How much would you pay for extra FP+s or even unlimited?

I wouldn't pay anything either, but I am not as convinced as some others that this is ever going to be offered this directly. There are a lot of other ways for Disney to use FPs as an enticement to spend money on something else. The most often cited one is giving more FPs to onsite guests than offsite, and/or to give more based on the level of onsite resort. Another that I have thought about is to allow an extra FP or two in a second park for guests who have AP or park hoppers. Some people have concluded that Disney is trying to discourage hopping by limiting FPs to one park per day. But, there is no reason to assume that things will stay that way forever. And I don't think Disney added buses directly between the parks if they didn't expect them to be used. If Disney offers another FP or two in a second park (including a tier 1 FP in the second park) that might encourage people to buy the hopper option, and that just helps Disney achieve their goal of spending a lot of time on Disney property. This would be similar to what Universal is doing by putting the new Harry Potter Diagon Alley in the Universal Studios park. Anyone who wants to see both Harry Potter areas, and ride the Hogwarts Express between them, has to have a two park ticket. Disney does not have the market cornered on "shameless money grabs", even in the theme park business.

I like where your head's at. And ITA.
 
They're never going to sell them like that (IMHO of course). They are going to use any extras they have as incentives to stay onsite in their overpriced hotel rooms.

But to the question...Not sure. Even a number like $5 for a tier 1 ride sounds reasonable, but when I multiply times the number of people in my family times the number of rides, it adds up to a scary number for me.
 
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FOTL is included with room key at Universal so I have never paid for fast pass and would balk at Disney adding this on to the price of admission.
 
I wouldn't pay anything either, but I am not as convinced as some others that this is ever going to be offered this directly.

There are a lot of other ways for Disney to use FPs as an enticement to spend money on something else. The most often cited one is giving more FPs to onsite guests than offsite, and/or to give more based on the level of onsite resort.

Another that I have thought about is to allow an extra FP or two in a second park for guests who have AP or park hoppers. Some people have concluded that Disney is trying to discourage hopping by limiting FPs to one park per day. But, there is no reason to assume that things will stay that way forever. And I don't think Disney added buses directly between the parks if they didn't expect them to be used.

If Disney offers another FP or two in a second park (including a tier 1 FP in the second park) that might encourage people to buy the hopper option, and that just helps Disney achieve their goal of spending a lot of time on Disney property.

Now this is a viable idea, including a FP+ at a second park if you have purchased the Hopper Option. That makes total sense in many ways.


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I have a hard time wrapping my mind around this concept or rumor that seems to continue?

They are only so many spots on the rides they can not magically make more no matter how much money they want to make
. The math has been done before there are so many spots per hour vs so many visitors, with so many fastpasses being handed out (3per visisitor) coupled with those who are using DAC (no doubt to fluctuate) how would they sell extra fast passes? ON top of that if they were to charge for extra fast passes I would think DAC abuse would put GAC abuse to shame.

Agree. There is only so much capacity which is probably one reason the limit even came into play to begin with. Many more will use FP+ because you can book in advance than used FP-. You can't increase ride capacity without increasing hours. Also agree that DAS would become as burdened as GAC.

Charging for FP+ would take this in a negative and complicated direction. There are many ways to adjust it with seasons, hoppers, tiers to create more FP+ availability.
 

Like the express pass plus that universal offers only with a deluxe room stay?

Even universal has exclusions right? Harry Potter rides?

Disney already watered down the FP+ too much to have the equivalent of Universal's plan. I think a lot more people would be willing to pay if the lines weren't being inflated by people using the free ones. That's where universal is different. You have to pay for it but those lines are short and only used by people who everyone knows are also paying. Petty people don't have to stand in a line next to someone that they believe is feeling too entitled.

Yes, exactly like the Express Pass they have at Universal, or like the pass they charge for at Cedar Point or countless other theme parks. If I recall correctly, Disney is the only park who offered a fastpass like thing for free to all its guests and I am sorry to see that go.

If you want to call me petty for my opinion you can go right ahead, it really doesn't bother me at all.
 
I like the tiered idea, but I would never pay for extra FPs directly. Some of the most fun times J&I had were waiting in lines... of course, the longest line we had to wait for was about 25-30 minutes.
 
Yes, exactly like the Express Pass they have at Universal, or like the pass they charge for at Cedar Point or countless other theme parks. If I recall correctly, Disney is the only park who offered a fastpass like thing for free to all its guests and I am sorry to see that go. If you want to call me petty for my opinion you can go right ahead, it really doesn't bother me at all.

It wasn't directed at you, it was directed at the people who are going to say "sure I'll pay but then I shouldn't have to stand next to someone who's getting it for free including the disabled."

I don't believe that's what you were saying.
 
It wasn't directed at you, it was directed at the people who are going to say "sure I'll pay but then I shouldn't have to stand next to someone who's getting it for free including the disabled."

I don't believe that's what you were saying.

No, that's not what I was saying. I misunderstood what you meant. My apologies.
 
I wouldn't pay any extra.

We've never been huge fast past users because we always go during the off season and lines have just never been that long. And, frankly, if July 4th was the only time we could go, we'd probably skip it and just wait for more convenient timing.
 
I wouldn't pay anything either, but I am not as convinced as some others that this is ever going to be offered this directly.

There are a lot of other ways for Disney to use FPs as an enticement to spend money on something else. The most often cited one is giving more FPs to onsite guests than offsite, and/or to give more based on the level of onsite resort.

Another that I have thought about is to allow an extra FP or two in a second park for guests who have AP or park hoppers. Some people have concluded that Disney is trying to discourage hopping by limiting FPs to one park per day. But, there is no reason to assume that things will stay that way forever. And I don't think Disney added buses directly between the parks if they didn't expect them to be used.

If Disney offers another FP or two in a second park (including a tier 1 FP in the second park) that might encourage people to buy the hopper option, and that just helps Disney achieve their goal of spending a lot of time on Disney property.

This would be similar to what Universal is doing by putting the new Harry Potter Diagon Alley in the Universal Studios park. Anyone who wants to see both Harry Potter areas, and ride the Hogwarts Express between them, has to have a two park ticket. Disney does not have the market cornered on "shameless money grabs", even in the theme park business.

I agree with you however I have to say if Disney were to offer another FP or two in another park, the Disney experience would still feel incredibly broken to me. With only one FP now, because lets face it the other two don't count, well I still can't hardly believe it :sad2:.

I personally would never, ever pay for additional tickets if they are offered in anyway other that to onsite guests. I always stay value so if they tiered them so that the more expensive resorts would get more, I would most likely turn the other way and stay offsite lol! In solidarity with the locals, and because I live overseas and staying in a more expensive resort is out of my range.

Seriously the whole idea of any additional cost to guests so that their parks are actually doable is just a huge turn off to me. I'd rather visit Universal during off season or bless them, Disneyland until they break that park as well!
 
I would never pay more than the price of buying an second ticket. That would give me the ability to hop and get up to 6 FPs, and even this superuser could make peace with that. I doubt I would ever actually buy that second ticket..... but I'm just saying I think the price of a second ticket would be a good place to start as a ceiling.
 
I agree with you however I have to say if Disney were to offer another FP or two in another park, the Disney experience would still feel incredibly broken to me. With only one FP now, because lets face it the other two don't count, well I still can't hardly believe it :sad2:.

I personally would never, ever pay for additional tickets if they are offered in anyway other that to onsite guests. I always stay value so if they tiered them so that the more expensive resorts would get more, I would most likely turn the other way and stay offsite lol! In solidarity with the locals, and because I live overseas and staying in a more expensive resort is out of my range.

Seriously the whole idea of any additional cost to guests so that their parks are actually doable is just a huge turn off to me. I'd rather visit Universal during off season or bless them, Disneyland until they break that park as well!


.........especially considering how recently unlimited FPs were free.
 
I might be the minority here but I am with the people who say they would pay extra. If they offered some type of VIP ticket where we just got to go into the FP lane for every ride all day long for the length of my trip, I would find a way to cough up the money for this.

But I am not sure Disney would go this route cause I think you could then do a lot more of Disney in one stay and would be a little less return or less frequent return. We refuse to wait in line over a certain time...I think 20 minutes is about our limit. Now having said that, we have been very fortunate with the times of year we have gone, with getting FP+ in December (we were not restricted to tiers) and have been able to ride (multiple times) the big attractions.

But when I go to Six Flags I pay for the front of the line. We personally like it.
 
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Tho this is not really a relevant question because it's not where FP is headed. Disney's goal in "inventing" FP- and now FP+ is not to get any small group of ppl on all the rides they want. Rather it is to get the majority of ppl out of lines and in shops, restaurants and pool bars spending incrementally more.

Besides. FPs are already unlimited. You just have to book an unlimited number of days. Want 3 more? Book another day! It's that easy. So figure the price of 3 FP's (12 FP's if you have a family of 4?) is about the cost of a night in a value resort at DW. Only they're throwing in a free room.
 
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I have a hard time wrapping my mind around this concept or rumor that seems to continue?

They are only so many spots on the rides they can not magically make more no matter how much money they want to make.
This is exactly right, and it is stunning that so many people think that extra FP+s is the key to park touring success. A lot would have to change before an increase in the net number would make a difference. First, they would have to eliminate "tiering". Second, they would have to eliminate the prohibition against repeating attractions. As it is right now, FPs for the most popular attractions are "selling out" or are close to it by noon. So giving you more passes would simply enable you to use them for rides that don't need them.

Take Epcot as an example. If a person with 3 FP+ now uses one for Soarin', one for Spaceship Earth and one for Mission Space, and you gave them three more, what would they use them on? Captain EO? Turtle Talk? Living With the Land? If tiering was removed, you could add Test Track. Once. OK. I can see how this would be a benefit, although the person described above probably went to TT at park opening and only waited 15 minutes in line. So a 4th FP+ would allow you to sleep in a bit. Is that worth $100 per day? Are the FP+s to Captain EO and Turtle Talk worth $100 a day?

I suspect that Disney will hear the complaints and bump the number up to 4 per day as it was in part of the testing phase. But I don't think much else is likely, or, frankly, warranted.
 
This is exactly right, and it is stunning that so many people think that extra FP+s is the key to park touring success. A lot would have to change before an increase in the net number would make a difference. First, they would have to eliminate "tiering". Second, they would have to eliminate the prohibition against repeating attractions. As it is right now, FPs for the most popular attractions are "selling out" or are close to it by noon. So giving you more passes would simply enable you to use them for rides that don't need them.

Take Epcot as an example. If a person with 3 FP+ now uses one for Soarin', one for Spaceship Earth and one for Mission Space, and you gave them three more, what would they use them on? Captain EO? Turtle Talk? Living With the Land? If tiering was removed, you could add Test Track. Once. OK. I can see how this would be a benefit, although the person described above probably went to TT at park opening and only waited 15 minutes in line. So a 4th FP+ would allow you to sleep in a bit. Is that worth $100 per day? Are the FP+s to Captain EO and Turtle Talk worth $100 a day?

I suspect that Disney will hear the complaints and bump the number up to 4 per day as it was in part of the testing phase. But I don't think much else is likely, or, frankly, warranted.

Oh damn. I just woke up. I didn't even realise, didn't think! Of course, now everyone, pretty much, will be using FP and with booking in advance..! There are not enough seats! They would have to build that fifth gate if I want a higher FP allowance, and that probably still wouldn't have much effect... Ugh. Now I agree that they want us in the shops spending money, but to me it seems that there's more chance everyone will standing in lines instead.

I feel terrible for the people who never got to experience Disney before this system was put in place.
 
As a previous poster suggested, I have actually thought about buying 4 tickets (its just my DH and I) instead of 2 and not buying hoppers like we always do and using the second MBs at the park we'd usually hop to.
 












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