenever", and doing "whatever". Even though I have a huge wealth of "planning info" in my head, right at my disposal, things didn't run as smoothly. BUT it was just hubby and me and we were just there to relax. But we definitely are not real good at the "not planning" plan!!!

If it's just you and hubby, "mini plan", for the things you want to do, he'd like to "sleep in", do that too!!! I have to admit, it really WAS WONDERFUL, sleeping in at DisneyWorld. I almost felt "sinful"!!! :blush:
 
I say it depends on a lot of factors. Time of year, how many times you have been to Disney, what you want to see, your touring style, etc. i usually schedule the main things, those I need to arrange in advance and then play it by ear from then one.
 
Okay take it from the queen of spontaneity, you are not overplanning! This is coming from someone who's nickname is random, who is told by nearly everyone she meets that the only thing that is predictable about her is that she is unpredictable, apparently my whims change on the fly and on vacation it's even worse b/c it's impossible to predict what I'll want to try next. (Don't ask, long story involving sharks in the D.R. LOL)

Someone else summed it up perfectly. Planning is a way of internalizing information. I've been to Disney 11 times and while I could navigate the parks in my sleep, I am still learning new things now that I have discovered the disboards.

Face it, no one will ever know everything about Disney World. The hours change, new rides get added, there are these wonderful creations of codes that I only wish I had known about sooner, there is a shark reef at Typhoon Lagoon (A must do and for $20 you can spend extra time with them, extra time being 30 minutes continuously after the others are all out of the water.), and without planning you would never find out about all of these wonderful extra things about Disney!

Now planning every second seems a bit much for some people. For many going commando on vacation is great, but the problem is not everyone in their family is going to be happy. And by commando I mean having 2-3 PS ressies a day, waking up at a specific time and going to sleep at a specific time each day, every park planned out for every day, alloted swim time, pre-planned menus (excluding those with food allergies b/c sadly I've wound up in this pre-planned meal category this time around! Lol), what souvenirs can be bought planned ahead of time, etc. Hopefully you get the idea. Thats fun for some people but for a lot of people like your husband and my family even a tast of that feels a bit stiffling. What if you have a whim to try out a short wiat for a new ride but your PS is in 5 minutes on the other side of the park! :crazy: This is the mode I would enter:
"OMG were on vacation! Decisions were supposed to be left at home! I shouldn't be forced to decide between things here! AHHH!!! No...freedom....to...change things....around... AHHH!"

Yeah, so for odd balls like me, who are indecisive and like to change their minds a lot, that is what a lot of planning does to us, even if we are not the ones doing it. However it sounds like you are just learning everything you can about the parks and legitimately picking a day for Universal, which you need to do ahead of time regardless! Just make sure your husband knows that there is plenty of room for flexibility and changing thigns around once you guys get there if you guys feel the need to. A lot of people feel pre-planned events are set in stone when they truly are not. Like were doing a lot of planning for our honeymoon, finding out about the new hotel were staying at, the new attractions, where its safe for me to eat so I dont get poisoned, where I can find Stitch, and Tink to hurt her jealous winged behi...

Again you get the idea. ;) Planning is necessary for a huge place like Disney. It only becomes too much when people start feeling that their itenerary MUST be stuck to undre all circumstances. That is not what you are doing. You are just planning so no worries. :cool1:
 
You've recieved a lot of good advice. I say to plan, but just don't micro-plan. Pick what parks you'll do which days and leave it at that.

I will tell you this. Our last trip was a quick four days during an extremely slow time, so I kind of left things up in the air, and let the family decide what we'd do. DISASTER! The kids fought about where to go, DH was bull that I wanted to see Wishes instead of riding rides during it. Yuck!

When you have a plan, and everyone knows what it is, it's much more pleasant. DD wants to go to MK? We're going Tuesday. DS wants to do Star Tours? MGM tomorrow, pal. DH is draggin? Resort day on Thursday. It really works for us, because everyone knows they will get to do what they want AT SOME POINT during the week.

And the last day, I leave open. We vote, over breakfast, which park to end our stay with. So, I don't appear to be a total control freak. LOL!
 
I'm going to throw a monkey wrench into this thread. I see no reason at all to plan ahead any more. We have been twice in the last year and a half, have been to each of the parks twice, now know where everything is, what we like and don't like, so having to make a plan is useless. It is after all a vacation. We spend most of our lives going comando each day we live, i.e., wake up, breakfast, dress, go to work, lunch, go home, make and eat dinner, evening activity, go to bed, start again the next day. What I love most about Disney World is being able to leave that life behind while I'm there. So we have decided on our next trip, no planning. We have a week, so we will be able to go to all four parks, one water park, the boys will do Disney Quest, and DW and myself will get some rest. Which day we do what doesn't matter, we will decide that while we eat breakfast each morning. We don't do PS's, so we don't have that to lock us into a certain park on a certain day. I would think many of these habitual planners would be surprised how nice the trip could be without having to be at point A at such and such time, then on to point B, and so on. Unless you have at least 2 days at every park, you can not do everything that each park has to offer anyway. If you must plan, go ahead, nothing I say will change your mind. But if your unsure, don't feel like you have to, I think your experience will be just as great. JMO :earsboy:
 
Here is how it works for us:

DH: Well, we are going to WDW in two weeks, is everyone ready?
DW: I have to make the plans.
DH: Better get going, you know how important that is.
(DW exits room.)
DD: Dad, you know she'll produce a 45-page itinerary again.
DH: Yes, we do need that plan.
DD: But, dad, she will make us memorize it again.
DH: Well, we have to know exactly what we are going to do, and besides that is a useful mental exercise.
DD: But, dad, you always tear up the plan and ignore it once we get there.
DH: I know, but don't tell mom that.
 
I was looking at the pictures of our very first trip, prior to me finding the DIS. My husband is looking at the map in every single one. It is quite funny. We hardly saw anything that trip. We didn't get to the parks until 11:30 or so and found it to be too hot and crowded to enjoy anything. My husband expects a good plan now. He had seen the before and after. He knows that if we plan to get there early and have an afternoon break, the kids are happy and we get to see everything that we want.

Good Luck and we will send some Pixie Dust your way.
 















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