Holding a place in line?

[kaytieeldr]

I think you missed the point I was making. Only a part of the group was waiting in line. Some of them were off doing other things and the others should have waited for them before joining the line or the latecomers should have taken their rightful place at the end of the line. The ones that joined late and that were never on the line before we got there are the ones that caused us to miss the show. The only way you would be correct is if the latecomers joined the line before we got there but that wasn't the case.

No, I didn't miss your point. I completely understood that part of the group was waiting in line and then the others joined them.

I think you missed my point, that you would have missed the show either way. Didn't matter if the group all waited together from the start, or if the others joined them later--you still would have missed the show.

NO , not true. because at nemo, they tell you in the line at which point you will NOT get in to see the next show. and even if they didn't you CHOOSE whether to spend the time waiting based on the number of people ahead of you. if" I would have missed the show either way" I would like to know that BEFORE i make the very important decision to waste my time standing in that line. while my [party could be doing other things.. Oh! like your party was! very rude.

I will never have a problem with those who are already in line, waiting, leaving and returning to use the bathroom, whatever. you cannot REJOIN a line you were never in.

Correct. So when the CM doesn't tell you you won't get in, you will get in. Except all those incomplete parties ahead of you keep pushing the line back as the rest of their respective groups jump in line.

 

[DisneyDude71]

not true. I have joined the line in august for the nemo show, and there was a "cut off" point, where they told you if you joined the line now,k you will be in line for the show after this one. this was based on the number of people IN line. and I have seen people who were in line before the cut off point get shut out, because more were let in than they thought. If I am deciding to wait in a line based on my EXPECTED entrance.. it doesn't matter to me if I would have been cut off anyways if the entire group had waited. I only care about what I KNEW when I made the decision to join that line in the first place.

Once a CM comes out and makes a cut off point they should stay out there to deter the possibilities of line cutting. At this point hopefully all little kids bathroom breaks would be done.

 

[cinezealot]

I know this is obviously a very hotly contested topic but I just thought I'd share my experience.

There were 3 of us getting in line for TSM. The line was posted as being very long and since it was early in the morning I thought I'd get coffee to drink while in line. The line was in the extended queue and out the door so we could see where people were and as they were moving. At this point the two others went in line while I got coffee at that kiosk that's just across the street. (I feel like this is the point where most people would say the other two should have just waited for me before entering, but again, the line was out the door and I could see them and figured the coffee would take a minute or two). Then the line started moving very quickly -- to the point that my party went inside. I had already ordered and was waiting for the drink to be done. Finally, I ran over to the line and the CM told me I couldn't take any beverages inside (I guess my fault for not researching?) I tried to chug as much as I could, but it was obviously scorchingly hot, meanwhile the line kept moving quicker and quicker, my party becoming further and further away. I decided to cut my losses and basically throw away 3/4 of my drink and try and join my party. Now I'm "that guy" pushing past people obviously being super apologetic but really, I'm pushing past people to join my party. I don't think anyone said anything rude to me, they may have rolled their eyes or something but nbd.

I think there are a lot of situations that can happen. I think there's something to be said for someone that feels entitled while line jumping and does it all the time vs. someone that's just trying to join their party. You can usually tell who doesn't care who they piss off while their group of 8 cuts in line, but those people aren't going to change or care no matter what. I can say on my part, throughout the trip, we always entered the lines at the same time but you know, the one time I wanted coffee, stuff happened. People cut in front of me and it's kind of irritating but there's really nothing I can do. Usually people apologize and it's fine, I mean grand scheme of things it's not the end of the world. Perhaps it's bad to set that precedent but again, big picture, you're at disneyworld!

 

[Shonte Durrett]

I say, it's okay. If it's only 2 people and not a whole herd of family. You got there at a time before the other people behind you. If you skip the EE then all of you would be in that spot right then anyways. However, I can't stand it when others do that BUT i would. lol hahahaha

and..... on the "bathroom" note. I have 4 girls. IF WE are waiting in line and one needs to use the restroom, we will go while my family stays and holds our spot. I will never make them hold it. I know from experience what holding can do to your body. So.... I vote yes to peeing while family stays in line. lol

 

[Robo]

There were 3 of us getting in line for TSM. The line was posted as being very long and since it was early in the morning I thought I'd get coffee to drink while in line. The line was in the extended queue and out the door so we could see where people were and as they were moving... Then the line started moving very quickly -- to the point that my party went inside.

Once a party decides to separate, those who elect to go into the queue shouldn't expect others who did not arrive with them to be able to join them when they decide to stay with the moving line.

To participate in an attraction together, enter the line together.

 

[DisneyDude71]

Part of that one is also the CM's fault. They should not have let them join in line since they had entered the building.

 

[mickeyfanachey1999]

Join the line as a family. We had a "sudden" bathroom need arise with DS4 in September and he and I left the HM queue and DW and DS13 stayed and rode the ride. DS4 and I met them at the exit and then we all got back in line. I wasn't going to try to rejoin the queue. I got out of line and the only place it's ok to join the line is at the end.

 

[eeyoreandtink]

I know this is obviously a very hotly contested topic but I just thought I'd share my experience.

There were 3 of us getting in line for TSM. The line was posted as being very long and since it was early in the morning I thought I'd get coffee to drink while in line. The line was in the extended queue and out the door so we could see where people were and as they were moving. At this point the two others went in line while I got coffee at that kiosk that's just across the street. (I feel like this is the point where most people would say the other two should have just waited for me before entering, but again, the line was out the door and I could see them and figured the coffee would take a minute or two). Then the line started moving very quickly -- to the point that my party went inside. I had already ordered and was waiting for the drink to be done. Finally, I ran over to the line and the CM told me I couldn't take any beverages inside (I guess my fault for not researching?) I tried to chug as much as I could, but it was obviously scorchingly hot, meanwhile the line kept moving quicker and quicker, my party becoming further and further away. I decided to cut my losses and basically throw away 3/4 of my drink and try and join my party. Now I'm "that guy" pushing past people obviously being super apologetic but really, I'm pushing past people to join my party. I don't think anyone said anything rude to me, they may have rolled their eyes or something but nbd.

I think there are a lot of situations that can happen. I think there's something to be said for someone that feels entitled while line jumping and does it all the time vs. someone that's just trying to join their party. You can usually tell who doesn't care who they piss off while their group of 8 cuts in line, but those people aren't going to change or care no matter what. I can say on my part, throughout the trip, we always entered the lines at the same time but you know, the one time I wanted coffee, stuff happened. People cut in front of me and it's kind of irritating but there's really nothing I can do. Usually people apologize and it's fine, I mean grand scheme of things it's not the end of the world. Perhaps it's bad to set that precedent but again, big picture, you're at disneyworld!

This attitude exemplifies why this is such a problem. It's ok when I want to do it, because my circumstances are special. Frankly, everyone thinks they are special and that their reasons are justified. They aren't any more special than everyone else waiting in line. It's ok because I don't do it all the time. It still isn't fair to the people you skipped.

 

[MickeyWaffles]

I say, it's okay. If it's only 2 people and not a whole herd of family. You got there at a time before the other people behind you. If you skip the EE then all of you would be in that spot right then anyways. However, I can't stand it when others do that BUT i would. lol hahahaha

and..... on the "bathroom" note. I have 4 girls. IF WE are waiting in line and one needs to use the restroom, we will go while my family stays and holds our spot. I will never make them hold it. I know from experience what holding can do to your body. So.... I vote yes to peeing while family stays in line. lol

It's wrong whether it's two people or "a whole herd." Imagine if every group had two people and did this! It would be so irritating and rude to others waiting.

Agree with you on the bathroom, though. Ok and to be expected with kids. I just don't think people should be galavanting around riding rides then playing catchup.

 

[Dis703]

Personally I'd be annoyed for all of ten seconds and then get over it if I saw someone in front of me doing this.

This is me as well. It's just not that big of a deal. Now if I was in line for a ride and suddenly 10-15 people came walking through to meet up I'd probably be annoyed enough to say something, but a parent and child who took a bathroom break is not a big deal to me. And I see it fairly often at Disney.

 

[larryz]

(I feel like this is the point where most people would say the other two should have just waited for me before entering...)

Yep.

(I guess my fault for not researching?)

Right again.

I tried to chug as much as I could, but it was obviously scorchingly hot...

Ouch! Tongue burns suck!

I think there's something to be said for someone that feels entitled while line jumping and does it all the time vs. someone that's just trying to join their party.

Trying to enter the line and join a party that's ahead of you is line jumping, by definition. Most people will give a pass if you joined the line with your group and then had to leave for a biobreak or something similar...

Perhaps it's bad to set that precedent but again, big picture, you're at disneyworld!

Yes, but being at WDW is no excuse to stop adhering to the basic laws of humanity, though...

 

[goofy4tink]

I figure you have two choices....you can get in line and enter the building, hoping that the rest of the group makes it in. Or, you can stand at the end of the line, and let others pass by you, until the rest get there.
It's easy to say 'Oh, it's just two people' or 'What's an extra 10 seconds'...but. What happens when this is repeated by 20 other families? Or people figure that it was okay to do at Nemo, so why not at TSM?
I have stood in a line, actually for Nemo, and had other bypass me...evidently trying to catch up with their group. Yes, I arrived latish, so towards the end of the line. BUT....I didn't make it into that showing! Missed by about 10 people! So, I had to decide whether or not to just stand and wait, or go do something else and return later on. I left and did something else, and caught the show later in my trip.

 

[sharadoc]

For a show? No problem at all. Have them join up. That's just my take.

Now, for a ride, its a bit different for me. But a show, whatever.

Agree. Their place in line is less relevant because everyone goes in at once.

 

[ChloesDaddy]

Agree. Their place in line is less relevant because everyone goes in at once.

Then it shouldn't be a problem for them to wait before getting in line.

 

[Disneyholic]

A few years back we were in line at EPCOT during Food & Wine for a symposium. A cast member went along the line and was clicking a clicker to count the people in line. When he got to us he said that we and the family behind us would be the last ones in and then started telling everyone who came to the end of the line that it was closed. About 5 minutes before another CM came along with a clicker and told people about 40 in front of us that they were the end of the line and proceeded to tell the rest of us that we would not be getting in, sorry. It seems that quite a few people in line had family members who decided to do other things while 1 or 2 people waited in line. They then jumped in line and cut us out of something that we had been waiting and hour and a half in line for in the sun and heat. DH & I didn't have that option since it was just the 2 of us and I wouldn't have thought of doing that to anyone in the first place. I was ticked off, but stayed in line and ended up being 2 of the first people in line for the next symposium.

 

[Robo]

For a show? No problem at all. Have them join up...

Agree. Their place in line is less relevant because everyone goes in at once.

I'm lost as to, if it "less relevant" for guests to line-jump because everyone goes in at once,
why does the first half of the party even need to wait in line to hold a spot.

Why not have the first half of the party mill around outside until the rest of the party has arrived,
then when the doors open, "everyone goes in at once?"

Why should the "line-jumper" party have any kind of preferential entry over
others who put in the time and effort to arrive early and wait their turn?

 

[cinezealot]

Yep.
Right again.
Ouch! Tongue burns suck!

Trying to enter the line and join a party that's ahead of you is line jumping, by definition. Most people will give a pass if you joined the line with your group and then had to leave for a biobreak or something similar...

Yes, but being at WDW is no excuse to stop adhering to the basic laws of humanity, though...

Sheesh alright, I've been internet shamed into submission. You've won.

 

[smidgy]

This thread is a perfect example of our society today. I have had many times a mom or dad with their kid(s) were joining up with their family and had absolutely no problem with it. We are talking a minute longer wait, big deal!!

not for a show, when those few people who were NOT in line join up with their family and makes YOU miss the cutoff point for the next show. or causes you to take seats way in the back or on the edge.

 

[smidgy]

Agree. Their place in line is less relevant because everyone goes in at once.

it IS aproblem with a show. even more so than a ride.. with a ride, you might have to wait 5 or 10 minutes... for a show, if you miss the cut-off point, you have to wait another 45 minutes or so till the next show!

 

[sharadoc]

True

it IS aproblem with a show. even more so than a ride.. with a ride, you might have to wait 5 or 10 minutes... for a show, if you miss the cur-off point, you have to wait another 45 minutes or so till the next show!

True. I guess I was thinking this show is unlikely to be full.