How do you plan?

Bethany10

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I see many posts on here asking about how much time, critique my plan, so how do you plan for the "doesn't really need a minute to minute plan" parks?

We tried to wing it our first time out in 2019, and taking into account some family stuff that came up right before the trip (death in the family) and some physical limitations on my part I felt like not having ANY structure to our day led to us basically not doing much. I kept pushing to do more, but because I physically couldn't do it no one else was willing to either. As we plan for a very different return trip this summer it looks like crowds are going to be significant. I'm MUCH better physically than I was in 2019 and I'm ready to do a lot more than I was at that time.

this led me down the rabbit hole and I'm curious how YOU plan your trips. day by day, but open in the park? Minute to minute in the park? please share!
 
I plan the meals first, as that is always a priority with me and my family. We love specific restaurants at UO, so that is first. Next, we plan the most popular attractions for first thing in the morning. This means we try to hit them during early entry for hotel guests. (It always amazes us how many people arrive at the parks at 11 or 12 and whine about how long the lines are). We also try to plan at least one day where we go back and chill at the pool for a few hours in the middle of the day when it is likely to be crowded in the parks.
After that, we pretty much wing it, unless there is a special event we also need to plan for (AP party, etc.).
 
We are currently planning a trip for June. We are starting by planning the bone structure of a day. For example, parks early until lunch then grab lunch. Back to HRH for swimming until 5pm. Then parks and to dinner after. The rides themselves plan itself. We have a EP so that will help. We kinda go to a park and just keep going. I should say the one ride we will have a plan for is Hagrid's, oh, and the new Jurassic Park coaster if it is open. Other than that we do not plan.
 
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I should say the one ride we will have a plan for is Hagrid's, oh, and the new Jurassic Park coaster if it is open. Other than that we do not plan.

this is what I tried in 2019. I knew the kids wanted to do Harry Potter and that we wanted to try and get to opening as early as possible. By the time I could get everyone up and out the door the lines for the potter rides were over an hour wait. We just aren't morning people and it felt like something always got in the way. I really want to instill that we will hit the parks AT opening at least 1 if not 2 days and sleep in the other days. I'm hoping by saying on this day we will get to the park by x time, head straight for potter then have one more goal for the day that things will be smoother. It didn't help that I was in almost constant pain and not able to walk very fast when we were there in 19. (knee issues).
 

We’re doing three nights at Royal Pacific before our Disney trip in January, so we’ll have EPs. We usually check in early on checkin day, get our EPs and head to USF. We use our passes to ride what we want, and return to the hotel when our rooms ready, eat dinner there and explore resort. The next morning we do early entry to HP, and we make this our exclusive HP day where we only do both HP sections, eating in 3 Broomsticks and Leaky Cauldron. We may or may not return to resort for mid afternoon break, depending on how we feel. The next day we do IoA, usually returning to the room after toon lagoon to dry off and rest, then head back to park til we’re ready to quit. Our last day we’ll finish up whatever we didn’t get to do before we head over to WDW. Doesn’t really require much planning at all when you have express passes, and eat mostly counter service. The Touring Plans people do Universsl plans as well as Disney, so during busier times that could help structure your day. We love that Universal is so much less stressful than Disney.
 
It didn't help that I was in almost constant pain and not able to walk very fast when we were there in 19. (knee issues).
I hear ya Bethany. I have knee issues myself and walk really slow. I just let them walk faster and I catch up. See I don't actually ride rides, I'm there for the fun of the park and being on vacation. I have a love of all things theme parks but I do not ride anything. You may not be like that so it's harder to do and I understand that. My fam is a little easier in the morning so that helps us too. Anyway good luck and have a blast. I have been on a lot of vacations and I love theme parks. Such happy places. I hope you can enjoy yourself!
 
We usually check in early on checkin day, get our EPs and head to USF. We use our passes to ride what we want, and return to the hotel when our rooms ready, eat dinner there and explore resort.

We will be at RPR for 2 nights at the start of our trip. Where do you like to eat?
 
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We love Royal Pacific! It’s absolutely beautiful. I like Islands for dinner but the menu can be a little too exotic for some picky eaters. Jakes is great also.
 
Our first trip was pre-lockdown and I'd had Disney-level of planning. We walked in early afternoon on our arrival day and the family did NOT understand why I wanted to run immediately to Hagrid's because it had a 30 minute wait. This was Feb 2020 and that low was rare, never saw less than an hour after that. That darn Seussland was too darned attractive. That week they thwarted all my plans except for evening meals. But, Universal didn't really need planning.

Second trip was August 2020, and we had no plans. With social distancing, Q.S. lines went on forevvvvveeeeeer. Mid-trip we started to reserve table service meals mid-day.

Third trip is in a month. I really hope the crowds die down by then. I plan on having a reservation or at least a planned location for every meal. Which means planning to be in that park or our hotel by that meal.
 
Our first trip was pre-lockdown and I'd had Disney-level of planning. We walked in early afternoon on our arrival day and the family did NOT understand why I wanted to run immediately to Hagrid's because it had a 30 minute wait. This was Feb 2020 and that low was rare, never saw less than an hour after that. That darn Seussland was too darned attractive. That week they thwarted all my plans except for evening meals. But, Universal didn't really need planning.

Second trip was August 2020, and we had no plans. With social distancing, Q.S. lines went on forevvvvveeeeeer. Mid-trip we started to reserve table service meals mid-day.

Agree. We don't really plan at Universal outside our meals. With COVID stuff, we try to stay away from Counter Service as much as possible and book more TS. That being said, outside of a few restaurants, reservations are pretty easy to get even day of, so we are pretty flexible. We always stay Premier though with EP's, which are worth their weight in gold. I don't think I would enjoy Universal very much without those, but with I love it.
 
I do understand. The "where should we go next"? question gets old. But you also don't really need a strategic plan for efficiency outside of meals. I think once you figure out meals then you will at least have some touch points on your day- you have to be in a certain part of the park by a certain time. The rest will start to shape up.
The Orlando Informer website has some free sample itineraries if you want to use parts of those too.
 
I see many posts on here asking about how much time, critique my plan, so how do you plan for the "doesn't really need a minute to minute plan" parks?

We tried to wing it our first time out in 2019, and taking into account some family stuff that came up right before the trip (death in the family) and some physical limitations on my part I felt like not having ANY structure to our day led to us basically not doing much. I kept pushing to do more, but because I physically couldn't do it no one else was willing to either. As we plan for a very different return trip this summer it looks like crowds are going to be significant. I'm MUCH better physically than I was in 2019 and I'm ready to do a lot more than I was at that time.

this led me down the rabbit hole and I'm curious how YOU plan your trips. day by day, but open in the park? Minute to minute in the park? please share!
I started a thread on how I plan for our family of four: https://www.disboards.com/threads/how-i-plan-a-universal-trip.3794121/

Here is the synopsis:
1. Buy at least one AP
2. Book an onsite deluxe resort with APH rate to get EE and EP
3. Show up and enjoy

I agree that some planning for meals can be done, but it isn't like Disney. If you are willing to eat on off hours and are flexible where you eat, then you really don't need reservations. Certainly if there is a special occasion, booking ahead make sense. But I find that once we are there, the reservations tend to get in the way, forcing you to be at a certain place at a certain time.
 
hear ya Bethany. I have knee issues myself and walk really slow. I just let them walk faster and I catch up. See I don't actually ride rides, I'm there for the fun of the park and being on vacation.

I wish they'd be willing to do this! I either get pulled, which is a HUGE no on my end or they wait for me. Especially toward the end of the trip I'm like just go I'm looking around!

That darn Seussland was too darned attractive.

Ha! Seussland is my favorite part of the park. my thrill loving DS was like we have to go back to CITA mom! but 30 minutes for Hagrids is insanely short, I'd be all over that too.

The Orlando Informer website has some free sample itineraries if you want to use parts of those too.

I may check those out. If I go too deep into planning I'll get pushback. I was talking to DH about this last night and I need to make sure and level set my own expectations before we go so I'm not the one screaming this cost all this money, lets GO. He felt like we "did all this stuff" in 2019 and I'm going we did nothing. I need to find the middleground before the trip or it's going to blow up in my face.

No reservations here, in fact we didn't eat much more than snacks in the park in '19. We were so tired and needed to sit by the time we got to a meal we ate quite a bit in city walk. There are a couple of in park restaurants I want to try, so I'm going to see what's nearby and maybe plan from there.
 
Sorry for your loss, Bethany10.

My 2 teenagers and I are flying in and staying at the HRH next month for a week. Having planned so much for Disney trips in past years, I decided that there would be very little planning for this trip. Except for the travel part. The real planning was how to get to Universal from home and get back! Changes in flight times caused changes in vacation days and hotel stays but I finally nailed it all down. Unless they change planes on me again! We were supposed to go outside of USA for spring break but the CDC caused a change in plans. So I decided that Universal would have to do as a substitute.

My "plan" is to make a few dining reservations before we get there. Then it's early to the parks, pool breaks in the afternoons, and back to the parks until close. We have EP from staying at HRH so not concerned about long lines except for virtual ones for Hagrid and other rides if applicable. We've been to Universal before so no pressure to do it all. My challenge will be to get the teens up early in the morning for the parks. (But they get up early for school, so why not for a fun day in the parks?) They take the word "vacation" too seriously. There appears to be a bit of a role reversal. I'm the kid now who wants to get up early and they are the parent who is in no rush at all!

Having said all of this, and having been shut down, locked down, quarantined and vaccinated, I will be satisfied spending time with my kids, not concerned about work or school, not worried about doing every possible ride and attraction in the parks, and being in the hotel pool every chance I get. :)

I hope you and your loved ones have a wonderful time when you go!
 
Currently reading reviews of US on Tripadvisor and man people are not happy! Long lines and unhappy with customer service. We are staying at SSR next February and have old tickets to use without EP. DH did not want to transfer hotels so we would have to pay for EP but it really seems the only way to go. We will also have to buy DD a ticket. I might just wait another year and save because I think that'll be pretty expensive.
 
We will also have to buy DD a ticket. I might just wait another year and save because I think that'll be pretty expensive.

I'd price out your savings if one of you was an AP holder. Then price out AP rates for one night at one of the EP hotels. Even if you don't use the room, the EP is worth it. Certainly compare costs of the room vs buying EP outright. Often the room is cheaper.
 
Currently reading reviews of US on Tripadvisor and man people are not happy! Long lines and unhappy with customer service. We are staying at SSR next February and have old tickets to use without EP. DH did not want to transfer hotels so we would have to pay for EP but it really seems the only way to go. We will also have to buy DD a ticket. I might just wait another year and save because I think that'll be pretty expensive.

You should be fine Feb 2022. We were there Feb 2020 and it was perfectly fine. We even got a couple of one-use express passes for being stuck on a ride. We didn't use them until the end because we didn't see the need. You are reading reviews of people going this Spring Break. It has been at capacity for pretty much all of the last several weeks.

There are some people that tell you you can't go without express passes. That means one of two things. Either they only go when it is super-busy (like right now), or they just got used to never waiting in line. I get it, you get used to certain comforts. DH and I were just talking about how we'll never buy another car without AC in the front seats and heat in the steering wheel. But does everyone really neeeeeddd that? No. Express Passes when the crowd level is <8 are as necessary as a heated steering wheel. I certainly wouldn't postpone going for a year just for that.

Also, by Feb 2022, you will be able to do the single ride lines when the wait is long. That worked perfect for us because the only lines with a long wait were those that had a height requirement of >48" and DD couldn't ride those. Also the family was only willing to ride Gringhotts 3X every early entry, so I'd do another 2 in the single rider line, while they wandered the HP area.
 
You should be fine Feb 2022. We were there Feb 2020 and it was perfectly fine. We even got a couple of one-use express passes for being stuck on a ride. We didn't use them until the end because we didn't see the need. You are reading reviews of people going this Spring Break. It has been at capacity for pretty much all of the last several weeks.

There are some people that tell you you can't go without express passes. That means one of two things. Either they only go when it is super-busy (like right now), or they just got used to never waiting in line. I get it, you get used to certain comforts. DH and I were just talking about how we'll never buy another car without AC in the front seats and heat in the steering wheel. But does everyone really neeeeeddd that? No. Express Passes when the crowd level is <8 are as necessary as a heated steering wheel. I certainly wouldn't postpone going for a year just for that.

Also, by Feb 2022, you will be able to do the single ride lines when the wait is long. That worked perfect for us because the only lines with a long wait were those that had a height requirement of >48" and DD couldn't ride those. Also the family was only willing to ride Gringhotts 3X every early entry, so I'd do another 2 in the single rider line, while they wandered the HP area.
Thank you for the reassurance!!
 
I found it helpful to half-plan so there is some sort of structure. One time I didn't, and it felt like a wasting away in a fluffy bed and TV. I also get a little nuts when it feels there is only one way to do it 'right' regardless of wallet size. There are so many ways to have a good time and it depends on family dynamics, time, and the money. I don't worry about specifics on where we eat other than a general area or time, e.g. We are going to eat lunch around noon and it can be on the way out of the park or Citywalk. The one mandate I have is that everyone must rest for two hours with no electronics. I don't care if you stare at the ceiling, it's quiet rest time. One time someone chose to not mind it and that husband was a poopy pants in the afternoon. Siesta means that if someone got up too early, they do get a nap instead of powering through all day.

So that I'm not the only one planning/choosing, I try to get them involved in selecting a couple places for meals the next day (on a rotation through the family), they have their faces in phones, might as well be on the app looking at dining :) They can choose if it is a must-do or here are a few places to eat depending on where we are when hungry. If you have family that getting up early is paying the iron price all day, maybe you can all agree to do early the first morning in the hotel? Then if you are staying longer, they may see the wisdom? Splitting up for early folks and sleepyheads might work and a meeting at X time at Y place? Splitting up might also bridge the 'we saw it all' and 'I missed it all' sentiments.

I see you are staying at RPR, that is going to make things so much easier with the express pass. I also like the location that it is pretty walkable if the boats are not running (we go in August which often has lightning). I wake up every day with hip pain (surgery 10 years ago went from excruciating to livable). RPR is the only bed I've slept on where I did not wake up in pain. Other onsite hotels were not as magical, so I know it wasn't the walking that cured it. I hope it is as soothing for your knees. I do bring a heating pad and big ziploc bags for ice.

For food, we ate oatmeal packets in the room so that we could maximize getting ready time with eating. I pack nuts and other snacks so that we can get get to lunch without whining (from the adults, no less!). Then lunch as I mentioned above. If it is super hot, inside for the AC (not sure how possible this is in a COVID world). Mythos, Burger Digs, Leaky Cauldron and Three Broomsticks have met these needs in the past. I like that at the HP places I can order sides to make a meal. Our family has also really enjoyed Breadbox. I hate sandwiches at home, but dang they are special at Breadbox (and it is cool and the bathroom clean). Moes / BK is also good for quick lunch if you have people in your party who want something different, but you want to eat together (and on a budget). Red Oven pizza's is also a hit as two can easily share and it's nice people watching. My one big thought on food at Universal is : why can't they make a decent chicken sandwich? Why are most of them with just mayo? Would it kill them to have some other flavor, yellow mustard packets don't cut it, I digress... Anyway, just know your budget & let others help take on some planning. Otherwise, let them know "I don't know" means Bethany's choice and no belly-aching allowed.
 












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