Hooters and teen boys

Well my mother recently took 14 DS to the one near us. It hasn't been open very long,and the although we are right near the home base, we never had one closer than 30 miles until now. DS loves hotwings nad has begged to go there since it opened. My mother convinced me to let her take him one sunday afternoon. While I wasn't there, as my mother put it "you know there aren't any bathing suit models around here". DS was mortified when all the girls gathered aroudn the neighboring table for someones B day. He's made me promise well never go there for his B day.
 
I've eaten at Hooters several times and have yet to see anything that I thought was degrading or insulting to women. Would I let my teenage boys eat there? Heck yeah, I'd even let my teenage daughter eat there, too. They see more skin when I take them to the beach.
 
I think Kirk gave you some excellent advice. Go to that restaurant yourself, have something to eat and just observe. Then you can make a decision with which you are comfortable.

I've never been to hooters but the photo that Bet posted looks like the young women actually wear a lot more clothing that I thought they would wear.

Has your son ever been to a football game or watched a football game on television? If he has he saw much more "exploitation" of women during half time than he will see at Hooters. Unless that photo is outdated and the servers are no longer fully clothed.

Ultimately, only you can make this decision, Tiggeroo. No matter what any of us here on the DIS say is right or wrong. Take Kirk's advice and go check the restaurant out yourself.

Your son <i>is</i> 16. He's no preteen, he's practically grown. My husband and I would have allowed Travis to go to this restaurant, but then, I wore hot pants in the 70's :earseek: and he married me anyway ;) I looked a lot better in the 70's than I look these days.

Good luck with this decision :)
 
Just a couple of thoughts...
IMO, women's breasts are hardly the eqivalent of men's genitals. And of course teenage boys are going to be more interested in the girls than the food! They'd be more interested in the girls than the food no matter where they are! I think it's all much ado about nothing. I've taken my 2 kids to Hooters when they were preschoolers, and there was nothing unwholesome about it. It's only a big deal if you make it a big deal.
 

If you've never been there yourself, like other's say, pop in for lunch and see what you think on your own. I've had lunch and dinner there myself. The wings are good, the rest of the food really isn't that great. The girls are cute, but the ones I've seen working are there to make tips for serving food. And that's basically all I saw them do. Wait tables. In shorts and showing a little cleavage. What's wrong with legs and cleavage? All women have it. All men look at it. Any man who says he doesn't is lying.

I would not allow my child to go to Hooters. I find the whole tight-top, short-shorts, "More than a Mouthful", hubba-hubba atmosphere insulting and degrading.

Insulting and degrading to whom? The girls who work there? Obviously not, or they wouldn't do it. The people who eat there? Obviously not, or they wouldn't eat there. So I can only surmise you mean insulting and degrading to you. In what way? How does it insult you? How does it degrade you? You're not the one wearing the shorts.

Their very work place uniform is meant to titillate.

Of course it is. That's the point. One of the reasons they are so successful.

I don't go to strip-joints and I don't go to Hooters.

Comparing Hooters to a strip joint is hardly fair. Hooters girls wear a tshirt that shows some cleavage and short shorts. They also wear support pantyhose under those shorts. They take your order and serve you drinks. They don't dance, sing or try to entertain you while you are eating. Since I would imagine you've never been to a strip joint, I can tell you that at a strip joint, those girls are all about dancing in your face for money. Depending on which state you live in, they can either go stark naked so you see everything, or some require them to wear thongs and pasties. There are rooms that you can pay extra to have one of them dance for you in private. They will dance on your lap, put their boobs and other things in your face and do everything but have sex with you. Comparing Hooters to a strip joint is hardly fair.

yeah to see how good it is to sit there and pay double the usual price to watch some jiggle

Again, I've never been to a Hooters where the girls "jiggle".

Ok you guys lets see how great the " real world" is, if say your 10- 16 yo daughter was working at Hooters and having real world experience having their goodies oogled by young men

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but your 16 yo daughters are being oogled by young men every day, whether you know it or not. And I believe you have to be 21 to work at Hooters.

In the news here in New York, 13 high school baseball players on a spring training trip in Cocoa Beach , Florida were suspended for the rest of the season , after school authorities found out they broke school and atheltic dept. code of conduct , when a parent took them to a strip club where they drank and had according to one of the students " some juicy " lap dances.

Again, Hooters is a restaurant, not a strip joint. Not a good comparison. And a very bad parenting choice. Not hardly what Tiggeroo has in mind.

the exploitation of women is what bothers me (& I know they work there willingly). It isn't what I'm about as a woman and definitely not what I want for my own DD.

Isn't it more about the exploitation of men and their desire to look at young flesh while having a beer and a couple of hot wings? They're the ones who part with the money; the girls are the ones who come out with the cash.

those are the women that fuel the fire that says we are nothing but sex objects

What's wrong with being a sex object? Sophia Loren, Marilyn Monroe, Betty Grabel... They all showed "flesh". Do you find them degrading too? They made alot of money showing off their bodies, did those of you who were 16 at the time not go to any of their movies?

Regardless of whether Tiggeroo lets her 16 yo son and his friends go to Hooters, those boys are still going to ogle young women. Use it as a teaching opportunity. Teach them there's nothing wrong with desire, admiring beautiful girls. The true test of a man or a woman comes in their ability to control those feelings and understand that they don't always have to act upon them.
 
I've been to Hooters. I don't see anything wrong there. Would I allow DS16 to go? Absolutely. He's a polite gentleman and I doubt a trip to Hooters would have any effect on that.

I'm thinking it's all about the NAME. I think there's a lot of establishments that only hire good looking candidates. I think this amounts to judging a book by it's cover!
 
"By the way, what would they call a male equivelant of Hooters? Any ideas?"

Peter's Hangout ?? :)
 
If you have a problem with Hooters then be sure not to let your child watch cartoon networks. Some of the cartoon characters wear short shorts and have some cleavage showing.
:p :p
 
Check it out for yourself first, and be sure you let the parents know where they're going (but that would be true of ANY place I'd send my kids to, not just Hooters).

Your son is 16 - you should be able to trust him and his actions at a restaurant, even if the waitresses are scantily clad.

I wasn't comfortable at Hooters, because I kept thinking of being dressed like that and making myself ill, at my size - LOL.
 
In shorts and showing a little cleavage. What's wrong with legs and cleavage? All women have it. All men look at it. Any man who says he doesn't is lying.

Would we see all this self righteous indignation if the girls were less attractive and flat chested? Maybe deep down there's a little envy and insecurity lurking.



:eek:
 
When I find out that the women that work at Hooters were brought there against their will and are being forced to work for free, then I'll be able to puff up my chest with an overdose of righteous indignation about their exploitation.

Until then, I'll just say if you don't want to go, then don't go. If you are offended by the female form, then by all means DON'T GO!!

And for all of you parents out there that are worried about your tender hearted 16 year old sons that have apparently never seen cleavage or nice thighs, I would suggest that you turn off the television and keep them away from movie theatres and sporting events.
 
I believe Dave Matthews said it the best

"Eat, drink, and be merry"

Hooters is a theme restaurant. Maybe some people go to look at girls, but I know a lot go to get a few beers, some wings, and watch games. As for "more than a mouthful", I can tell you that a girl that I am friendly with is only an A cup, and they let her work there. I know the tips are great there, and if I had the body, I'd be working there, too.
 
No, I must say I would not want my son to go to Hooters anytime! I used to go many years ago when going out with a group and that is where the group wanted to go. Now I have 3 daughters and I would never want them thinking that shaking your hooters in front of grabby drunks is a cool way to make money! I also don't want my son thinking that this is the image of the ideal woman. I realize these girls choose to work there, but women also choose stripping and prostitution and I don't find these acceptable either!!! True, I don't have a Hooter girl body and never have, but my daughters may some day! Also, it really has a BAR image and underage drinking is a really huge problem. BTW, no, my kids do not see unacceptable t.v., most of t.v. is garbage!! They have never seen anything other than family movies (mostly Disney!) and they do not listen to popular music. They don't really ask for these things as they know how we feel. We always say "GARBAGE IN, GARBAGE OUT!" Go ahead and take those boys to Hooters. The parents can just say NO if they don't approve! Oh gee, I forgot!, parents these days don't know how to say NO do they!! Just my opinion.....
 
Originally posted by laceemouse
Now I have 3 daughters and I would never want them thinking that shaking your hooters in front of grabby drunks is a cool way to make money! I also don't want my son thinking that this is the image of the ideal woman

I have never been to Hooters.....do the waitresses actually "Shake their hooters"???

:eek: :rolleyes: :smooth: :eek:
 
Let me just say that I really hope that my own daughter doesn't ever work at a place called "Hooters". Of course guys are going to check her out, even if she works at McDonald's - but at least there, they come in and "hey, look there's a good looking girl working the counter". Nobody PLANS to go to McDonald's to check out the women. I'm FAR from a prude, and we lead a pretty easy going lifestyle, but there is NO WAY in &^%$ I can ever imagine my husband approving of his little girl being a "Hooter Girl".:rolleyes:
 
(sticking my neck out here....)

I think it's too bad that we even have these types of establishments.

I believe in modesty in all parts of your life and this restaurant just isn't modest....whether it's worse/better than strip joints/sporting events/videos/TV, etc. it's NOT modest. Call me a prude....whatever you want but I wear decent clothes, listen to decent music/movies 24/7. Just because they wear more clothes than at other places doesn't make it better.

I can't tell you, Tiggeroo, what to do but personally I wouldn't allow any member of my family to go someplace that didn't reflect our standards (believe me that cuts back the places we go and that's disappointing to me). I would hope that my kids' friends would pick a place that EVERYONE would feel comfortable with so that those kids wouldn't be excluded. On the other hand, it would be a great opportunity for a young person to take a stand on something they believe in. :D
 
Can I go out on a limb and ask a few questions?

Would those of you that think Hooters is so degrading and wouldn't let your little girls work there, let your DDs model? Swimsuit Model? Enter beauty pagents? Wear a two piece bikini to the beach? Wear a thong bikini? Wear a shirt that shows her midriff?
 
I'll jump in Eeyore....nope, my daughters and I wear one piece bathing suits, we don't wear tank tops/sleeveless clothes or "belly shirts". We even go out of our way to find MODEST Barbie clothes and that is extremely difficult. They only have a few Barbies but they all have the same one-piece bathing suit. Shame on Mattel.....
 
Mitch, I'll stick my neck out and answer you. 'No' to the above questions. What she does when she moves out are her decisions. I don't consider myself a prude either. This has nothing to with religious beliefs at all, BTW. This is how my parents raised me. I don't find fault with anyone who eats at Hooters or lets their DDs work at Hooter's. I just answered the OP's question with how I feel about it. To each his own. It just isn't how I'm raising my DD to look upon her femininity.
 
Originally posted by Eeyore2U
Can I go out on a limb and ask a few questions?

Would those of you that think Hooters is so degrading and wouldn't let your little girls work there, let your DDs model? Swimsuit Model? Enter beauty pagents? Wear a two piece bikini to the beach? Wear a thong bikini? Wear a shirt that shows her midriff?

Can't speak for a DD since I don't have any right now, but as for me -- NO to all of those questions.
 












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