homeschool ? Please help.

My question was about those children who fall thru the cracks. Your answer was "they have portfolios and monitors for curriculum." I don't accept that as an answer, which is where we disagree. You quote pro HS statistics, which are quantifiable. Portfolios and curriculums are not quantifiable. Why the different standard?

I'd like to know what the big deal is to test your child. You've all claimed they are all above their grade level. They should ace those tests and be models of HS children - and proof that it works (not that it's needed). I would think you'd want that to eliminate the types of questions I ask.

You also keep referring to my agenda, and even said I had another id. That's quite insulting. I meant no harm nor insult to anyone, yet after saying it several times, continued to insist that I have a agenda.

Why do you folks get so worked up over something like this? Did I accidentally stumble upon a really sensitive issue? If so, why is it so sensitive? Seriously.



1. My child has been tested..I won't toot my own horn..but she is above grade level academically in all areas.

2. Not all families like testing. I do testing b/c my husband is an engineer and he wishes to have quantifiable data. I tell my kid to take the test for fun. If she doesn't know an answer...skip the question. I do not teach to the test. She will "fall through the cracks" on occasion b/c what WE decide to use as a syllabus from a private school in another state for a particular grade...just may no be what my county teaches.

However--I am still accountable for her education...but since I use something from another state developed by a private school..it isn't wrong...it is just different. It follows the classical model of education...something not prescribed to by my state for its public school pupils. In the end, it all comes out in the wash.:laundy:

My child is not a guinea pig for the rest of society. We should not have to follow your standards to prove that homeschooling works. That is the problem with standards...it doesn't work for everybody.

Each state has a law...and as with Traffic laws...some people just break it willy nilly. Yes folks will fall through the cracks and suffer. But stricter enforcement won't make it disappear. EDUCATION is what makes for change.

Don't take away MY rights just b/c some bonehead chooses to break the law by not following the laws of their state correctly when it comes to homeschooling their child.

Just like I would request you not petition for my right to drive my car be taken away b/c idiots out there like to run red lights. They don't always get caught...but one day they will. Hopefully it is before a tragedy happens.


Nobody is worked up over homeschooling. But you seem a bit confused as to what is going on--you have made claims in this thread that have not taken place. You were answered within 4 hours of your original post, but didn't like the answer. In seeking to understand....you keep referring to that small percentage that falls through the cracks. It happens in public schools everyday.

Just like the idiot who runs the red light when I choose to obey the law. Don't give me more law to follow in hopes that it will catch those few who fall through the cracks. They still will be falling without a net while I put up with more red tape.
 
However--I am still accountable for her education...but since I use something from another state developed by a private school..it isn't wrong...it is just different. It follows the classical model of education...something not prescribed to by my state for its public school pupils. In the end, it all comes out in the wash

I completely understand where you are coming from.
We too use the classical method (along with parts of the Charlotte Mason method). We teach geography along with history and use the classical timeline method. Therefore we haven't covered US geography yet.
I used a spectrum test practice book with DD before we tested. There were several questions that she didn't know the answer to because we don't cover the subject matter in 3rd grade. Yes they will eventually get covered, but not per the public school calendar.
 
That is the problem. It is the answer, but because you don't like it you refuse to accept it. However it is the answer.
Why the different standard? Because the laws are different in different states. Why do you fail to understand the concept of laws?

I know I have already addressed my objections to standardized testing, and I believe others have also. I even gave an example of how if we were in the state of NY, our home school could have been put on probation the end of our first yr because of how the state determines what grade a student would be in.

Since you quoted me, I will assume you were addressing me.
You are seriously confused or mentally ill if you believe I have ever said that you have another ID. There is no point even discussing HS'ing with you any more. You refuse or ignore answers that you don't like and make wild unfounded accusations.
I apologize. It was not you but another poster. However, that doesn't give you the right to call me mentally ill or confused. You never made a mistake like that in a very long thread?

As for the answers you are giving me, well, they're not really answers. You think what's being done is enough to ensure that some children don't fall thru the cracks and I don't.

That means we disagree - but to say I'm not listening to your answer is incorrect.

But you didn't answer almost any of the questions I've been asking.
 
1. My child has been tested..I won't toot my own horn..but she is above grade level academically in all areas.

2. Not all families like testing. I do testing b/c my husband is an engineer and he wishes to have quantifiable data. I tell my kid to take the test for fun. If she doesn't know an answer...skip the question. I do not teach to the test. She will "fall through the cracks" on occasion b/c what WE decide to use as a syllabus from a private school in another state for a particular grade...just may no be what my county teaches.

However--I am still accountable for her education...but since I use something from another state developed by a private school..it isn't wrong...it is just different. It follows the classical model of education...something not prescribed to by my state for its public school pupils. In the end, it all comes out in the wash.:laundy:

My child is not a guinea pig for the rest of society. We should not have to follow your standards to prove that homeschooling works. That is the problem with standards...it doesn't work for everybody.

Each state has a law...and as with Traffic laws...some people just break it willy nilly. Yes folks will fall through the cracks and suffer. But stricter enforcement won't make it disappear. EDUCATION is what makes for change.

Don't take away MY rights just b/c some bonehead chooses to break the law by not following the laws of their state correctly when it comes to homeschooling their child.

Just like I would request you not petition for my right to drive my car be taken away b/c idiots out there like to run red lights. They don't always get caught...but one day they will. Hopefully it is before a tragedy happens.


Nobody is worked up over homeschooling. But you seem a bit confused as to what is going on--you have made claims in this thread that have not taken place. You were answered within 4 hours of your original post, but didn't like the answer. In seeking to understand....you keep referring to that small percentage that falls through the cracks. It happens in public schools everyday.

Just like the idiot who runs the red light when I choose to obey the law. Don't give me more law to follow in hopes that it will catch those few who fall through the cracks. They still will be falling without a net while I put up with more red tape.
Thank you for your answer. I appreciate it. Was it such a big deal to test your child? I see that your husband wants quantifiable data also. I guess I'm not alone.

My further research here, and in other places has taught me a few things:

-there is no education requirment in the US only an attendance requirement
-there are 22 states that do not quantifiably ensure children are getting an education for children in private and home schools
-people in those 22 states can do whatever they wish with their children's education - positive or negative
-never attempt to address this issue with people who are homeschooling their children - some will get incredibly defensive

I get it, and I'm shocked. I had no clue and you all have enlightened me.

I also never said this sort of thing doesn't happen in PS - it does. But there is some sort of a quantifiable safety net to attempt to stop it.

I don't want to take your right away to send your child to private or HS and never did. Just give me a measurable way to ensure they are not one of the ones slipping thru the cracks.

I fully admitted in my first post I did not know much about this stuff and kept asking questions and yes, was perhaps confused.

Isn't that what you folks strive for? Children getting an education. Isn't curiosity highly valued rather than rote learning? Why is my curiosity and attempt to understand by asking more questions and even questioning your answers such a bad thing?
 

Did that keep you up all night? You looked it up at 5 in the morning. "Into" sounds better. JMO.

No, it didn't keep me up. Dog woke me up permanently at TWO in the MORNING! :mad: I posted at 3 (my time). Figured I might as well learn something in my boredom, so I looked up the answer.

Russa frassa DOG. :headache:

Brandie
 
My further research here, and in other places has taught me a few things:

-there is no education requirment in the US only an attendance requirement
-there are 22 states that do not quantifiably ensure children are getting an education for children in private and home schools
-people in those 22 states can do whatever they wish with their children's education - positive or negative
-never attempt to address this issue with people who are homeschooling their children - some will get incredibly defensive

I get it, and I'm shocked. I had no clue and you all have enlightened me.

I also never said this sort of thing doesn't happen in PS - it does. But there is some sort of a quantifiable safety net to attempt to stop it.

I don't want to take your right away to send your child to private or HS and never did. Just give me a measurable way to ensure they are not one of the ones slipping thru the cracks.

Isn't that what you folks strive for? Children getting an education. Isn't curiosity highly valued rather than rote learning? Why is my curiosity and attempt to understand by asking more questions and even questioning your answers such a bad thing?

Why oh why am I responding? I know I should just walk away. I will make one attempt and I promise myself I will walk away.

1. Please explain to me what the safety net is in public school? My daughter has a friend in our neighborhood. She was held back in 4th. grade and will be entering 6th. grade this year. Her reading is horrendous. From what I can see (no, I am not an expert) she is dyslexic. She has all the signs. How do I know? My son is dyslexic. Is she in a special reading class? No. Did she attend summer school? No. Did she even have homework over the summer? Nope. The school isn't doing anything for her. She passes each class by the skin of her teeth. It is honestly a joke. We went shopping the other day and a shirt was 20% off. She did not have a clue how to figure that out. When I gave her the answer, she used her fingers to subtract the amount from the total. This girl is falling through the cracks. She has already declared she will not go to college. She hates school. How is the school helping her? I ask again, what safety net is there?

You may respond that this is just one person and not the norm. Exactly! For the most part, the schools are doing the best they can. A few slip. For the most part, home educated kids are getting the best but a few fall through the cracks. It happens in every type of education and you are fooling yourself if you think the schools can and do prevent it.

2. You say we should, "Just give me a measurable way to ensure they are not one of the ones slipping thru the cracks." WHY? Do you also want statistics on every child in every school system to make sure there isn't a single one slipping through the cracks? Tell you what. Why don't you swing on by and take up the case of the public schooled girl in our neighborhood who is VERY clearly slipping through the cracks. When you are done, I will take you to Detroit (where I grew up) and find many, many people who are dropping out of school because they have slipped so far down the cracks.

3. Isn't that what you folks strive for? Children getting an education. Isn't curiosity highly valued rather than rote learning? Why is my curiosity and attempt to understand by asking more questions and even questioning your answers such a bad thing?
I can't speak for anyone else but I do not strive for "children getting an education." I strive for MY two children to be well rounded, compassionate children. I strive for MY children to receive the best education I can provide. I use whatever resources are necessary to make that happen. No, I can not be concerned for every child out there. Do I care? Of course. But I can not focus my time or energy on the child across the street. I am not sure why her parents are not more active in her education. I would be raising hell if my 12 year old read like she did.

Again, I only speak for myself but I do not generally feel it is my responsibility to educate others (adults or children) about homeschooling. I don't believe you are asking questions to further your knowledge about the subject. You are pulling out the statistics that suit your cause. Yes, 22 states do not have any regulations in place for homeschooling and that is your focus. But time and time again, you fail to admit that MANY public schools are failing. Instead, you insist they have safety nets in place. Please! Instead of seeing the truth, you claim homeschoolers are just defensive. It is hard not to be defensive when you continually find arguments against homeschooling yet you seem to think the public schools can't do any wrong. Oh sure, they fail on occasion but they have those great safety nets in place, according to you.

As a side note, I live in an "A" school district. However, 67% of the students that graduate from our "A" public schools need to take remedial college classes. Google the information about freshman entering college and see how many need remedial classes. If there are safety nets in place, why are there places where 80% of students need remedial classes in college?

Lisa
 
apologize. It was not you but another poster. However, that doesn't give you the right to call me mentally ill or confused. You never made a mistake like that in a very long thread?

As for the answers you are giving me, well, they're not really answers. You think what's being done is enough to ensure that some children don't fall thru the cracks and I don't.

That means we disagree - but to say I'm not listening to your answer is incorrect.

But you didn't answer almost any of the questions I've been asking.

You seem to be confusing fact with opinion.
You asked a question. I answered it. You didn't like the answer so you ignored it.
My answer to the question is correct. It is not my opinion that the laws are different in different state. It is the cold hard truth. It is not my opinion that some states require portfolios, assessments by independent teachers, a review of curriculum etc. It is the cold hard facts in the matter.
However because testing is the one and only factor you think is valid, you refuse to listen to the answer to you question. You asked for reasons as to why some do not like testing. Answers were given. You didn't like the answers so you claim your question was never answered

apology not accepted. You come on here blasting homeschooling. Refuse to listen to facts, throw around accusations etc.

-there is no education requirment in the US only an attendance requirement
-there are 22 states that do not quantifiably ensure children are getting an education for children in private and home schools
-people in those 22 states can do whatever they wish with their children's education - positive or negative
-never attempt to address this issue with people who are homeschooling their children - some will get incredibly defensive
Your definition of "quantifiable" means testing. That is you opinion. It is not a fact.
In some of those 22 states, yes there are no regulations or accountability for home schoolers. In most of those there is. You just don't like the fact that the accountability doesn't include a standardized test, so you keep saying there things like "they can do anything". However your opinion is not based on facts.

You lump together home schoolers and private schools in your post.
However there are many states that require standardized testing for home schoolers, but do not for private schools. In fact I don't believe that states can require much beyond the federal attendance laws. IE... I believe they can require that private schools follow nutritional guidelines if the private school serves meals.
 
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As a side note, I live in an "A" school district. However, 67% of the students that graduate from our "A" public schools need to take remedial college classes. Google the information about freshman entering college and see how many need remedial classes. If there are safety nets in place, why are there places where 80% of students need remedial classes in college?

Lisa

Do we live in the same district? I truly believe this is caused by the focus on standardized test. If I pulled my children out because of the test why would I consent to test them every year? I am one of the home school parents that will fight against yearly testing.
 
Can I put in my two cents as a homeschooled kid? This is really more of a personal rant and not entirely relevant to the discussion of whether homeschooling in general is bad or good, but the way we -my three siblings and I- are schooled just doesn't seem to be working. I don't feel like I'm getting anything out of it; the standards aren't high, we don't do enough work, it isn't focused enough... I know my mom has other stuff to do and taking care of four kids (three of whom are teenagers, even) is hard, but it seems like more weight could be put on getting a solid core education. I've started using the algebra videos on Free-Ed.net because my math skills are now and always have been pitiful, but doing it alone is hard. I'm not motivated enough, and trying to stay focused and retain everything isn't easy. There aren't any accompanying worksheets or anything, so to reinforce the concepts I have to go looking for math sheets on my own and don't really know what to look for. And that's just one subject; my writing skills, especially essays and the like, aren't up to par in the slightest, and history seems to have been overlooked for the most part, too. I don't feel like I'm learning anywhere near enough, and it's really depressing. But this is just my personal experience, and I'm not at all saying that homeschooling in general is bad. If done right (and with enough interaction with other kids; this is so important), it's an awesome option for most kids and I'd definitely encourage it. The correspondence/online classes seem like a great idea, and a homeschool group will help a lot. It's a great lifestyle, but it needs to be done right.

To the OP, I agree that it would be best to let your son try out public school for perhaps a year to see how he likes and reacts to it, and if he would rather homeschool at the end continue to teach him that way. At thirteen, he's definitely going to want more time to spend with friends and have a bit of independence, and this is a good way to see how he'd act and work in a different enviroment.
 
Thank you for your answer. I appreciate it. Was it such a big deal to test your child? I see that your husband wants quantifiable data also. I guess I'm not alone.

.....

Why is my curiosity and attempt to understand by asking more questions and even questioning your answers such a bad thing?

Your latter question first.....

It wasn't a bad thing. When you begin accusing others of being defensive when you have been given answers, that is a bad thing.



For your first question...

Not at all...it is offered by my homeschool group. I'd have to go and run and look at her test scores to see which testing service is used, but the service we use requires proctors and to be a certified proctor, one must have a bachelor's degree. So we have plenty of moms in our group who have been greenlighted by the testing service to proctor the exams and thus the exams "count" in the state of Florida.

However--even though I did have her tested....I did not submit the test scores to my county b/c I am not obligated to. I had a certified teacher review her portfolio and interview her and I submitted that certificate (or will be this week) to the county.

I don't see how that can be faked. (the time and effort it would take me to fake a portfolio--I might as well have my kid do the work. :confused: ) I do think what a child does in the classroom is more indicative of whether they are succeeding or not than a standardized test that is typically administered when there is 3 months left in the school year.

If my certified teacher cannot tell that my daughter's work is authentic, then she should not be certified as a teacher in the state. Just like teachers in the school system can't tell when mom and dad have offered more than just guidance on science fair projects.

We have her tested for our peace of mind---but the fact that she is reading books that 4th graders read....lets me know we are doing something correctly.
 
You seem to be confusing fact with opinion.
You asked a question. I answered it. You didn't like the answer so you ignored it.
My answer to the question is correct. It is not my opinion that the laws are different in different state. It is the cold hard truth. It is not my opinion that some states require portfolios, assessments by independent teachers, a review of curriculum etc. It is the cold hard facts in the matter.
However because testing is the one and only factor you think is valid, you refuse to listen to the answer to you question. You asked for reasons as to why some do not like testing. Answers were given. You didn't like the answers so you claim your question was never answered

apology not accepted. You come on here blasting homeschooling. Refuse to listen to facts, throw around accusations etc.
Wow.... just wow.

Yes, you answered and I don't think it's a valid answer. So what? You don't think my answers are valid. That's why people have different opinions.

If you think I came here to pick on home schoolers, you should find my first post and see that I'm truly shocked. Why in the world would I come to a Disney board, of all places, to pick on home schoolers? It simply does not make any sense.

But then again, it appears that some HS parents have major chips on their shoulders about how people percieve the way their children are being educated.

You never acknowledge that I have said the vast majority of HS and private school children are doing very very well.

You chose to see only the negative.

I'm sorry you don't accept my apology. But that says far more about you than I. Ditto for the rest of your posts and thinly veiled accusations and calling me mentally ill for confusing you with someone else. I hope this isn't what you're teaching your children. There is such a thing as manners - even online.
 
Your latter question first.....

It wasn't a bad thing. When you begin accusing others of being defensive when you have been given answers, that is a bad thing.



For your first question...

Not at all...it is offered by my homeschool group. I'd have to go and run and look at her test scores to see which testing service is used, but the service we use requires proctors and to be a certified proctor, one must have a bachelor's degree. So we have plenty of moms in our group who have been greenlighted by the testing service to proctor the exams and thus the exams "count" in the state of Florida.

However--even though I did have her tested....I did not submit the test scores to my county b/c I am not obligated to. I had a certified teacher review her portfolio and interview her and I submitted that certificate (or will be this week) to the county.

I don't see how that can be faked. (the time and effort it would take me to fake a portfolio--I might as well have my kid do the work. :confused: ) I do think what a child does in the classroom is more indicative of whether they are succeeding or not than a standardized test that is typically administered when there is 3 months left in the school year.

If my certified teacher cannot tell that my daughter's work is authentic, then she should not be certified as a teacher in the state. Just like teachers in the school system can't tell when mom and dad have offered more than just guidance on science fair projects.

We have her tested for our peace of mind---but the fact that she is reading books that 4th graders read....lets me know we are doing something correctly.
Thank you again for your thoughtful posts. I really do appreciate them.

The answers, to me, were not answers. IMHO, they were sidestepping the issue. Not that the requirements are not in place, just that portfolios, etc, can be faked. Not all at once, but perhaps over time.

My concern has always been, as well as the focus, not on the group of HS parents such as yourself that purchase materials and ensure your child is doing well. That's never been an issue. It's those children in states with little to no monitoring that concerned me.

I do get the general sense that the group of HS parents, on the whole, is so strongly in favor of it, they simply do not allow anyone else to express an opinion. Just look at the accusations and insults leveled at me.

Is my opinion that all children should be tested in a quantifiable way not as valid as yours?

I asked this question on another board that I frequent and I asked it the same way. It is a global board of mostly business travelers. Many of them have homeschooled their children.

What did I get? Thoughtful responses. Over 50 of them. Not a single one insulting me. Not a single one claiming that portfolios were equal to testing nor challenging my opinion. Some mentioned the same as all of you - failing public schools, not wanting gov't intervention, etc. but they also agreed there was a better chance of finding out about it in PS and trying to help. Those statistics are published, while most HS aren't.

Before you ask for a link to that thread, I would gladly give it to you, but it is a closed area of the board. There were problems with political trolls, so a minimum post count requirement was instituted to access that section.

Again, I thank you for your thoughtful response.
 
I don't see anyone getting worked up but you and your ability to blow it out of proportion. What are you digging for?

I'm not thrilled with standardized testing. I have two kids with learning disabilities. Testing for them is a nightmare. If you saw my daughter's scores, you'd think she was as dumb as a skunk.

You sound like testing is some sort of holy shrine. There are several different tests out there; many states do different ones at different times. How can you compare apples to oranges?
These people are not in charge of homeschooling the nation. A lot of people leave public school because of testing; because the class spend four weeks going over picture prompt essays and nothing else. If you ask the same question over and over again, the answer is not going to change. They don't set the rules up.

First off, this is a lovely post. Thank you.

Second as for the testing--from state to state, mandated testing varies. This makes sense as they have different learning outcomes for various grades. For instance, my sister used to teach 4th grade in CA. When I was schooling my DD in second grade, we decided to study the Gold Rush. I called Dsis to see if she had some resources for me. She had a lot but was very confused as to why I was teaching this in second grade not in fourth. Ummmm, because I can? :confused3 Sounded interesting to both DD and I??:confused3 She was concerned because she didn't want DD to fall behind on the testing. If she didn't know what she was SUPPOSED to learn for testing in second grade, what would happen? See, in CA the Gold Rush will not be covered in testing until 4th grade so Dsis didn't think DD needed that info yet. The test we use, as far as I know never has asked about the Gold Rush :thumbsup2 (I don't test them, a certified tester does.) However I do know that the standardized tests used in public school here in MN do not have anything about the CA Gold Rush on the 4th grade test. Both public schools, different tests.

As for the chips on our shoulders ;) You are asking us Mary, to give you an answer you want. (That is how it is coming across.) About people we don't even know. How are we supposed to do that? What you have been told time and again is that WE, here on this thread are doing what we need to do. I know most of these women quite well through these forums and we all work hard at giving our kids the best education we can find. We have given you the info we thought you were looking for but it is not good enough. What I am getting is that you want all homeschooled kids to be tested (even though ps kids don't all take the same test) so that none of them "fall through the cracks" even though there are ps kids that do too. Is that the gist of it?
 
Disneymom3, I looked this up, and I was grammatically correct. The words "in" and "into" can be used interchangeably, per dictionary.com.

Stupid dog woke me up and I can't get back to sleep.

Brandie

:rotfl: I admit I was feeling snarky that day. However all of the grammar resources I use say into due to the fact that into infers a movement from the outside (of the trashcan) to the inside. Clearly not an issue to ruin your day over! (Glad it was the dog and not grammar that had you awake at night!) As an aside, have you read Eats, Shoots and Leaves? I think you would like it! I found it hilarious.
 
As for the chips on our shoulders ;) You are asking us Mary, to give you an answer you want. (That is how it is coming across.) About people we don't even know. How are we supposed to do that? What you have been told time and again is that WE, here on this thread are doing what we need to do. I know most of these women quite well through these forums and we all work hard at giving our kids the best education we can find. We have given you the info we thought you were looking for but it is not good enough. What I am getting is that you want all homeschooled kids to be tested (even though ps kids don't all take the same test) so that none of them "fall through the cracks" even though there are ps kids that do too. Is that the gist of it?
No, I don't want a specific answer. I'm sorry if I came off that way. I disagree with the info. I don't want you or anyone else to give me the answer I want to hear.

What I want, after 4 days of further investigation, is for this country to require an education for all students, not just attendance. I want all of them to be tested, public school, private school and home school. I don't want to see any child not given a fair shake in this life.

Does it happen? Of course. It happens in all 3 places I mention. I have never disagreed that public school students are doing poorly - very poorly and that your children are probably doing better than most. That is what seems to be lost. Perhaps the solution is a national test. Get the states out of it so we're comparing apples to apples.

Just because someone disagrees with what is going on at this very moment does not mean there is another agenda or someone is trying to start trouble. Your way is not the right way - neither is mine - who knows? We could all be wrong :).
 
No, I don't want a specific answer. I'm sorry if I came off that way. I disagree with the info. I don't want you or anyone else to give me the answer I want to hear.

What I want, after 4 days of further investigation, is for this country to require an education for all students, not just attendance. I want all of them to be tested, public school, private school and home school. I don't want to see any child not given a fair shake in this life.

Does it happen? Of course. It happens in all 3 places I mention. I have never disagreed that public school students are doing poorly - very poorly and that your children are probably doing better than most. That is what seems to be lost. Perhaps the solution is a national test. Get the states out of it so we're comparing apples to apples.

Just because someone disagrees with what is going on at this very moment does not mean there is another agenda or someone is trying to start trouble. Your way is not the right way - neither is mine - who knows? We could all be wrong :).

I'm curious ,what do you think happens to a PS student who gets a low score on
a standardized test?
 
I'm curious ,what do you think happens to a PS student who gets a low score on
a standardized test?
Probably nothing in some districts, remediation and retesting in others, and being left behind in some.

What happens to those in private school or home schools?
 
Probably nothing in some districts, remediation and retesting in others, and being left behind in some.

What happens to those in private school or home schools?

Actually,nothing happens in public schools anywhere..Standardized tests are used to track the progress of a school especially since NCLB. a child who scores low on a standardized test faces no penalties at all.
If a homeschooled student fails a standardized test in some states, he can be forced back to school

Now if you are talking about tests like ACTs SAT's and some standard graduation tests that some states now use, those are volunatary. Yes, a student who wants to graduate in those states must take them but they are choosing to attend school when it is voluntary ,after age 16
 
In my town students are required to pass standardized tests in order to advance to the next grade.
 
I don't think they can do that legally. What do you do with kids who fail every year? And what is fail? Partially proficient? What tests do they give? School districts can pick and choose what tests and when.

Standarized testing is not there to penalize students. It's to let the schools know how they are doing and will occasionally be used to red flag some students who may need extra attention.

To require a student to pass to advance is cruel.
 

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