Homeschool Chat Part III

Don't y'all hate that 'weird' stigma for Hsing? I do...I mean, geez, I don't want to sound 'bragg-y", but, my kids are really very, very smart and the middle one especially would be called weird FOR SURE if they were in Public
School. they just have different interests than most kids their age, so they would be picked on for it. so,..I guess the option is: be weird at school and picked on, or be at home and be labelled weird for homeschooling....I would personally rather be at home! At least here, you are surrounded by people who love you!! I know people think I am weird too!!! I am such a bookworm, and my personality is just very academia!:rotfl: I mean,...that's just me, and people even way back in elementary made fun of me for being 'smart' or for reading so much..I am NEVER without books to read.So....do y'all think so too? I mean, do y'all here that as much as I do?
I really don't want my kids to act like the majority of the kids in their peer groups anyway!

I think it is sad that in our society you are labeled weird if you are confident, kind, and are friends with your family members. Several of my friend's children have been labeled weird for such reasons! :sad2:
 
I need some suggestions for my son. He is in KG and has never been to school. He enjoys space, animals, can tell you how gravity and momentum work, all sorts of advanced concepts but when it comes to school work, he has no desire to do it. He could care less what the names of numbers are and hates to color. He tries to hurry through school to get done with it. We are using a very active hands on curriculum and he likes the experiements and activities, but it is a struggle to get him to do the backbone worksheets and ideas.

Most of the other kids in the family are girls, so I think that is putting some pressure on me because they are loving school and doing great with it...but as we all know, boys and girls are very different.

Any suggestions? Do I need to just chill? :goodvibes
 
jacksmomma, I understand what your going through. My son is like this. He doesn't want to feel like he is doing work. Anything he does that's educational has to be disguised as play. That's the wonderful thing about Epcot, when we go there, my son has no idea he is learning. :thumbsup2

As far as wierdness and the kids go, I can say that before I pulled my 18 year old out, the kids wouldn't have anything to do with her because she was very friendly and peppy. She loved people and was so sweet and loving. But I watched from Kindergarten through 2nd grade as she was gradually broken down and became a very different and sad little girl. She couldn't understand why the kids didn't like her. Honestly, I couldn't understand either. when we quit and joined our church homeschool group, she got along with the kids so well...go figure.

I have decided that "wierd" to many kids(not all) in regular school is when your kids are not doing backflips to copy whatever the popular kid/kids are doing. I think I would rather mine be wierd. ;)
 
jacksmomma, I understand what your going through. My son is like this. He doesn't want to feel like he is doing work. Anything he does that's educational has to be disguised as play. That's the wonderful thing about Epcot, when we go there, my son has no idea he is learning. :thumbsup2

So true! We spend a lot of time at museums because he does not realize all the work he is doing...boys are a breed all their own! :goodvibes
 

I really don't want my kids to act like the majority of the kids in their peer groups anyway!


Exactly. ODS's group is "okay", a little jockey (for him, it leaves him out of a lot) and kind of "frat boy" but nothing too scary. DD, on the other hand, is in the scariest group of kids I think I've ever seen. 4th grade and it is like discipline problems raining down all over the grade as a whole. It isn't little stuff either, it is major disrespect of adults and other students, as well as just a general lack of conscious. YDS is too little to see those signs, but I will say the kids coming up behind DD's class don't seem to be that much better. I'll take "weird" over "bound for juvenile detention" any day.

In defense of DH, homeschooling here is VERY rare. It is also looked on with scorn ("Oh, they are going to HOMEschool." Eyeroll, eyeroll.) There is one community that exclusively homeschools (well, they sort of have their OWN school but I think it is classified as homeschool) and a few assorted families that go it on their own - mostly through virtual schools - but it isn't wide spread at all. Also, when we were growing up I can only think of ONE family that homeschooled. DH didn't know them, so they wouldn't color his opinion, but they WERE weird. It had nothing to do with homeschooling, though. The parents rarely let them out of the house, they didn't see anyone on a regular basis besides the parents. They just had NO idea how to act around anyone. Looking back, I wonder if their mom was agoraphobic. They did come to VBS but always rode with someone who invited them. The dad worked but I don't EVER remember the mother being around. That might have had more to do with their personalities.
 
I know to check our states HS laws (any TN HS's here?) I guess, technically, I lean more towards what many consider "unschooling" although I don't really intend to just let them do whatever all the time. I just don't want to do "school" at home and be sitting around doing worksheets and pointing and clicking all the time - I mean what's the point?

Yes! We are also in TN. We are just starting this year with K, so I do have it much easier than you. My second won't start school for another year and a half, officially. She has work that she does just as much.

Feel free to PM me about any specific questions you have. What I don't know I can ask others that do.

We have chosen to operate under an "umbrella" school. Technically we are a satellite campus for them and I am able to teach my children. As for your mom, the parent is required to do at least half of the teaching. There is a family in our Classical Conversations group that share teaching between a mom and a grandmother.

I think it is great that your DH is thinking about you and your time.
 
I think it is sad that in our society you are labeled weird if you are confident, kind, and are friends with your family members. Several of my friend's children have been labeled weird for such reasons! :sad2:
AMEN!!
I need some suggestions for my son. He is in KG and has never been to school. He enjoys space, animals, can tell you how gravity and momentum work, all sorts of advanced concepts but when it comes to school work, he has no desire to do it. He could care less what the names of numbers are and hates to color. He tries to hurry through school to get done with it. We are using a very active hands on curriculum and he likes the experiements and activities, but it is a struggle to get him to do the backbone worksheets and ideas.

Most of the other kids in the family are girls, so I think that is putting some pressure on me because they are loving school and doing great with it...but as we all know, boys and girls are very different.

Any suggestions? Do I need to just chill? :goodvibes
I think maybe just get him library books on every thing he likes!! they learn soooo much from reading what they like...I guess that's what interest directed learning is based on...my middle one is like this...I do make him do his school work now, but when he was younger, he would DEVOUR books about what subject tickled his fancy at the time: Mammals, Dinos, planes, space, marine animals...it's great for them!
 
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A little OT here but it sounds like something HSers would want to do.......does anyone know about these educational classes that they do at Disney? I saw something on disneyyouth.com but I would like to get some recommendations of someone who has actually done it. So you get discounted tickets for your entire party? Just wondering if anyone has heard of/done one of these and what advice you can give me. Thanks!!

 
A little OT here but it sounds like something HSers would want to do.......does anyone know about these educational classes that they do at Disney? I saw something on disneyyouth.com but I would like to get some recommendations of someone who has actually done it. So you get discounted tickets for your entire party? Just wondering if anyone has heard of/done one of these and what advice you can give me. Thanks!!


We did one this summer. We did Synergy in Science. It was okay. I wasn't blown away by it. Truthfully, though I didn't see a lot of the instruction that the Disney Castmember did with the kids, she would always take them off in a group and ask parents to wait to the side. My three (7,8,12 at the time) didn't rave about it, but they didn't complain either. If you want to know more about what we did, PM me and I'll be happy to explain further.

Yes, my three kids participated and all six of us (the kids + DH, I, and Teen Stepson) got discounted tickets.
 
We did one this summer. We did Synergy in Science. It was okay. I wasn't blown away by it. Truthfully, though I didn't see a lot of the instruction that the Disney Castmember did with the kids, she would always take them off in a group and ask parents to wait to the side. My three (7,8,12 at the time) didn't rave about it, but they didn't complain either. If you want to know more about what we did, PM me and I'll be happy to explain further.

Yes, my three kids participated and all six of us (the kids + DH, I, and Teen Stepson) got discounted tickets.

Interesting. Our local homeschooler's association is going in December of 2013 if I am not mistaken. I think it will be fun to go with a group of friends!
 
A little OT here but it sounds like something HSers would want to do.......does anyone know about these educational classes that they do at Disney? I saw something on disneyyouth.com but I would like to get some recommendations of someone who has actually done it. So you get discounted tickets for your entire party? Just wondering if anyone has heard of/done one of these and what advice you can give me. Thanks!!


I was looking for more info for this as well. I saw your post and looked up a few things under Homeschooler Days. It looks as though your entire party can go for about $153 each for a five day, non parkhoopper ticket. When I compared this with regular prices, it saved us about $350 and includes one program. What I'd like to know is if I could then book a room separately under the up to 35% off deal or get free dining since they do call what you get a package (I think this is less likely). With us staring homeschooling this year, I quit my job and I don't see my new direct selling business bringing in the big bucks! I'm looking for anyway I can save and I think this program sounds really good, especially with the discount offered.
Jessica
 
I was looking for more info for this as well. I saw your post and looked up a few things under Homeschooler Days. It looks as though your entire party can go for about $153 each for a five day, non parkhoopper ticket. When I compared this with regular prices, it saved us about $350 and includes one program. What I'd like to know is if I could then book a room separately under the up to 35% off deal or get free dining since they do call what you get a package (I think this is less likely). With us staring homeschooling this year, I quit my job and I don't see my new direct selling business bringing in the big bucks! I'm looking for anyway I can save and I think this program sounds really good, especially with the discount offered.
Jessica

I don't think you can get free dining, that requires you to reserve a rack rate room and 2 day minimum regular price park tickets (I think.) I think you could reserve a room using a discount, though....I can't see why they wouldn't let you do that.
 
That's kind of how I saw it southern redhead. It would save a lot if we could do it that way.
Jessica
 
I have some questions for those who do unit studies and lapbooks (not necessarily that do them together LOL.) If you do unit studies, how do you determine what units you will do and when? For instance, do you have a big list and follow it in order? Do you have a big list and pick from it depending on what you or the kids feel like? Or do you just sort of wing it from unit to unit? I don't think I could wing it completely, but I could probably wing it from year to year. Also, how long do your units last? I was assuming they were six to nine week units, but it appears that many people do 1-3 week units? I was looking at building the unit more around a historical aspect/period, so I was thinking there would be so much information available that it could easily swallow six weeks... I can see where, for younger kids especially, a 1 week unit on frogs or a state would be better. And, last, if you homeschool multiple ages/skill levels - do you still use one unit study for everyone? I was thinking I should be able to do so. I do think that it will require quite a bit of tailoring in some areas (my 7 going on 8 year old is on an end of Kindergarten level so he would need some fairly simple projects that would build foundational skills, my 9 year old could be advanced if she applied herself and the 12 year old is above level for reading.... I think they could handle more detailed work and do some research and writing on their own to build out what they are doing.) I also want to try to build in field trips (tons!) to our units, my kids learn best by being out and doing ... so do I! ... how do you count that in your curriculum? For instance - a trip to the Indian burial mounds could count as history, loosely science (if you study the area/animals of the area/plants of the area), and PE (it is a BUNCH of walking), right? What else? Language Arts if they compose a paper/story on the trip? Art if they draw or build some of what they see?

Okay, lapbooks, they have me a little confused LOL This appears to be like a supplement to what you are learning, correct? So, taking the Indian idea again... I could have them each build a lapbook about a different aspect of Indian life and each lapbook would be appropriate to their skill level? So my youngest could do one on something like a general way of life and have lots of drawings and simple sentences, he could have some "crafts" that he makes and puts in there.... The older ones could pick a more narrow topic like hunting, or marriage ceremonies, or the life of an Indian Chief and then do more advanced things. They could research each topic in smaller areas and have little fold outs that break them down... etc...? I'm just wondering if lapbooks would be of better use for the younger one, it sounds like it might be a little difficult to make the older ones age appropriate. I've looked online at the lapbook materials you can print out, they seem to be for younger children (mostly coloring pictures, little books in the shapes of things) Does anyone have examples of an older child's lapbooks? The Indian thing was just an idea, LOL, it isn't even a unit I'd likely start out with.

Oh, and one last question (for anyone who has brought one home from PS) ... If we come home mid-December, to correspond with the school break ... We would probably start back up with "something" about the time school goes back into session. However, since my kids need to go back a year (or more for ODS) in math and are good LA students ... would you spend that first "unit" just as a review? I would think practicing basics that are at the top of their math level for a while would be beneficial. I want to make sure that they have what they know "down" before we start trying to move beyond it. Also, they are good LA students, but so much has been left out or glossed over. I can think of many things I think they should know right now but they either don't or just have the most basic knowledge of it. I was thinking we could brush up on some of that.

Aaah, I lied :laughing: This is my last question (for this post :rolleyes1): If you go "year round" what is your schedule? I wasn't so much interested in a PS-type 6 wks on/3wks off schedule as just splitting the long break we get in the summer up into 2 shorter breaks and taking them at a different time (maybe fall and spring? or late summer and mid winter?) Does anyone do something similar? I have to have 180 days of instruction and 4 hrs for each of those days. I think that should be fairly easy to cover...
 
I was looking for more info for this as well. I saw your post and looked up a few things under Homeschooler Days. It looks as though your entire party can go for about $153 each for a five day, non parkhoopper ticket. When I compared this with regular prices, it saved us about $350 and includes one program. What I'd like to know is if I could then book a room separately under the up to 35% off deal or get free dining since they do call what you get a package (I think this is less likely). With us staring homeschooling this year, I quit my job and I don't see my new direct selling business bringing in the big bucks! I'm looking for anyway I can save and I think this program sounds really good, especially with the discount offered.
Jessica

We love Disney Y.E.S. Programs. We have done homeschool days as well as Individual Enrollment. It is great they now offer so many Individual Enrollment classes. This past trip we had 8 day park hoppers plus 8 visits to the waterparks or Disney quest ( these can be used same day as parks or additional days) I believe our tickets (including class) were @$204 each!!!

Then we stayed in a three bedroom condo at Windsor Hills (5 minutes from Animal Kingdom) for $299 a week for two weeks. Rented a full-size car for 10 days for total of $154.

Thank you Disney Youth Education Series for providing an awesome program with amazing savings.

We have loved classes offered. As with many things in life it is what you make of it. If you have any questions pm me. My goal each trip is stay longer, spend less, and do something we have never done before. Y.E.S. has provided the means for this to happen.

(I will have to proofread this later- typing on my phone :-)
 
I have some questions for those who do unit studies and lapbooks (not necessarily that do them together LOL.) If you do unit studies, how do you determine what units you will do and when? For instance, do you have a big list and follow it in order? Do you have a big list and pick from it depending on what you or the kids feel like? Or do you just sort of wing it from unit to unit? I don't think I could wing it completely, but I could probably wing it from year to year. Also, how long do your units last? I was assuming they were six to nine week units, but it appears that many people do 1-3 week units? I was looking at building the unit more around a historical aspect/period, so I was thinking there would be so much information available that it could easily swallow six weeks... I can see where, for younger kids especially, a 1 week unit on frogs or a state would be better. And, last, if you homeschool multiple ages/skill levels - do you still use one unit study for everyone? I was thinking I should be able to do so. I do think that it will require quite a bit of tailoring in some areas (my 7 going on 8 year old is on an end of Kindergarten level so he would need some fairly simple projects that would build foundational skills, my 9 year old could be advanced if she applied herself and the 12 year old is above level for reading.... I think they could handle more detailed work and do some research and writing on their own to build out what they are doing.) I also want to try to build in field trips (tons!) to our units, my kids learn best by being out and doing ... so do I! ... how do you count that in your curriculum? For instance - a trip to the Indian burial mounds could count as history, loosely science (if you study the area/animals of the area/plants of the area), and PE (it is a BUNCH of walking), right? What else? Language Arts if they compose a paper/story on the trip? Art if they draw or build some of what they see?

We do not really do unit studies. They really did not work well for us, so I will let someone else address that. I will say that we do use unit studies for specific things that may come up. For example, we went to the Grand Canyon earlier this year. Before going, we did a unit study about the Canyon. For our everyday schooling, though, we do not do them.

Okay, lapbooks, they have me a little confused LOL This appears to be like a supplement to what you are learning, correct? So, taking the Indian idea again... I could have them each build a lapbook about a different aspect of Indian life and each lapbook would be appropriate to their skill level? So my youngest could do one on something like a general way of life and have lots of drawings and simple sentences, he could have some "crafts" that he makes and puts in there.... The older ones could pick a more narrow topic like hunting, or marriage ceremonies, or the life of an Indian Chief and then do more advanced things. They could research each topic in smaller areas and have little fold outs that break them down... etc...? I'm just wondering if lapbooks would be of better use for the younger one, it sounds like it might be a little difficult to make the older ones age appropriate. I've looked online at the lapbook materials you can print out, they seem to be for younger children (mostly coloring pictures, little books in the shapes of things) Does anyone have examples of an older child's lapbooks? The Indian thing was just an idea, LOL, it isn't even a unit I'd likely start out with.

We love lapbooking and notebooking here. We use it mostly as a form of review. Notebooking may work well for your olders. Notebooking has many of the same elements as lapbooking (minibooks, etc) but it also allows for more writing -- more areas for the student to put things they have learned in their own words. Think of it as a cross between lapbooking and journaling.

To answer you questions though. You could do as you mentioned in your post or have them do the same but maybe have your older ones write in more details. There are many sites out there that offer notebooking pages (some free and some not), but here is an example of what it looks like.

http://www.squidoo.com/notebookingexhibit

Like I mentioned though, we use it as a review and to re-enforce the things we have learned. It is also nice to have them come evaluation time. :)

Oh, and one last question (for anyone who has brought one home from PS) ... If we come home mid-December, to correspond with the school break ... We would probably start back up with "something" about the time school goes back into session. However, since my kids need to go back a year (or more for ODS) in math and are good LA students ... would you spend that first "unit" just as a review? I would think practicing basics that are at the top of their math level for a while would be beneficial. I want to make sure that they have what they know "down" before we start trying to move beyond it. Also, they are good LA students, but so much has been left out or glossed over. I can think of many things I think they should know right now but they either don't or just have the most basic knowledge of it. I was thinking we could brush up on some of that.

Take some time to "de-school." Spend some time just enjoying reading together, etc. When you are ready to start up, I think a review is a good idea. You really cannot depend on grades, reports, etc, to let you know how they were doing and where they are. My youngest always received good grades and progress reports in school, and I was shocked at how much she did not know when she came home. Come to find out there were a couple of little boys in dd's class that were always willing to "help" her with her work -- read: give her the answers. Anyway, she did not know things I was led to believe she did, so a review is a good idea just to see exactly where everyone is.

Aaah, I lied :laughing: This is my last question (for this post :rolleyes1): If you go "year round" what is your schedule? I wasn't so much interested in a PS-type 6 wks on/3wks off schedule as just splitting the long break we get in the summer up into 2 shorter breaks and taking them at a different time (maybe fall and spring? or late summer and mid winter?) Does anyone do something similar? I have to have 180 days of instruction and 4 hrs for each of those days. I think that should be fairly easy to cover...

We don't really have a set schedule. Our co-op keeps us on track for part of the year, but it only meets for 24 weeks. The rest of the time we just wing it. If we have been taking a break and 1 child starts to get restless or bored, we start back up and go until we need another break or something comes up. In the end, it all gets done.

I'm sure ya'll will be fine. Remember, though, there is a learning curve involved for all of you. It can take time to find something that works not only for your children's learning style, but also for your teaching style. Both are equally important. Then it may seem that just when you find a program or a schedule that works, something happens and it all changes. That is what keeps it fun and challenging though. I hope ya'll are able to enjoy your time together.
 
I did spend the entire morning reading all 82 pages and every single post. Whew, I will get my chores done but very quickly.

Background: DS, age 8, grade 3 currently in public school in a very small community. DS has autism and is getting bullied weekly. On going problem. DS gets services from the school, speech, OT, and counseling. We home schooled from age 3-6 using ABA to teach DS language and general education.

We are looking at Wyoming Virtual Academy. Everything is free and if we don't like it we can drop and go to a homeschool system I set up. It is a division of K12 but at our State level.

Has anyone used this system and what did you think of it vs. curriculum based. I do see the ease of an online system and free is good, but then I wonder will it work for DS. What are the advantages?

DS loves computers, computer games, etc and come to him for help with my Ipad.

For now I am considering home schooling. I asked DS about what he wanted on Friday after he was hurt and he said he wanted to be with his friends at school. Then he woke up today and asked when does his home school start:lovestruc

For now we are in the research stage and trying to go slow to make sure we do what is best for DS.
 
MiniGirl - when you said evaluation time (re: the lapbooks) did you mean time for your kids to test or that you get evaluated?

I spoke to someone today who homeschools locally. They use a virtual academy, it did NOT sound like something that would work for us. So at least I know that particular one is off the table.

I thought of something else? Do most people take weekends "off"? Anyone "do" school on a Saturday or Sunday? I could see those being good "field trip" days, since DH might be available to tag along and combine schooling and family time even more.

And, does anyone have a child with dysgraphia? Looking at the checklist, I could almost say "that is my boys." I don't know how one gets a formal diagnosis (specialty eye dr?) or how on earth I would set out to have them tested for it..... I don't know that it even MATTERS if they can be labled with it, if they have almost all the symptoms. It just seems that most of what I see is taking dictation, giving quizzes orally, etc.. but surely there is something you do to help them learn to improve the handwriting besides just practicing it the same old way?
 
We are now also looking at time4learning along with a italic handwriting program and other supplements.

I spoke to a friend and WVA who confirmed that we must conform to the attendance policy set by the state. We feel that learning does include travel which in turn becomes hand on learning. I don't think this would be possible with WVA.

This evening I asked all members in our family to start to pray about this. Hopefully we will know soon what we are going to do, either homeschool or stay with the public system and work on finding a solution to the bullies.
 
We are now also looking at time4learning along with a italic handwriting program and other supplements.

I spoke to a friend and WVA who confirmed that we must conform to the attendance policy set by the state. We feel that learning does include travel which in turn becomes hand on learning. I don't think this would be possible with WVA.

This evening I asked all members in our family to start to pray about this. Hopefully we will know soon what we are going to do, either homeschool or stay with the public system and work on finding a solution to the bullies.

I bolded that because I totally agree, and it is one of the reasons I ruled out a virtual school. I have been praying daily about our tentative plans to homeschool, I will add your family to my prayer tonight. :hug: I'm so sorry you and your son are having to deal with this.
 





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