Homeschool Chat Part III

Hi all. This is our third year homeschooling, and I have a question. How do so many homeschool familes complete their school work in an hour or two per day? I am not being fasecious, I'm just really curious. We homeschool M-Th, but it takes all day...literally from about 830-9 until 3-4 (with an hour for lunch). I feel like if I cut anything out, she won't be getting what she needs, but I envy the families that have so much free time. How do you do it?

Our day currently only takes 1-2 hours. She's just in kindergarten though and we're not really doing any extras yet. We do read alouds, Bible, science, math, handwriting, and reading. We rarely do science experiments and do art once in a while. I'm guessing that next year will take one hour longer then this year.
 
I have a question for Blackbeltdisneygirl. How much do you push your students to compete? I signed DS12 up for Karate when he was 7. We didn't take for very long. From the first class, all the instructor talked about was preparing for competition and competing. He also had twice a week sessions (once at 7 at night during the week, and once at 8 am on Saturday morning - :eek:) If you were competing, I believe he also tried to hold another practice during the week. I thought it was a little much for a beginner. DS burned out quickly, it was just too hard with school/homework/trying to get into bed at a decent hour. I confess, I know very little about martial arts. Can you not move through the belts without competing? I think, if DS could have taken a once a week class that wasn't focused on competition, he might have enjoyed it more. Perhaps that is impossible, though?

I don't push my students at all to compete. It is a personal choice. Our school didn't even start competing until about 3 years ago. It's never been our focus. We started a competition team about 1 1/2 years ago, but it is mostly adults. We also don't compete in stand up (American Kenpo), just in grappling. That further limits the amount of students who compete b/c some only do Kenpo, not ground work. Not all of my children compete yet either. My son and oldest daughter are the only ones out of 5 who do. My second oldest daughter is looking forward to competing though, and is in the process of training to do so. My son doesn't like it much anymore, but if I let him out of it, he would sit around playing guitar all day. I want him to stay well-rounded, so he competes maybe once a year, and trains 3 days a week. My daughter loves it. (he still likes karate, so I wanted to specify that. Even if he didn't, he doesn't have a choice in the matter b/c I won't quit on him. Sometimes we have to push our kids to be the best they can be without crushing their spirits. Karate is just part of our day.)

Anyway, you should be able to find a school that doesn't focus on competing. Our school does not require it for moving through the belt rankings. Again, it is not our focus. Our focus is building strong, confident, respectful kids who have the skills they need to defend themselves. The only reason we started competing in the first place was b/c in the studio you can't go hard on your training partners, so it was a chance for us to test skills to see where our shortcomings were. I would look around for a school that doesn't require it to get through the beltrankings. Belts are VERY important to a child building confidence. I often have to have conversations with parents who say they aren't going to make their kids go through the rankings. It is something that the kids work very hard to earn, and it is crucial to confidence building. At age 7, our kids' classes are between 4:45 and 7. 7 is for mostly the kids who are learning in specialized classes like weapons, so they aren't required. There should be a school near you somewhere that has earlier classes. Though at age 12, in our program, you child would be considered an adult, and classes end at 9 for adults. I guess I would just do some research on the schools in your area to see what might suit your family and your schedule. Most schools offer some sort of free trial. I don't want to knock the other school, but it seems to me that a karate school should be focused on the wellbeing of its students, not on winning medals or trophies.

He use to enjoy soccer and he did play it for about 2 years before the competitive nature of the other kids and sadly the parents squashed whatever desire he had to play it. He does not like the pressure that comes with competitive team sports (I really can't blame him). Now, he is cool as a cucumber playing piano at recitals and in church ---tons of people listening to him ---that doesn't bother him but of course no one is yelling at him.

We do play games as a family outdoors --- he loves "hunting" us with the Nerf guns (think paintball but with Nerf darts). He likes helping his daddy gather and cut wood for our bonfires (but we don't do this on a regular basis - maybe twice a month). He also helps my husband dig fence post holes, when asked. I would just love to find a way to motivate him to be active outside more often than when we are working on our place.

We have discussed adding a horse to our collection of animals but as of right now, its just not feasible. The money it would take to maintain the horse is just not there considering we already have 20 pot belly pigs, 6 barn cats and a dog.

Now, he will walk on our treadmill inside the house and he will walk on this for an hour at a time while he watches tv. But he won't go outside for a walk unless I ask him to. So he is active just not outside where you would think an 11 year-old boy would want to be. I know he can't be the only young boy like this.

I have considered buying or letting him make a marshmallow gun, since he likes to build, and letting him shoot marshmallows at the pigs. The pigs would love the marshmallows and would chase and "hunt" him if he hid from them with marshmallows. (They are pets and extremely gentle ---they will sit in his lap if he sits down)

Blackbeltdisneygirl - if you have game suggestions I am willing to try them. We have 10 acres that are open pasture so anything can be played out there.

I'm just curious if this is a growing trend among children these days. It just seems that instead of active playing its becoming more and more sedentary play.

I think you have a kid who does seem to enjoy a healthy balance, now that you have given us more information! It's great that he walks on the treadmill! I hate the treadmill! Guess that's why I do karate. He obviously enjoys shooting in a fun environment, so I like the idea of the marshmallow gun. There are plenty of instructional videos online on how to make one yourself, so maybe that could be an outdoor family project. We were talking about making them with our kids as an offshoot of my business (I sell products at flea markets on the side), and haven't gotten there yet. My son is recently really into airsoft guns. They are safe as long as you wear eye protection. They don't hurt as much as paintball, and the bb's are tiny, so they don't leave a huge mess. One of my son's friends likes to set up bales of straw and other obstacles. They have safe zones where you can remove eye protection if needed and you cannot be shot. It's a great way to get your son moving and playing outside. With an only child, mom and dad have to be really active in their play instead of letting them hang out with their siblings while you work. On the other hand, it might be a great way for your hubby and son to reconnect. Your hubby obviously can handle shooting, so having an airsoft war will be a great way to connect on the same level. The guns can be really affordable too. Look on ebay and at flea markets.


With that much land and with your animals, there is a lot of work that has to be done, I am sure. Sometimes with our students, we will do timed drills. It turns something that is maybe not so fun into something the kids look forward to. For example, we will take gear, pads, balls, and pretty much anything soft that we use in the studio, and pile it in the middle of the mat. We then have the kids run a speed drill where they are only allowed to take one item at a time and put it away. We time them, and they try to beat their time. This is a drill we run to help parents see a fun way to get kids to clean their rooms and such. I am sure you could alter this to fit whatever you are working on in regards to your chores. That way, not only are the chores getting done, but he is running and being active. He'll get a kick out of trying to beat his times. Oh, and it doen't count if they do a sloppy job. We toss the item back in the mix, and they have to do it again. That way the job is getting done right and fast.

Relay races are a great way to get kids moving. I change it up all the time. One day I will tell the kids to warm up by making their bottoms hit four corners of the mat. This is easy with a wide open space. You can just map out four corners. It's funny to see them running and sitting, running and sitting until they get all four corners. I've done this with all kinds of changes, like doing crab crawls to all four corners and such. Again, they are trying to beat their times. We also do line drills where they are going in straight lines and doing all kinds of different things. We'll do cartwheels down the line, forward rolls, wheelbarrows, snap kicks, bear crawls (hands down on the ground, butts up in the air), seals (bellies on the ground, but hands are pushing arms up so head is up in the air. they use only their arms to pull them along), scorpions (hands down, one leg up and straight, they sort of hop on one foot and two hands all the way down), etc...

Obstacle courses are fantastic, and again can be timed. We do over and under obstacles, in, out, and around obstacles, rope climbs, rope swings (instead of climbing the rope, swing across something) etc...How fun would it be for your son to come outside and mom and dad have an obstacle course set up. It's even more fun if mom and dad participate and time themselves too! They love the safe competition that is good-natured.

Let me know if we are on the right track. I can give you more if you think we are heading in the right direction. If not, I can give you others.

Sedentary lifestyles are becoming an epidemic, so you are absolutely right in thinking it is becoming more common. Kids spend most of their time on computers, video games, TV, play that involves sitting, etc... I often have to undo that damage. I see overweight children on a daily basis, and have to get them moving and refocused. I have a weight issue, but it's not for lack of trying. It's due to thyroid and some major health issues I've had. I refuse to let it happen to my kids, and that's why I get them involved in so many outdoor activities and karate. I do want you to know that what you describe about your son paints a picture of a child with a pretty healthy balance. I wouldn't have a problem teaching him in classes b/c he already seems to be a focused kid. As long as he is exercising at least 30 minutes to an hour a day, I wouldn't be too worried. What really matters is making sure he develops good habits so he doesn't become overweight as an adult by not making exercise a habit.
 
I haven't been on this thread in a long while, but have a question.

I'm cleaning closets and finding homeschool books I want to sell. I used mostly Abeka and those individual books might not be worth the trouble, but I have 4 years of Teaching Textbooks which are nearly $200 each new.

Have you all sold online? I heard of some site like Vegetable or Vitamin--don't remember.

Thanks!
 
I think I'm getting ahead of myself, when I post this.. But I'm 30 weeks pregnant, and already considering homeschooling for when he gets old enough. I can't imagine sending my son to the schools I was brought up in, they're horrible now.

You're in good company! I already knew I was going to homeschool even before I became pregnant. It's great that you have all this time to research homeschooling ideas. :goodvibes
 

Our homeschool day takes about 1-1.5 hours but my son is in KG. Our day starts with calendar and then we do read alouds, our curriculum, the active lesson of our day, and then some lapbook work. I tpically teach 4 days a week. (If I only teach 3 days in a given week each day is a little longer to allow for the extra work.)
 
My daughter is in KG. Her lessons take about 1 to 2 hours depending on what is being covered. She does some reading, writing, games, math, music, art, etc...and paperwork is done in between.

My older kids take a while though. Again, theirs is internet schooling, but as long as they stay caught up, they can be done anywhere from 2-3 hours. The problem is that they get distracted. Then they get behind. By behind, I don't mean they won't finish in time, it just means I am a bit more stressed b/c those lessons come up as overdues on their schedules. Makes me a bit nuts.

I've also added in some extra work on the side this year. We are doing Sequential Spelling b/c my 11 year old was bad at spelling. That takes us about 20 minutes, but the kids really enjoy it. I've been noticing the spelling improving so much already. My 6 year old even joins in and is doing so well. I didn't think she could participate b/c she is just learning to read. She is grasping it so well I can't believe it!!!

I would say we average about 4 hours for the older kids but that includes lunch and me telling them to get back to their computers pretty frequently!
 
Ugh, I need guidance, help me please!

Today I received a voice mail from my ds8 3rd grade teacher telling me that I needed to put my ds to bed earlier because he didn't do good on his bench mark test (he made a 45 which is an F!). So in turn when I couldn't reach her ( and I was livid at this point) I left her a not so nice message with the school receptionist, pretty much telling here what I thought about her and her teaching skills. First off my ds8 bed time is 9pm. Thats not late at all and I think it's a normal time.

My ds has been struggling all year. His grades are mostly A's and B's with a few C's thrown in the mix. During class the teacher can't get him to concentrate, she says he's off in his own world playing video games in his head when he should be paying attention to her. He's really bad in Math and spelling. Reading he is ok but not the greatest. And his handwriting is the pits (thats my own opinion). Lets just say that this year has been the worst.

Dh and I have talked about putting him in our local public charter school but the down side to it is that he won't be able to attend until next year and that's if he gets in (lottery style). So what I am thinking about doing is pulling him out of school this year during Christmas break. Take the next six months and work with him on my own. Really concentrating on math, reading, writing, spelling. Then if he gets in have him repeat 3rd grade.

I just don't know where to start. The really good thing about homeschool is that we live in Texas! Anyone want to help me get started. I don't have a ton of cash to spend right now to go out and buy whole curriculum's at this moment.

Thanks Sabrina
 
Ugh, I need guidance, help me please!

Today I received a voice mail from my ds8 3rd grade teacher telling me that I needed to put my ds to bed earlier because he didn't do good on his bench mark test (he made a 45 which is an F!). So in turn when I couldn't reach her ( and I was livid at this point) I left her a not so nice message with the school receptionist, pretty much telling here what I thought about her and her teaching skills. First off my ds8 bed time is 9pm. Thats not late at all and I think it's a normal time.

My ds has been struggling all year. His grades are mostly A's and B's with a few C's thrown in the mix. During class the teacher can't get him to concentrate, she says he's off in his own world playing video games in his head when he should be paying attention to her. He's really bad in Math and spelling. Reading he is ok but not the greatest. And his handwriting is the pits (thats my own opinion). Lets just say that this year has been the worst.

Dh and I have talked about putting him in our local public charter school but the down side to it is that he won't be able to attend until next year and that's if he gets in (lottery style). So what I am thinking about doing is pulling him out of school this year during Christmas break. Take the next six months and work with him on my own. Really concentrating on math, reading, writing, spelling. Then if he gets in have him repeat 3rd grade.

I just don't know where to start. The really good thing about homeschool is that we live in Texas! Anyone want to help me get started. I don't have a ton of cash to spend right now to go out and buy whole curriculum's at this moment.

Thanks Sabrina
Sounds like homeschooling is going to be right up his alley. I think it's unfortunate that a teacher would say that he is playing video games in his head. Does he play a lot of video games in his free time at home?

If you cannot afford curriculum right now, maybe you should think about one of the internet schools out there. We use Connections Academy. It is not for everyone. I use it b/c I have 5 kids and I don't have the time to come up with curriculum for 5 different age levels between school, training, teaching karate, and dealing with health issues. We were going to attempt to use Sonlight curriculum this year, which I think my daughter's would've loved, but were unable to due to a surprise move. Two days before we left for Disney in May we found out the owner of our last house was going to rent the house to his friends, so we needed to find a new house. We went to Disney, enjoyed ourselves immensely, came home, packed up our house, moved to my parents' house for 3 weeks, bought a new house, moved in, and then realized we didn't have the time or funds to do Sonlight. So...here we are back at Connections! We actually love it this year b/c they changed a lot, so it is a much better fit for our kids. Anyway, back on subject. Connections and some of the other K-12 internet schools are considered public schools. They are completely free to attend. You will have to provide them with some information from the schools such as state testing, and will have to do some placement testing to get started. It's not a hard process if you fax all the info to them, and we are getting ready to start a new semester in January, so if you move fast you will be just in time. Maybe he will not even have to repeat 3rd grade if he does well enough.

I will tell you a little about Connections so you know what to expect in case you are interested. Like I said, it is a public school, so the money that would be directed to your son's school that he attends right now would be directed instead to the internet school of your choosing. I know for sure this is how Connections works, but I cannot attest for any others. You could go right on their website to get the process started. In our state each child gets their own computer, so we have 5 Connections computers in our house. I don't know if that is how they do it in your state. About every 3 months we get an internet subsidy card to help pay for your internet. It's $50 for 3 months I think. You obviously already have internet, so it will be a bonus to have someone help you pay for it. Your son would be required to take state testing, but Connections has tons of resources to make sure they are ready for it. Your son would have a teacher that he has to keep in contact with through phone calls, live lessons, and webmails (essentially emails but only within the school, not public). You can choose to do outings with the school or not. He would be required to submit certain projects online or via mail that are called portfolios. This has improved greatly b/c they listened to parent feedback and cut down the number of portfolios required. They aren't hard projects at all. You can schedule lessons to work with your schedule. Anything you do outside the curriculum counts as school credit. For instance, we do karate, play outside, chores, lunch time, etc...and it all counts. As for state testing, the school gives us a gas card for driving out to whatever testing location is closest to you.

Hope that helps. If you are interested in going that route, and have more questions, let me know. I too had to pull my kids out of school at one time. It was a mess, but I refused to let a principal tell me he didn't want families to participate in school activities. What? Don't parents take an interest in what their kids do at school anymore? He didn't want us to come watch our kids put on a veterans day show, and he was mad when we showed up for the Halloween parties. Who ever heard of a Halloween school party where parents aren't allowed to help out? We moved them to another school where the principal was phenomenal. I was sorry to move out of that school district. That's when we chose our current path.
 
Sounds like homeschooling is going to be right up his alley. I think it's unfortunate that a teacher would say that he is playing video games in his head. Does he play a lot of video games in his free time at home?

If you cannot afford curriculum right now, maybe you should think about one of the internet schools out there. We use Connections Academy. It is not for everyone. I use it b/c I have 5 kids and I don't have the time to come up with curriculum for 5 different age levels between school, training, teaching karate, and dealing with health issues. We were going to attempt to use Sonlight curriculum this year, which I think my daughter's would've loved, but were unable to due to a surprise move. Two days before we left for Disney in May we found out the owner of our last house was going to rent the house to his friends, so we needed to find a new house. We went to Disney, enjoyed ourselves immensely, came home, packed up our house, moved to my parents' house for 3 weeks, bought a new house, moved in, and then realized we didn't have the time or funds to do Sonlight. So...here we are back at Connections! We actually love it this year b/c they changed a lot, so it is a much better fit for our kids. Anyway, back on subject. Connections and some of the other K-12 internet schools are considered public schools. They are completely free to attend. You will have to provide them with some information from the schools such as state testing, and will have to do some placement testing to get started. It's not a hard process if you fax all the info to them, and we are getting ready to start a new semester in January, so if you move fast you will be just in time. Maybe he will not even have to repeat 3rd grade if he does well enough.

I will tell you a little about Connections so you know what to expect in case you are interested. Like I said, it is a public school, so the money that would be directed to your son's school that he attends right now would be directed instead to the internet school of your choosing. I know for sure this is how Connections works, but I cannot attest for any others. You could go right on their website to get the process started. In our state each child gets their own computer, so we have 5 Connections computers in our house. I don't know if that is how they do it in your state. About every 3 months we get an internet subsidy card to help pay for your internet. It's $50 for 3 months I think. You obviously already have internet, so it will be a bonus to have someone help you pay for it. Your son would be required to take state testing, but Connections has tons of resources to make sure they are ready for it. Your son would have a teacher that he has to keep in contact with through phone calls, live lessons, and webmails (essentially emails but only within the school, not public). You can choose to do outings with the school or not. He would be required to submit certain projects online or via mail that are called portfolios. This has improved greatly b/c they listened to parent feedback and cut down the number of portfolios required. They aren't hard projects at all. You can schedule lessons to work with your schedule. Anything you do outside the curriculum counts as school credit. For instance, we do karate, play outside, chores, lunch time, etc...and it all counts. As for state testing, the school gives us a gas card for driving out to whatever testing location is closest to you.

Hope that helps. If you are interested in going that route, and have more questions, let me know. I too had to pull my kids out of school at one time. It was a mess, but I refused to let a principal tell me he didn't want families to participate in school activities. What? Don't parents take an interest in what their kids do at school anymore? He didn't want us to come watch our kids put on a veterans day show, and he was mad when we showed up for the Halloween parties. Who ever heard of a Halloween school party where parents aren't allowed to help out? We moved them to another school where the principal was phenomenal. I was sorry to move out of that school district. That's when we chose our current path.


Thank for the info! My ds does love his video games but he's not playing all day long. He'll play for a while, then move on to some outside play with his friends. Now how can I put this... there are times that he is off in his own little word (like playing video games) in his head. LOL The only reason I know this is because he makes these gun sounds. My dh and I have to tell him to come back to our world and stop having war in his head. LOL He just giggles at us when we tell him that. But he is very creative, he loves to listen to the radio and make up his own songs with the music (mostly about his older sister). He loves to build things with his legos too.

It's as if he is really bored at school and the teacher can't get him to focus on his work.

Well anyways I don't think I want to have anything to do with the public schools, virtual or not. At least until next year. It's the whole state testing that I hate. Thats all our schools harp on all year, every year. I feel as if the kids aren't really learning anything but how to pass a test. I know it stresses both of my kids out. I guess I just wish the schools would get back to teaching the kids the fundamentals they need to succeed in life and not the fundamentals of test passing.

Thanks for your help. I will keep those virtual schools in mind.
 
Well, I sent in the letter of intent to homeschool this morning. I know that this is the best choice for my daughter, especially since the bullying has advanced to tripping her in the hall, but there is a part of me that just wants to sit here and cry.
 
Ugh, I need guidance, help me please!

Today I received a voice mail from my ds8 3rd grade teacher telling me that I needed to put my ds to bed earlier because he didn't do good on his bench mark test (he made a 45 which is an F!). So in turn when I couldn't reach her ( and I was livid at this point) I left her a not so nice message with the school receptionist, pretty much telling here what I thought about her and her teaching skills. First off my ds8 bed time is 9pm. Thats not late at all and I think it's a normal time.

My ds has been struggling all year. His grades are mostly A's and B's with a few C's thrown in the mix. During class the teacher can't get him to concentrate, she says he's off in his own world playing video games in his head when he should be paying attention to her. He's really bad in Math and spelling. Reading he is ok but not the greatest. And his handwriting is the pits (thats my own opinion). Lets just say that this year has been the worst.

Dh and I have talked about putting him in our local public charter school but the down side to it is that he won't be able to attend until next year and that's if he gets in (lottery style). So what I am thinking about doing is pulling him out of school this year during Christmas break. Take the next six months and work with him on my own. Really concentrating on math, reading, writing, spelling. Then if he gets in have him repeat 3rd grade.

I just don't know where to start. The really good thing about homeschool is that we live in Texas! Anyone want to help me get started. I don't have a ton of cash to spend right now to go out and buy whole curriculum's at this moment.

Thanks Sabrina

I honestly think your ds sounds like he has a learning style that doesn't fit into the tiny box that kids need to fit into to succeed in a regular school setting. I honestly think homeschooling sounds like it could be a wonderful opportunity for him to become the best he can be.

You don't need money, you don't need to buy a curriculum. What I mainly do (especially in the younger grades), is buy a "national standards" workbook for the grade (from Walmart, Sam's Club, wherever), open it up, see what the average 3rd grader is learning, and teach it to my children in their own learning style. This has made a world of difference in my kids (especially my ds10) academic success.

I would seriously consider homeschooling him longer than just the rest of the year, if this is something that's possible for your family. He sounds like a very creative child. You should google "right brained learners" and read a bit about it, and see if you think that may be him. It may not be, but there are so many learning styles and combinations of them, and he may need info presented to him in a different way than school can, and possibly in a different order than school does too.

Just something to think about.
 
tikilyn - I know you said that you have limited funds for purchasing curriculum, but what is the ball park for what you could invest for this upcoming semester?

I personally spent only $285 for all of our upcoming 7th grade books. This is very cheap for us considering when we first started homeschooling, I was spending $800. I felt like I had to have everything but after 8 years of homeschooling, I have it down to the essentials.

There are several websites that I can point you to that sell discounted curriculums.

I think the hardest decision you are going to have to make is - what curriculum(s) you want to use. There are tons and each with their own good and bad qualities.

My experience:
I have used a variety of math programs in the past: BJU, Saxon and now Teaching Textbooks. I personally would never use BJU again, Saxon (was a good transition program) but I love Teaching Textbooks CDs (this is where the bulk of my money went this year over $120 worth). My son struggled in math for several years, in fact, I think BJU did more damage than good - so I spend more money for this subject. He enjoys math now and doesn't view it as a punishment.

Handwriting is one of those things that comes with lots of practice. My son's handwriting was horrible but with all the writing and practicing we have done, its at least legible.

We use Shurley English and it requires a lot of diagramming and writing. Now, this is the subject he saves til last but he is very good at it.

Spelling is a subject that I can definitely sympathize with you. I have used BJU, Squential Spelling and now Apples. (He loves to read - you would naturally think he would be a great speller, but no). Unfortunately, I can't offer any suggestions for this one since I haven't really found one that works for us.

Reading is something I also can't help with. Isaiah loves to read, in fact, he would rather read than play which has been the subject of my recent posts.

You also need to keep in mind that it normally takes a child several weeks to settle down to do school at home and think of mommy as the teacher. So, even though, you will only be doing this for a couple of months be prepared for a little resistance to begin with.

Good Luck!
 
Well, I sent in the letter of intent to homeschool this morning. I know that this is the best choice for my daughter, especially since the bullying has advanced to tripping her in the hall, but there is a part of me that just wants to sit here and cry.

First, :hug:

Ok, instead of wanting to sit there and cry, think about sitting there and rejoicing. You get your dd back!! You're no longer "tied" to a school's schedule. You guys are FREE! She's no longer going to be subjected to ridiculous bullying THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN IN REAL LIFE. No one is walking down the mall, or in the supermarket, or in the workplace, and getting tripped by someone else. The "socialization" they get in school is confined to school, not real life. She can now get REAL LIFE socialization. Join some homeschooling groups, go on some field trips (even if it's just the 2 of you). Relax with the structured learning at first. Enjoy each other and this wonderful, amazing world that has just opened up to you guys.

My kids (dd12 and ds10) went to school until 4th/2nd grades. I'd never, ever go back to that lifestyle of sending them off for most of the day, being tied to a schedule, them having to learn what someone else thinks is important, then not being able to follow their interests that can lead to passions, then not being able to learn the way they learn best (I can tailor their learning to their individual learning styles). We can travel whenever we want. They learn SO MUCH when we travel. Even locally.

Enjoy this gift you've been given.

:hug:
 
Thank for the info! My ds does love his video games but he's not playing all day long. He'll play for a while, then move on to some outside play with his friends. Now how can I put this... there are times that he is off in his own little word (like playing video games) in his head. LOL The only reason I know this is because he makes these gun sounds. My dh and I have to tell him to come back to our world and stop having war in his head. LOL He just giggles at us when we tell him that. But he is very creative, he loves to listen to the radio and make up his own songs with the music (mostly about his older sister). He loves to build things with his legos too.

It's as if he is really bored at school and the teacher can't get him to focus on his work.

Well anyways I don't think I want to have anything to do with the public schools, virtual or not. At least until next year. It's the whole state testing that I hate. Thats all our schools harp on all year, every year. I feel as if the kids aren't really learning anything but how to pass a test. I know it stresses both of my kids out. I guess I just wish the schools would get back to teaching the kids the fundamentals they need to succeed in life and not the fundamentals of test passing.

Thanks for your help. I will keep those virtual schools in mind.
Whatever you choose, I am sure you will find your son will thrive. I do want to say that the main focus of our virtual school is not the state testing. I did not want you to think that they drill that. They don't. We have one thing that comes up in our schedules as a lesson each week, but it is more fun than anything else. There are options for completing it, one of which is actually game mode. We choose to do test mode to get past it fast. Like I said, it's not drilled. They actually offered free tutoring this year to kids who didn't feel strong in any subject. We opted out b/c we don't have to time for it.

There are other options for getting curriculum cheaper than usual. When we were trying to do Sonlight, I researched which books we would need and then started buying on ebay. I got about $800 in books for $100. I just couldn't do the curriculum like I explained earlier. The only problem with this method is that it takes time. Good luck deciding on your curriculum. It does sound like he will thrive outside the regular school environment.

I am also glad he doesn't play too many video games. It is a major problem we have to deal with in the karate studio on a daily basis. It's a strange phenomenon. When you look around at a class of 30, you can tell which kids have their heads on video games, Tv, etc... They tend not to be able to look in your eye. They sometimes don't hear us when we speak either. I have to teach them to use their imaginations again. I know it sounds silly, but sometimes I will play imaginary dodgeball with the kids. They usually look at me kind of funny. I explain that I want them to learn to use their imaginations, so we will not be using real balls for our game of dodgeball. I then explain that they still have to run to the line to grab their imaginary ball, and if they get hit by the imaginary ball, I expect honesty, and they are to do one pushup and get back in the game. I am telling you it is the funniest thing in the world. Suddenly I have 30 kids doing these amazing dodge the ball tactics. They are jumping, spinning, diving, throwing, etc...AND I see them doing their pushups after getting hit with the imaginary ball. I love it! I know that was way off subject, but I was thinking about it, so I typed it!!!

I did have the same problem with my son with school. He is CRAZY smart, but very creative. He would rush through his work so he could draw a picture on the back. His teacher would show me these beautiful creations, but the work he did on the actual test paper was not up to the standards of what he could do. Homeschooling has been better for him b/c he gets plenty of time to do the creative things he likes to do...building insane lego structures, drawing, music, teaching himself to play guitar, etc...

Good luck!

Well, I sent in the letter of intent to homeschool this morning. I know that this is the best choice for my daughter, especially since the bullying has advanced to tripping her in the hall, but there is a part of me that just wants to sit here and cry.

I know it is stressful, but you will make it through. My son was bullied pretty badly in school, and I don't regret taking the kids out. They are much more confident now. They are able to move through life without having to deal with worry about getting hurt every day at school. They still learn to deal with everyday issues by being around their siblings who pick on them, but it is not dangerous, so I feel it is a more healthy environment. They are also around tons of kids at church and karate and get such great fellowship with people of like minds and morals. Good luck with your decision. I am sure you will not regret it.

First, :hug:

Ok, instead of wanting to sit there and cry, think about sitting there and rejoicing. You get your dd back!! You're no longer "tied" to a school's schedule. You guys are FREE! She's no longer going to be subjected to ridiculous bullying THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN IN REAL LIFE. No one is walking down the mall, or in the supermarket, or in the workplace, and getting tripped by someone else. The "socialization" they get in school is confined to school, not real life. She can now get REAL LIFE socialization. Join some homeschooling groups, go on some field trips (even if it's just the 2 of you). Relax with the structured learning at first. Enjoy each other and this wonderful, amazing world that has just opened up to you guys.

My kids (dd12 and ds10) went to school until 4th/2nd grades. I'd never, ever go back to that lifestyle of sending them off for most of the day, being tied to a schedule, them having to learn what someone else thinks is important, then not being able to follow their interests that can lead to passions, then not being able to learn the way they learn best (I can tailor their learning to their individual learning styles). We can travel whenever we want. They learn SO MUCH when we travel. Even locally.

Enjoy this gift you've been given.

:hug:
True, true, true!!!!
 
Thanks guys :)

I guess part of what is killing me is that she was in such a good school in VA with a fantastic gifted program, and great teachers that were involved and really cared. If there were conflicts, the teachers saw them and were involved. The guidance councilor gave classes on conflict resolution and the kids actually had the ability to have mediation between them and reach their own solutions to problems. There was very little bullying, because it was seen, addressed, and nipped in the bud. We were spoiled by what a school should be.

Here, not so much. It is one of those schools where the teachers show up when they have to, leave when the bell rings, and really don't pay attention--there is no supervision in the halls between classes, they have parent volunteers on the playground and in the lunchroom instead of teachers...and it has been h-e-double hockey sticks for her. I am just hoping we moved in time and that irreparible damage has not been done to her.

It isnt the challenge of doing this that bothers me, although it is always a little scary embarking on a new adventure, it is the fact that it hurts to see what they have done to her and the hope I can recover her love of learning and defeat the attitude that she is stupid and useless and ugly that they have taught her to think about herself.

Thank you all for being here for me.
 
Thanks everyone! I have a lot to think about now. I really want to try to homeschool but am really nervous about it too. What if I fail him and he doesn't get anything out of it.
 
Thanks everyone! I have a lot to think about now. I really want to try to homeschool but am really nervous about it too. What if I fail him and he doesn't get anything out of it.

I would think that the majority of us would tell you we were all apprehensive starting out in the homeschooling adventure. Personally, I think that as parents, we are the best teachers for our children. You know your son best, his strengths and weaknesses....how best to reach him in motivation and discipline.... and the most important of all ---you love him and want what is best for him.

To help encourage you, I would suggest looking for a local active homeschool group....meet with some of the parents and just share some one-on-one time gathering information about local resources. I love our homeschool group --- we were very active before we moved --- but they are still a wonderful asset to me when I have questions or need encouragement. Since finding this thread, everyone has been wonderful with answering questions and offering suggestions from their experiences.

Keep in mind, that you will be able to provide one-on-one attention to your son. If he has a question or doesn't understand a concept, he has all of your time and attention. You can take 15 minutes or 2 hours to explain a math problem....you can teach it as a game, using shaving cream, with window paint, etc......these are all things that the classroom teacher can't give your child.

And always remember, you were his teacher first!
 
Thanks everyone! I have a lot to think about now. I really want to try to homeschool but am really nervous about it too. What if I fail him and he doesn't get anything out of it.


First, I think we all feel like this at one point or another. I have a degree in El. Ed. and there are still some days where I wonder if I can do it. That comes from your undying love to protect and do the best you can with your child...after all if your child is not learning you cannot blame the school, teachers, etc. ;) My advise is to read read read. Do some searches at your local library for homeschooling books. There are tons out there written about every facet of this journey! Find some that interest you and dive in. I may be a nerd, but I always have a book with me. I find it calming and energizing to sneak in a few pages here and there...plus, it is great for the little ones to see you reading. Also, look up homeschooling conferences in your area and try to attend at least one. It is amazing how encouraging they can be. You will learn so much and will be so excited to begin the journey. Plus, it is great to look at the curricula in person and see what works best for your family. Know that your are not alone and you can do this! :grouphug:
 
Thanks everyone! I have a lot to think about now. I really want to try to homeschool but am really nervous about it too. What if I fail him and he doesn't get anything out of it.

You won't fail him. I had the same worries when I started my kids. I worried that I wouldn't be able to teach my daughter how to read. With virtual school for her age, I still was the main person doing the teaching, I was just given the lesson plans instead of having to make them myself. She thrived and is one of the best readers in my family. Now I have no fear teaching my youngest. Your love and concern will give you the strength to do this. If you notice an area that needs tweaking, focus on that a bit. That's why I do sequential spelling. I noticed my daughter's spelling was not improving, so we concentrate on that with all the kids. Next I will be working on math facts b/c I don't feel they got enough of that. You will do fine.
 
I want to send out a great big "Congratulations" to my son Nicholas who has finished his first sementer of college with a perfect 4.0 GPA!!! When he started the semester I was hoping and praying that he would make the Dean's List, so I wouldn't have to worry about him losing his scholarship. Well he has done better than I had hoped for. He made the Chancellor's List!!! Clark and I are extremely proud of him!!! We ♥ You Nick!!!
 














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