How Long Will WDW Prop-Up Attendance With Deep Discounts? (Orlando Sentinel article)

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By Jason Garcia
Sentinel Staff Writer
July 24, 2009

The Walt Disney Co. has managed to keep its theme parks filled so far this year with a series of deep discounts that have helped lure travelers despite the global recession.

The question now, company watchers say, is how long will Disney have to continue using promotions to prop up attendance?

The booking window for Disney's current marquee offer — free dining for guests who book five-night Walt Disney World vacations for travel from late August until Oct. 3 — is set to expire this weekend. But Disney recently began contacting some customers with offers of free dining for travel as late as mid-December, prompting speculation that the resort is about to formally extend the promotion or replace it with a new offer.

With the battered economy showing few signs of an imminent rebound, some analysts say Disney has little choice but to continue discounting if it wants to keep its theme-park turnstiles clicking.

"Without an economic recovery in sight, we believe Disney cannot afford to let demand fall in the December quarter," Richard Greenfield, a stock analyst who covers Disney for Pali Capital, wrote earlier this month on the firm's research blog.

By continuing widespread discounts, however, Disney would be wielding a doubled-edged sword.

Further promotions would likely help Disney World and Disneyland in Anaheim, Calif., continue the resilience they have shown during the recession. Attendance at the parks has remained relatively flat with last year's levels, while rival operators such as NBC Universal have suffered double-digit percentage declines.

Disney executives have made sustaining attendance at their theme parks a top priority during the downturn, noting that the parks both depend on strong word of mouth from satisfied tourists to fuel future visits and serve as important brand builders for properties ranging from Toy Story to Tinker Bell.

But analysts say the longer the Disney parks use discounts to drive traffic, the greater the risk that the parks are simply cannibalizing future business. Promotions can wind up persuading vacationers who were planning to take trips later to travel immediately instead, leaving a hole in future demand.

That is one reason why everyone from company investors to tourism promoters will be listening closely for clues about future booking patterns when Disney reports its third-quarter earnings next week.

"Forward-booking insight will help investors determine whether demand has been 'pulled forward' or if Disney has balanced pricing and demand," Michael Morris, a media analyst for UBS Securities, wrote in a July 17 research note.

Morris thinks that attendance at Disney World — where many current tourists are still benefiting from the seven-nights-for-the-price-of-four hotel package Disney offered earlier this year — actually inched up 1 percent during the March-through-June period, which is the third quarter of Disney's fiscal year. But he predicts attendance will fall by 5percent from July through September, Disney's fiscal fourth quarter.

Another risk of lingering discounts is that tourists could come to expect a certain level of bargain in the future. Greenfield, of Pali Capital, said he thinks fear is partly why Disney is more likely to extend the free-dining promotion rather than bring back the seven-for-four hotel deal, even though Greenfield said he thinks the hotel offer "stimulated far more demand" than the free-dining packages.

"We suspect Disney is fearful of maintaining a promo for too long, as it will be hard to remove the discounting in the future if consumers come to expect a certain promotion," Greenfield wrote.

Disney executives say they have been mindful of the long-term effect of promotions. At a conference last month, Disney Co. Chief Financial Officer Tom Staggs said the management of Disney's Parks and Resorts division "is being very thoughtful and deliberate about the type of offer they put in the marketplace."

He pointed out that Disney has offered both the seven-for-four and free-dining packages in the past, though not necessarily for as long as they have this year.

"I think that our ability to price it appropriately from where the marketplace is will continue," Staggs said. "And by that I mean, as we see recovery, I think that we will have the opportunity to be less aggressive on promotions, when that point comes."
 
It's going to be interesting to see if discounts will be as plentiful next year as they have been this year.

Thanks for sharing this info!
 

MariaEllerºoº;32868022 said:
It's going to be interesting to see if discounts will be as plentiful next year as they have been this year.

Thanks for sharing this info!
You're welcome - from NOVA.
 
Great thead and it got me thinking of how many will not go to disney if a discount wasn't offered. That might be a problem as well. Me personally I travel to disney with or without a discount.
 
We have never stayed on property without a discount, free dining or some other promotion.....so I hope they continue to give out discounts or other perks for staying on site, otherwise it makes no sense to pay $$$ for a hotel room to sleep and shower in, when we're there for the parks. We can buy tix at a discount, find a cheaper hotel offsite and most hotels still give you the option of shuttle service.

We do enjoy staying onsite, for the atmosphere but seriously....the cost is always our deciding factor, then the convenience of staying onsite comes in. Free dining still is borderline with what we'd pay offsite for a hotel and food, but we factored in the convenience of not having to drive, park, carry cash for food...etc and decided the small difference in cost was worth it to stay onsite. With no discount it would be a no-brainer :)
 
We have never payed "rack rate" to stay at Disney either. Discounts have been plentiful in my 30 years of visiting Central Florida. Disney dining does not bring me back, as I find the food quality to be very average. It's the deep room discounts that I find worthwhile for my family.

:goodvibes :goodvibes
 
We are planning a trip for September 2010. However, if they don't offer Free Dining, we'll have to seriously reconsider. I never get pin codes, so we count on the Free Dining being offered. I'll just be crossing my fingers next spring for news.
 
We plan and save for our Disney trips, so while a promo or discount will lengthen our stay -- it won't dictate if we go or not. We've been lucky the last few trips with codes and promos so our trips have been longer than normal, but previously we've had 7 day trips that were wonderful and we had no discount.

The article was very interesting though. Thanks for posting!
 
We are planning a trip for September 2010. However, if they don't offer Free Dining, we'll have to seriously reconsider. I never get pin codes, so we count on the Free Dining being offered. I'll just be crossing my fingers next spring for news.

I would bet that there will be free dining for next fall. Thats when we are planning on going back. But the first week in December is also very tempting, not real sure just yet. But I am not as certain of what type of discount they may offer next December. We will see.
 
Great thead and it got me thinking of how many will not go to disney if a discount wasn't offered. That might be a problem as well. Me personally I travel to disney with or without a discount.

I don't know if we'd always feel this way, but I can tell you that we definitely wouldn't be going this year if I hadn't received a pin code. We went last year for FD, had a great time, and were planning to go back in about five years. But I received a code, and to my surprise, DH told me to price it out! We ended up booking free dining, which is ideal for our family.

So I hope Disney keeps doing discounts. Maybe it'll mean we take another "what the heck!" trip next year. :cool1:
 
I have a feeling that as long as the economy is weak the discounts will have to continue if they want to keep everything hopping.
 
Ya, as long as the economy is weak, we will see discounts and probably a lot of them. I just wonder how long it will take for the fall free dining to be adjusted to the hotels levels as they are with the newest free dining offer for October, November and December.
 
The free food makes ADRs a hassle. I would rather see 4/3 or a great room rate. Get people in the door and they have to buy food.
 
I was lucky to get the Pin for FD before it was made available to the GP. With our Pin we are able to stay in a Value and still get the regular dining plan. If it was not for this Pin I would never have been able to convince the wife to go again this year. She wanted to wait a couple of years before we went back.

Now with the GP release I am a little worried about being able to get ADR's. I know that seems selfish....
 
I was lucky to get the Pin for FD before it was made available to the GP. With our Pin we are able to stay in a Value and still get the regular dining plan. If it was not for this Pin I would never have been able to convince the wife to go again this year. She wanted to wait a couple of years before we went back.

Now with the GP release I am a little worried about being able to get ADR's. I know that seems selfish....
Not a selfish thought - why don't you make all your ADRs right now online?
 
We're one of those families that was planning on a trip later on. We got a pin code for December and decided to take advantage.
 















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