*** Homeschool List ***

Hi Anna welcome to the thread! :wave:

Here are some more websites you may find helpful:

www.preschoolexpress.com
http://homeschoolreviews.com/reviews/curriculum/showall.aspx
http://homeschooling.gomilpitas.com/index.htm
http://www.thehomeschoolmom.com/
http://www.homeschool.com/
http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?nav=start&webtag=ab-homeschool


If you are interested in support groups, check out "Yahoo groups". Type in homeschool and the state you live in. You may find a number of homeschooling groups in your area. They can be a wonderful resource and many meet up for field trips and have co-ops. :)

It is a big decision! I have young children that aren't school aged yet. I've been researching and networking for quite a while. I have concerns too (which I battle with research).

Good luck with your decision!

ETA- Here is an article on socialization. I found it interesting and funny. Oh my gosh. How many times in school did I hear, "We are not here to socialize!". I totally forgot all about that!

http://www.nhen.org/nhen/pov/editors/default.asp?id=157
 
AMaloy314 said:
Hi everyone,

After reading all 47 pages of this thread, I still feel like the mom who doesn't have a clue.

Another thing I wonder is (and please do not think that this is a flame) if some homeschoolers try justify doing any activities that they want to do with the excuse that it is educational. ie, to me, a walk downtown for ice cream does not constitute an excursion with alot of educational value. It is just a walk to get ice cream and yet, I know there are people who try to 'rename' it. If I were to homeschool, how would I know what to do to have an educational outing? Something with real learning value.


Anna
Hi Anna-
I don't consider anything you've said a flame, and welcome to the "thought' of homeschooling- I agree with oceanannie- find some local groups- In reference to the comment above, you'll have to bear in mind one thing- all homeschoolers choose to educate their children differently. There are as many ways to successfully educate your kids outside of the school system as there successful ways to parent those kids.
Many folks feel the same as you do, that education needs to be accomplished in a setting that recreates the typical schoolroom, however, there are just as may who feel the opposite is true,and the reality is, both kinds of educating,and just about everything in between, is statisitically a "success." Not because one method is inherently greater than the other, or some moms are highly educated, but simply because no one cares about your kids education and future more than you do!
I guess what I'm saying is, look for groups in your area, and online, like yahhogroups- you'll find a large varitey of groups, and some you'll feel comfortable getting to know better, others you won't. ****Because****- your family is unique, and you have a vision that you may find others share exactly, or it might be a little different.:grouphug:
I'm more of a "learning through life" type,I guess, and you'll see my kids out every waking hour in the nice weather.
Home Education magazines website is a nice place to start , and trust yourself! you've done a good job already and they're still just little munchkins! How did they get to such smart,happy kids thus far? :cheer2:
 
Belle0101 said:
Real Homeschool Mothers

Real Homeschool Mothers don't eat quiche; they don't have time to make it.

Real Homeschool Mothers know that their kitchen utensils are probably in the sandbox.

Real Homeschool Mothers often have sticky floors, filthy ovens and happy kids.

Real Homeschool Mothers know that dried playdough doesn't come out of shag carpet.

Real Homeschool Mothers don't want to know what the vacuum just sucked up.

Real Homeschool Mothers sometimes ask "why me?" and get their answer when a little voice says, "because I love you best."

Real Homeschool Mothers know that a child's growth is not measured by height or years or grade ... It is marked by the progression of Mama to Mommy to Mom.
that is to cute.
 
Hey guys--is everyone back to hitting the books this week? We started back to formal lessons yesterday and had our co-op today. Phew, I am wiped out. My kids are now watching a video we got from the library yesterday. I cannot tell you how much I love library day......We get into the car after checking out 8 million books and blessed peace descends. I tell you, you could hear a pin drop in that car! Oh how I love it. I picked up some more Beverly Cleary books on tape. All three of the kids think that Ramona is hilarious so we are reading one aloud at home and then we listen to another in the car. Going to have to get going on my requests so we have plenty for the drive to Disney.

I am really pleased so far with Five in A Row (FIAR) I started with the boys (4 and 5.5) yesterday. We read The Story About Ping which fit really well as we are learning about Gheghis and Kublai Khan this week as well as the Silk Road in history at co-op. We read the story and talked about how the artist represented water in the pictures. (An idea from the FIAR book) then we went to the table and filled two containers with water and watched the circles spread out as we dropped things into the water. We tried to find things that would float like the barrel on the boy in the book and checked out if different shaped things made different shapes when you dropped them in the water. (That was my idea for science) Tomorrow, they are going to act out the story with paper cut outs while I read it. And Friday I have to figure out a way to work in math. Yesterday, there were no arguments about school and I don't think the 5 yo even realized that WAS school, so that is a good thing.

So, how are your January studies coming along?

Oh, and have you all seen this site? These coupons are good through June and there is no limit to how often you can use them (I asked.) It is for an entire free kids meal including a drink.

http://www.osf.com/kids/Rewards_of_Reading_9-05.pdf
 

Hi- glad to be "back in the swing" after a couple of weeks break- for us that means classes and activities are resuming as normal-
Art club started again, and the kids are finishing their quilt squares for the library benefit-
my little guy had his science class today,they were on the topic of the solar system- it was cute- at one point they all got a little galaxy, shaped like either a spiral,elliptical,or nonshape(name?) type, then they all had to find each other and cluster....
Gymnastics classes, wilderness club,and open gym/rec time again- yeah! My kids love the activities.
I love it when I get a day home,with nowhere to go, like yesterday,big old snow and ice mess....
Kinda funny- the kids dentist was so pleased to hear there were other homeschooled kids around,"so,you're not that isolated,then?" were her words.I admit, I did laugh out loud...but she was nice...
:banana:
 
disneymom3 said:
At the top of this page, I explain my love of Spelling Power. What is great about it is that there are only 5 min spent on each thing so that kids who are reluctant writers don't get overwhelmed. A friend of mine whose son is 9 and is an attrocious writer and speller just started using it and it is working well for him. Otherwise, I have heard a lot to just give it time and not make it overwhelming.

Thanks, we have tried Spelling Power and it didn't seem to help. He was not retaining any of the words. That and he was lost with the spelling rules (he is just plain lost when it comes to all things phonics). So, we went back and did Explode the Code (books 2 and 3) thinking "if I give him a good phonics base spelling will be easier. Well, that just frustrated him to no end. We did Saxon Phonics for him in K. We did Spectrum Phonics for him in grade 1. Then in grade 2 we did Headsprout Phonics (an on line AWESOME reading/simple phonics program for young kids) and finally something clicked and he started to read.

He can write as in penmenship. It's creative writing or even writing a letter to a friend or a list of things out or notes in his nature notebook that he has terrible trouble.

Among other spelling programs I cannot remember we have tried Abeka (way too hard for him), A Reason for Spelling, Spelling Power, Spelling Workout, Sing, Spell and Write and ??? I don't know what else right now.

I think the main reason he has a problem writing, doing dictation, taking notes or putting down answers in writing is he is such a poor speller that he gets frustrated having to look up every other word. Even when I tell him that it's okay to spell it wrong just write it and we can correct it on the final draft he gets stumped and cannot get past the fact that he doesn't know how to spell something.

Thanks again for the idea. :goodvibes I reallyl appreciated it!
 
TNKBELL said:
Sounds like your son is gifted! I think as long as he can write legibly(?) that is enough for now and allow him to practice in different ways such as on a chalk board and a dry erase board or even with chalk on the driveway, sometimes routines get mundane it helps to make small changes. My friend told me of a creative writing program that is on dvd and it's very good but expensive, does anyone know what I'm talking about, I can't remember what it's called. Sounds like you are doing a wonderful job!!!



Thanks for reminding me that all kids are gifted in different ways. I start to doubt the job I am doing when he has so much trouble writing (not the penmenship part of it but the actual "writing") and expressing his thoughts or sharing just how much he really knows. If you figure out the name of that creative writing program on DVD I would love to check it out.

I have a friend who homeschools a 17 yr old dd, a 15 yr old ds, a 12 yr old dd, a 9 yr old dd and has an 18 month old and is pregnant again. I will ask her for any time management tips she might have to pass on!

Congrats again on the baby to be, I know how exciting it is to be looking forward to meeting your child! It's one of the few things more magical than being at Disney with low crowds and lots of friends and family! ::MickeyMo
 
Kinda funny- the kids dentist was so pleased to hear there were other homeschooled kids around,"so,you're not that isolated,then?" were her words.I admit, I did laugh out loud...but she was nice...
:banana:[/QUOTE]

That is very funny! :rotfl2: Along those lines here is a quote from my dear old mother-in-law "How will they know how to talk to other kids if you never let them be with other kids" The funny part of that quote...we were at the playground in my husband's hometown (somewhere we don't go all that often) and my kids were running around the playground with with some new friends while their cousin (who goes to school) was kind of hanging around the edges of the group not really talking with anyone and only joined the group when my middle ds came over and brought them "into the fold". :rolleyes1 In my M-I-L's defense she is warming up to the idea of home schooling and has even been impressed with some things the boys have learned. :hourglass I figure all in good time.

Another funnier quote "Don't your kids get lonely?" Asked by the lady behind the counter at Chuck E. Cheese (we were with some kids from our homeschool co-op...about 25 kids in all). :earboy2:
 
Hello everyone. I haven't been DISing for a while (I know, hard to believe, but true). I, too, am very glad to be getting back into the swing of things. We started Monday and had co-op today. I actually like the daily routine of homeschooling and am glad to be back to "normal".

ebarj1098 - you asked if anyone has pulled their child out of public school to homeschool. Well, we are one of those families. We pulled our DS out in November of 2nd grade. Please ask any questions you'd like. It was helpful to us to right down our concerns about homeschooling and our concerns about public school. When it came down to it, we decided to try homeschool for just the remainer of that year. Now, I can't image sending him back to public school (ever). One thought that helped me was "what's the worse that can happen if I homeschool him for this year?" Anyway, ask me any more questions you'd like.

Anna - I think most, if not all, of us can understand what you're going through. First of all, I'd like to point out that the fact that you say that you don't want to have your children be like the "second family" tells me that you won't. What I mean is, if that's "your biggest fear" then you'll seek out ways to make sure you raise "well balanced" children.

Of course, I have to comment on worrying about your children not being able to relate to children their own age. Here it is - I understand what you're saying, BUT wouldn't it be nice to have children that can relate to children (and adults) of various ages? I tell you, that's one thing that my DH and I really like about HSing. Our boys "fit in" with so many different "groups".

Anna - I once thought that I was doing the "best of both worlds" type of thing by supplementing public school with "homeschooling". But you know what, it's actually more time efficient to choose one and stick with it. Think of it this way, your child puts in a long day at school (for my son, I'll add the description of "boring" day at school). Then, they come home and get to do the "real learning". Oh, don't forget, they may have homework from public school that they have to do first (yes, one teacher in our school gave homework EVERY night to her FIRST graders!!!). Anyway, can you see how one or the other becomes a waste of time? The poor kid either becomes frustrated with all the "school" he has to do, or he begins to wonder why he's "wasting" all day in public school. Anyway, it's just what I have found.

Bear with me for a couple more comments.
Anna, you also mentioned the time it takes to homeschool and I have to tell you that I feel like I work a job from 8:30 am to 2:30 pm. I'm about 95% all school during those hours. I find that most hs curriculum is written for anyone with an average high school education to teach, so yes, you most definitely can teach your child. You can choose curriculum that minimizes or virtually eliminates your prep time (ie - lesson planning time) and I do my weekly assignment sheets while I'm sitting beside my children and they're completing worksheets on their own. I give that portion of my days to the routing of homeschooling.

Lastly, this is not a life and death decision, you ARE allowed to change your mind. (why do we always feel like we can't make any type of mistake with our children?). It's ok to try something and then change if it doesn't work for you and your family. You won't scar your child for life, they'll roll with it and move on. You seem like a very involved mom and I'm sure you'll raise great kids no matter what you choose.
 
Another funnier quote "Don't your kids get lonely?" Asked by the lady behind the counter at Chuck E. Cheese (we were with some kids from our homeschool co-op...about 25 kids in all). :earboy2:

That is FUNNY!!!! :rotfl2:
 
Ok, I promise, last post for the evening.....
Just had to add a few more comments for Anna. I think it's because I used to have these same questions.

AMaloy314 said:
Will I have the patience when they just aren't getting it?
Will you lose your patience at times? You bet, but you'll make sure your kids "get it" because you care about them more than anyone else does.

AMaloy314 said:
Sometimes, I feel like there isn't enough time in the day as it is. How would I make time to do lesson plans, grade tests, etc.? Would I be disciplined enough to do it everyday? It is already a fight to get them to sit down to eat meals at the table. Would I have to fight them to sit to study EVERYDAY?
There's never enough time in the day, but I don't think anyone has the perfect solution for that one. But, hs curriculum is laid out for hser's. Try to find some to look at, you'll see that the planning portion isn't that difficult. Grade tests? What tests? No, really, I'm serious. I know whether my children are learning or not - because I'm there. We don't do many tests at all. Just enough to make me feel like they know "how" to take a test. Grade them while they're doing their "on their own work". You're not talking much time at all.

As far as fighting them to sit and study, first, rules are rules in our house. School is first and foremost (including for me!!!!). You can't do anything else until school is done (again, including me). When faced with doing NOTHING at all or doing school (which is fun most of the time), they choose school. Also, if they don't want to "sit" and study - don't. My older son LOVES to take a lap board and do his work on our front porch. My younger son does some at his desk, some at the kitchen table, and some on the floor. Yes, they may have days they don't want to do school, but wouldn't they also have days when they don't feel like GOING to school (or getting up to catch the bus)?

AMaloy314 said:
Another thing I wonder is (and please do not think that this is a flame) if some homeschoolers try justify doing any activities that they want to do with the excuse that it is educational. ie, to me, a walk downtown for ice cream does not constitute an excursion with alot of educational value. It is just a walk to get ice cream and yet, I know there are people who try to 'rename' it. If I were to homeschool, how would I know what to do to have an educational outing? Something with real learning value.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but if some homeschoolers call a trip to get ice cream "educational", who cares? It's nothing to me. YOU get to decide if you feel something was just for fun or if it was educational. Believe me, you'll know, and besides, it's ok to take the day off and do something just for fun. It's not a race to get your required days in. On the other hand, how many really GOOD "educational outings" (field trips?) do the public school kids have a year? So if I only do 1 or 2 really good ones a year, that's ok too, right? (starting to see how this works?)

Anna - I sincerely hope that nothing I said was offensive to you or is causing you more grief in making your decision. I truely have gone through many of your same thoughts and am just trying to pass along what I have learned. Best wishes with your decision.
 
Ok, this REALLY is my last post for the night!!!

jaycns - Sorry, but we use Spelling Power, too. I'm curious, what do you mean when you said that your son was lost with the spelling rules? My DS9 found it frustrating to have to right out the rule each day so I put the rules on note cards and he can read it along with me and he refers to it while he's doing his spelling words. We have even rewritten problem words on index cards and then used colored pencils to highlight how it follows the rule. Anyway, if it didn't work, it didn't work, I'm just curious about it.

My DS9 also didn't enjoy creative writting (but now likes it). We're using "writing strands" as the curriculum. Be forewarned, start with a lower level than where you think he is. My approach was to concentrate on getting him to ENJOY writing and "easier" enabled me to do that. Also, my son is a perfectionist. He'll stop writing to correct his spelling. Yes, I'd say, "just keep going and we'll fix the spelling later". Well, that didn't work at first. He just couldn't keep going. So, I had him dictate to me. After that started working and he saw that this was getting to be fun, I had him rewrite what he dictated to me. Then we moved into him being able to write and not worry about spelling while he was writing. After he would finish, I would correct his spelling for him and help him make any changes he wanted to. Then, he would rewrite a final copy (that way he has a final copy to be very proud of). Now, I didn't do all these steps on the first lesson. As he progressed through lessons, I'd casually have him do the next "step" when I felt that he was ready.

Another thing that it sounds like our DSs have in common... I have since learned that many, many boys just don't know how to organize their thoughts and so creative writing (or writing a letter) is very difficult. They don't know where to start and don't know how to proceed. What "writing strands" does is steps them through how to organize a sentence, then a list, then a list of actions, then taking those actions and making a list of sentences, then saying those sentences in different ways, etc. One of the "light bulb" moments for my son was the excersize on watching an event (his brother coming into the room, picking up a paper plate, and throwing it away) and then dictating the event to me with a GREAT amount of detail. The "light bulb" went on when he realized that he actually took what happened and it turned into a story on it's own. He was like "wow, I wrote a story, that was fun!!!!" All of this came from Writing Strands #2 which is the book that he's still in. (again, don't worry about the ages for the different strands, start easy and go as slowly or quickly as they can).

I hope that helps you some.

Let me know more details about your problems with spelling power. I hate to mention it, but I know an adult and one of his children who have their brains wired in a way that phonics doesn't make sense. (I don't remember the name for the "disfunction".) They both just had to memorize how to spell words and they heavily rely on dictionaries and spell checks. Oh, it by no means slows either one down, the adult is an engineer and the son is graduating high school (home schooled) this year. The dad explains it to me that their brain just isn't capable of processing phonics. The sounds just don't come through to them. I'm not saying this is the case with your son, but if the problem persists, you may want to check into it.
 
nuzmom-Thanks for addressing that. I do have alot of reservations about hsing. My reasoning for possibly making the change is that we may be moving to an area with a not-so-good school. However, it sounds like everyone really trucks the kids around to activities. This new location for us is 30 minutes from a main town. It wouldn't be feasible for me to go to town everyday for something. Would that be a problem? I'm also concerned because my boys seem to learn much differently. My 5 yo is a slow learner, luckily he has a great K teacher, he's doing well. My 3 yo learns very quickly. He isn't writing many letters, but knows them all and 1-14. I almost feel like they'll end up on the same level, and I'd like to avoid that... There's so much more to ask... but we have to go to school! :teeth:
 
ebarj1098 - We live 30 minutes from any major town, too. Our library is about 40 minutes away. Grocery stores, shopping, etc. are all 30 minutes. Zoo, science center, etc are 1 hour away. I don't go to town every day and really try to limit it to once a week. For instance, the day we go to the library I also go grocery shopping and do any quick errands. When he has baseball lessons, which are 15 minutes from the library, I combine that in that day also. On those days, we leave home around 1:00 pm and don't get back until dinner time. I have found other activities closer to home. There's choir at our church in our small town (boy scouts meet there, too, but he's not doing that this year) and there's co-op, baseball, and archery in a neighboring town. Guitar lessons were a problem with being 35 minutes away, so I'm trying to find something closer to home.

My boys are 5 years apart and have different learning styles. I think that's true for most families. Our children tend to be very different from one another. I also think they go through phases of rapid learning sometimes and other times it just creeps along. However, what is nice about hsing, you can tailor your curriculum to your child's learning style. For instance, if they're more hands on, you can use more manipulatives when teaching math. If they like sitting and doing workbooks, then you can do more of that. When we match the curriculum to the child, learning goes a lot easier. Oh, I want to mention another nice part of homeschooling, you move at their pace. Your boy that learns slowly right now may take off when you're doing science. He may take forever to learn addition and subtraction, but breeze through multiplication and division. It's very possible to have your child doing differents "grade levels" in different subjects.

Ok, so my kids are 5 years apart (and my older DS tests 2 grade levels ahead in some subjects). You would think that I can't combine any subjects, right? Well, I can't combine all, but I do combine. For instance, I am doing a "My Body" workbook with both of them. We made lifesize cardboard cut outs of both kids and they are learning internal organs, then coloring them, and attaching them to their "person". Of course, I expect my DS9 to remember more of it. I was also doing "story of the world" history with both. It has a story with coloring pages and activities. Last year we did "Konos" unit studies together. For instance, there's no reason both your boys couldn't learn about pioneers together, just expect slightly different results in both of them. I think it would be more difficult to combine some subjects because of not wanting to hold the older son "back", but many curriculums cover more than one grade so at least you could try using the same book. For instance, I think the "old" Math-U-See Foundations covered grades K to 3, Spelling Power is age 8 to adult, Easy Grammar covers 2 grades at a time as does Saxon Math. For instance, Easy Grammar and Saxon covers an "advanced" 4th grader and an "average" 5th grader. Maybe that would end up working even for the classes that are more difficult to combine.

Anyway, your children really are still young and I would combine lots of subjects for now (whenever the 3 year old is ready). By the way, unit studies are GREAT for doing that. Oh, you may be able to combine handwritting, too. Again, just expect different results.

Maybe some large families can help you some more on this.

I like that this board is not only helpful, but also I find the responses to be pretty honest and not too sugar coated. I like that you'll read about the struggles that homeschoolers go through, too. It's helpful to have the "whole picture" when making a decision to try homeschooling your children.
 
I have decided that the original curriculum I was going to use from our Ministry of Education was not good enough so I am looking again.

I was wondering because he is half way through 4 should I be ordering grade 4 or 5? Also do I order them seperately so he could be a 4 in English and a 5 in math and other stuff.

Or....should I just order grade 5 and supplement what he needs from grade 4 with just work books and other resources that I can find.
 
Wow! You all have given me a lot to think about!

First of all, let me say that I was really glad to hear that many of you have struggled with this decision, too. Perhaps it is because you have to defend your decision so often, but it always seemed to me that HSers were always so SURE that they had done the right thing. I was beginning to wonder if my not knowing what to do was a 'sign' that I shouldn't do it.

I think that I have been too judgemental in deciding what is right and/or normal, if there is such a thing. As was pointed out, everyone has different ways of doing things. And I do believe that in the end we all want what is best for our kids.

Isn't there some type of 'standard' that the kids have to meet? I know it is shades of 1984 , but I think that I have heard that in some places (Dayton, OH for one) that if a student skips school, a parent can be held responsible and even be fined or go to prison. How is something like that handled with HS? I know that public schools here have proficiency tests that students have to pass. Is there testing like that in HSing, too? I would understand if there is, but I think that teaching for the test is a big part of public schools' problem. I'd hate to run into it again.

Anyway, I'm off to check out those sites. Thanks, everyone, for your help.

Anna
 
Anna - even though I'm your "neighbor" (ie - western pa) all states have different homeschooling laws. The best place for you to look is on the home school legal defense association. They seem to be a great place to start when it comes to the law.

Here's a link to the summary of the ohio home schooling law...
http://www.hslda.org/laws/default.asp?State=OH

Also, don't limit yourself to that page. Take a look around their site and you'll find it very interesting. I think they also welcome phone calls.

Ultimately, you are responsible for following the law. It's great to talk to other hsers in your area, but there's no substitute for you knowing the law and what's required. Sometimes, this is even more important than you think as you will probably end up knowing the law better than the school district and you may have to gently educate them on it at times.
 
Wow, we got busy around here all of a sudden!

Quick answers first--

Nuzmom, have you thought of checking out either your church band or the local high school to see if you can find someone who can give guitar lessons to your son? Depending on how old he is, you might be able to find a teenage guitar player that would work out well. We have a 15 yo boy in our church who is teaching a couple of the kids drums.

OceanAnnie--I tell you, you are the website guru of this thread! You always have such good links to share! So, do you know where I can find some more info for FIAR that is not the official website? :wizard:

ebarj--for your question about trucking kids around a lot, I would say it totally depends on the choices that you make. I have personally run the gamut from super busy to staying home as much as humanly possible. I have a friend who lives about 20-25 min north of me--and we are sooo not the center of town--she goes for WEEKS without leaving home other than going to co-op. Her kids are delightful and can carry on an interesting conversation with anyone. We have been staying at home pretty much lately other than DD who in Dec was in three plays(yeah, there was a prolonged moment of insanity there when I agreed to that) However, next week we do start gymnastics and then at the end of Jan, each of the kids is taking a class through community ed so that will busy up several of our days.

You also mentioned worrying about your kids missing out on things by not going to public school. Here is the list I have come up with for what they miss out on:

#1 Lots of time wasted standing in lines.
#2 Lots of time wasted waiting for the teacher to discipline the bratty kid that everyone is sick of
#3 Riding the bus--DS5 is still not happy about this
#4 Having to eat lunch in a very noisy room
#5 Learning only what other people tell you you are supposed to learn in X grade because it is on the state standards for that year.
#6 Mean kids
#7 Rude kids
#8 Hours spent being bored learning things you already know

Do I need to go on? Now of course, there are benefits to learning in a group environment that I cannot provide by myself at home, but our co-op of 23 kids can. (And my list is meant to be silly.)

Anna--you remind me of me when I first started looking into homeschooling. Lots of questions and needing answers before you might "really" need them. I want to know everything I need to know and I want to know it now. :blush:

As for the supplementing public school, sure people do it but I personally don't get why. I thought of having DD keep up with our history while she was in school this fall, but it was just too hard. She was wiped out when she came home, she had homework everynight and just wanted to be at home hanging out and playing and reading, not having to spend more time on studies. Plus, to me, that kind of ends up saying that they aren't learning in school anyway so what is the point. And, actually, if you work with a kid who is already advanced what will happen is that they get more advanced and more bored in school.

The financial piece has me puzzled. Why do you think homeschooling is expensive? This past spring I spent the most money I ever have on a curriculum and that was about $250. I have now decided that I don't want to use it and won't be buying the next year. Basically, here is about what our curriculum has cost us: Singapore Math $30 per year for DD. We have spent probably $15 in 4 years on manipulatives for her, but she is not a hands on kid. Writing Strands $15, Primary Language Lessons $13, Science was included in my $250 packet but would have cost me probably $40. History we do Story of the World for all three kids and the book and activity guide were about $30. We have art supplies, we do lots of experiments with stuff in the kitchen, we listen to music and read books and watch tons of educational videos from the library. DS5, I have spent a lot more on manipulative type stuff, but almost nothing on curriculum books. We have Busy Bugs, Measuring Worms, Teddy Bear Counters, lots of games but nothing too pricey. We are playing games I have found online for phonics and reading Bob books I borrowed from a friend. I can practically guarantee you that I have spent less for his kindergarten year than you have on tuition for preschool. So, don't let that piece worry you.

For the justified field trip, actually, we just did something along these lines, but I didn't feel I had to justify it since most days I know my kids are learning enough (other days, I am convinced I am a totally failure adn doing my children a complete disservice and they will never be properly educated.) We were basically just doing it for fun because we are really nerds at heart. We were driving to the ice cream shop because we live in MN and it is dang cold out there. Anyway, I had to stop and get gas and DD was watching the numbers on the pump fly upwards. She asked how long that gas would last us, so I told her my goal is to fill up only once a week. I said we get about 20 miles to the gallon and the icecream place we were going was about 15 miles away. So, how much gas would we use and at $xx rate, how much would that cost? She figured it out in her head on the way there. She also decided to inform me that if we were able to go 65 miles an hour, it should only take us about 13 minutes to get where we were going, but since we kept hitting red lights, it was too hard to figure out what time we would be there. When we got to the ice cream shop, the lady offerred two flavors in one cone. DS wanted to know if that meant you got twice as much, or if that meant you got half of one and half of the other(there is technically math in there.) When it was time to pay, the lady wanted DS to tell her how much the ice cream cost(love that lady!! As an aside, it drives me nuts when my kids are trying to buy something for themselves and someone tells them exactly what change they need to give them. Hello??? Lesson lost there!) So, DS had to figure out $2 for 5 people. He counted it on his fingers, but who cares. We could have taken it a lot further than we did, but hey we got some lessons in real world economics and since I really don't care how much actual time we spend doing schooling, it didn't matter. We were just having fun.

Now, do you get sick of your kids and how do you get them to sit at the table and do lessons? Well, #1 Oh yeah! There are days I want to cry because they never go away and they constantly mess up my house!! But I hated having DD in school so it's okay. And I have found that I have to get out on occassion during daylight hours and save my sanity. As far as getting the kids to do their school work, well, the boys don't spend a lot of time at the table. In fact right now, DS5 is pretty much not spending anytime at the table that is paperwork related. He is there when we do science experiments and more hands on projects, but the workbook based stuff was just not workign for him right now and wasnt' worth the fight. Both boys and I do circle time every day. We do calendar and talk about the weather adn days of the week etc. Lately I have started working in the ordinal numbers ideas (first second third etc) into calendar time. We then do our book for Five in A Row. Today we read our story and then looked at a map of China and talked about the map key and where the river was that the character lives on, etc. Then we got out buttons and counted them out in groups for how many ducks there are in the book and then went through and put out a button for each boat we found in the book. Pretty light, but they are picking up things I want them to know at this age. We also have a hard and fast rule in our house that there is no whining or complaining about school work. This works a LOT better for the 9 you than the 5 yo. I honestly cannot remember the last time she complained about school work. She knows each day what she has to do and she just does it. We do spelling totally together and then she knows I am there as a resource for math and writing. We always do science and history all together and we all love it and have fun with it so there are no fights there.

Hoping I answered some questions here and didnt' just ramble. Good luck in your decision.
 
Hi Julie, :)

Research is my thing. I love to find out all sorts of stuff. Once I get on a roll it's hard for me to close the gate. I have enough books and websites to keep me busy for a long, long time. Now I just need to dig in and read more of what I have!

I don't need to be sold on homeschooling anymore. I get it. It will work for us. I think the scariest thing of all for me was to step away from my experience growing up. It's new territory for me. I want my children to have what I had ---a peer group to grow up with. I think I was focusing too much on my experience and what they weren't going to have. It did stress me out for awhile. Didn't take too long to focus on what their experience will be and what they will have that is positive. And although they won't have high school reunions to go to, they may have homeschool reunions to go to. They can still grow up with a peer group through scouting, swim team, 4-H, sports.

Funny thing is I haven't been concerned with academics!
I have a background in education but even if I didn't there are so many resources out there! So, I'm comfortable with that aspect. If I find I need help, I'll get it. It's nice to have a (local and wide) network to ask questions.

One of my biggest fears is all the balls I will still have to juggle once I formally take this on! Everyone will still be looking to me for all the meals --- especially the dreaded DINNER. Ack! (I've been stockpiling frugal/quick meal websites already.) I'll still need to keep the house tidy. (Thank you flylady.com) Mother, educator, wife --- when will I have time for me?! I'm looking into ways to carve out some me time already. :) There's a book out for Homeschooling Dad's out, that's supposed to nudge them on this issue. ;) I'll be looking into that one too.

Oh, the Five in a Row series. I just got the Before Five in a Row book (BFIAR). I love it. I found out about it on this thread! Are you looking for reviews? Here are some from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/18...2-0689485- 3656914?s=books&v=glance&n=283155
 


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