Hillary Supporters unite part 2; no bashing please

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Well, I failed the Obama test miserably. President Obama will be ashamed of having me as a U.S. citizen. I guess that I should apply for citizenship to another country. Any hot, single European males out there between the ages of 30-35 looking for an American wife? :rolleyes1

http://obamatest.com/

LOL - I got these results:

You scored 38
You show promise, but you must study the writings of Barack, and you must tithe.

I am a reluctant Obama supporter - for many reasons I've stated throughout this thread and on others.

I probably will vote for him - but I am not expecting much. I am sitting on the side lines - pretending I'm from Missouri - waiting for him to "SHOW ME" he can do everything he promised......

I'd rather be watching him try, than having McCain "do" things I am against.....

Not begrudging any of you your McCain vote - just my two cents in it all......
 
I am a reluctant Obama supporter - for many reasons I've stated throughout this thread and on others.

I probably will vote for him - but I am not expecting much. I am sitting on the side lines - pretending I'm from Missouri - waiting for him to "SHOW ME" he can do everything he promised......

I'd rather be watching him try, than having McCain "do" things I am against.....

Not begrudging any of you your McCain vote - just my two cents in it all......

...and it is your choice. All of us (on this thread) have to hold our noses and vote for someone. The question is who is the greater evil. Right now, for me it is Obama, which is not to say that I don't find McCain evil too.
 
I try not to come in this thread to criticize anyone, especially since I have nothing against Hillary. However, I have one thing to say in reply to your post.

REALLY?? Get real.

:confused3 I'm not the one who wrote the article.
 

I first off have to say that I am a Conservative Republican, and I would have never voted for Hillary for Pres. However, I think its totally unreal that Obama does not seem like he is even considering seriously picking her as his VP.

I mean she was so close to him in the primaries. I really don't understand how he could pass her over. I am not trying to start anything at all, just giving my two cents about that situation.
 
Well, I failed the Obama test miserably. President Obama will be ashamed of having me as a U.S. citizen. I guess that I should apply for citizenship to another country. Any hot, single European males out there between the ages of 30-35 looking for an American wife? :rolleyes1

http://obamatest.com/

I've already got mine, too bad I'm stuck in the US and he's refusing to move back to France! Oh and he wants me to vote for Obama, damn French, should have gone with the German. :rotfl2: :lmao: :rotfl:
 
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I've already got mine, too bad I'm stuck in the US and he's refusing to move back to France! Oh and he wants me to vote for Obama, damn French, should have gone with the German. :rotfl2: :lmao: :rotfl:
:lmao:

Don't be threatening to leave the country now. Some on the other side will take that literally and never let it go. ;)
 
So, if President Obama forms his CNSF - like he said he'd do - are you joining me to form the resistance? I think DISUNC should lead it. No one would want to mess with a green haired dude. :teeth:


Vive La Restiance!
frenchman.gif
(but who would take a Lime haired guy WITH a Beret seriously???)
:rotfl:

Been busy at work and in spare time reading 'Obama Nation'!:eek:

CNSF???????? WTH?:scared1: :scared1: :scared1: :scared1:

He mentioned this on 7/2 (while I was on vacation..that shdyfbgjgjgiguhn), this is the first I am hearing about it. SCARY VERY SCARY STUFF!:scared1:

I have to read MUCH more about this.:3dglasses
 
I first off have to say that I am a Conservative Republican, and I would have never voted for Hillary for Pres. However, I think its totally unreal that Obama does not seem like he is even considering seriously picking her as his VP.

I mean she was so close to him in the primaries. I really don't understand how he could pass her over. I am not trying to start anything at all, just giving my two cents about that situation.

Since Hillary did win the popular votes in the primaries, yes, you’d think she’d be in the VP slot since the DNC gave the nomination to Obama. However, if you paid any attention to how Obama treated Hillary in the primaries, it's really not surprising at all. At least to me it's not. He’s never shown her an ounce of respect. Why start now?
 
I think that Texas proved that caucuses weren't fair. By logic - Hillary should have won the caucus since she won our Primary. But she didn't.

PUMA got more than enough signatures to create a platform of issues to bring to the DNC’s platform committee yesterday. Basically, PUMA was ignored. One of the issues brought forth was caucuses and it's now to be shoved off to the convention:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/election2008/story/47152.html
 
In that case, I apologize, and share this with you:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

and excuse me while I sent a nastygram to that author.

That article is nothing more than a lie.

Nasty gram who you'd like. I guess I have been following the entire birth certificate issue a little more closely. I read the article as a follow up to the idea that Obama was actually NOT born in the USA (the speculation is that it may be Canada) and that even though he has a naturally born parent which SHOULD convey citizenship - because she was so young at the time - he would not fall under that clause either.

Now - we can debate the whole where was he born thing, for sure. I tend to think that there will be nothing to it, but I do have to wonder why he doesn't just produce his ACTUAL birth certificate and get it over with? The one he has on his website has no registrar signature. I have never seen one without. I understand blacking out certain information - but there is no indication that a registrar's sig was ever there. And if there was at some point - I do not understand the need of photshopping that out when all they did was black out the cert#?

It just seems off/not quite right.

You are an OS that seems very involved in the campaign - any word on when Obama is gonna go back and make good on his promises to his family's village in Africa?
 
You are an OS that seems very involved in the campaign - any word on when Obama is gonna go back and make good on his promises to his family's village in Africa?

Why would he do that? They don't vote. ;)

The whole COLB thing may just be a crock (probably is in fact) but after the "wonderful" reporting by the mainstream media on the Edwards affair, I am looking for the "October surprise" to come from a small internet outfit.
 
Why would he do that? They don't vote. ;)

The whole COLB thing may just be a crock (probably is in fact) but after the "wonderful" reporting by the mainstream media on the Edwards affair, I am looking for the "October surprise" to come from a small internet outfit.

Exactly - some of the tabloid reporting isn't the trash it used to be lately. (Maybe they had it right in Men in Black!!:lmao: )

Personally - I refuse to let the village story die. If Obama was not able to fulfill his promise of "Hope and Change" on such a small scale - how the heck is he gonna do it in such a complex nation as ours?
 
Vive La Restiance!
frenchman.gif
(but who would take a Lime haired guy WITH a Beret seriously???)
:rotfl:

CNSF???????? WTH?:scared1: :scared1: :scared1: :scared1:

He mentioned this on 7/2 (while I was on vacation..that shdyfbgjgjgiguhn), this is the first I am hearing about it. SCARY VERY SCARY STUFF!:scared1:

I have to read MUCH more about this.:3dglasses

I can't believe that you didn't know about this until now. :confused: Of course, they tried to scrub it from the media pretty darn fast after they realized the impact of what he said. Could you imagine him forming it? I just keep thinking back to the movie 'Swing Kids'.


:snooty: 23 here!

I would make a better 'Obamabot' than you!

You know, I was pretty shocked that JARNJ3 scored so high - but since she's voting for the man she gets a free pass.

YOU on the otherhand! Shame, shame for scoring so high. You're supposed to be leading our resistance but you're really a double agent aren't you??? :mad:

says the person who refuses to admit that she scored a 25 on the test...
 
Nasty gram who you'd like. I guess I have been following the entire birth certificate issue a little more closely. I read the article as a follow up to the idea that Obama was actually NOT born in the USA (the speculation is that it may be Canada) and that even though he has a naturally born parent which SHOULD convey citizenship - because she was so young at the time - he would not fall under that clause either.

Now - we can debate the whole where was he born thing, for sure. I tend to think that there will be nothing to it, but I do have to wonder why he doesn't just produce his ACTUAL birth certificate and get it over with? The one he has on his website has no registrar signature. I have never seen one without. I understand blacking out certain information - but there is no indication that a registrar's sig was ever there. And if there was at some point - I do not understand the need of photshopping that out when all they did was black out the cert#?

It just seems off/not quite right.

I'm not going to get into the same argument I get into with some of my relatives :) I'll just leave it at this: I personally called the Vital Records office in Honolulu, and their words were that the embossed seal and registrar signature are on the back of the certificate. What you have is the front of the certificate. Then I emailed my former college roommate, who was born and raised in Hawaii, and asked him what he thought. He pulled out his birth certificate and it was identical to BO's, and he corroborated that the seal and signature are on the back. After that, I spoke to one of my colleagues about why they don't just release the back. His reply, "the people that don't believe it now, will refuse to believe it no matter what we release." So long story short, if the campaign releases the back, the same people that refuse to believe it now will simply say that this could have come from any other Hawaii Birth Certificate.

You are an OS that seems very involved in the campaign - any word on when Obama is gonna go back and make good on his promises to his family's village in Africa?

I'm no longer on the payroll. I am now working as a consultant for the campaign, specifically for Latino Outreach and Obama Pride, and to a lesser extent Expats for Obama. So in short, unless we're talking about a Latin American Pride March for Obama in Kenya, I wouldn't have a clue when he plans to return to Africa.
 
I'm not going to get into the same argument I get into with some of my relatives :) I'll just leave it at this: I personally called the Vital Records office in Honolulu, and their words were that the embossed seal and registrar signature are on the back of the certificate. What you have is the front of the certificate. Then I emailed my former college roommate, who was born and raised in Hawaii, and asked him what he thought. He pulled out his birth certificate and it was identical to BO's, and he corroborated that the seal and signature are on the back. After that, I spoke to one of my colleagues about why they don't just release the back. His reply, "the people that don't believe it now, will refuse to believe it no matter what we release." So long story short, if the campaign releases the back, the same people that refuse to believe it now will simply say that this could have come from any other Hawaii Birth Certificate.
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Bravo PR!!!!
Of course those who choose to only see the negative will not believe you....
but well researched......:thumbsup2
 
I'm not going to get into the same argument I get into with some of my relatives :) I'll just leave it at this: I personally called the Vital Records office in Honolulu, and their words were that the embossed seal and registrar signature are on the back of the certificate. What you have is the front of the certificate. Then I emailed my former college roommate, who was born and raised in Hawaii, and asked him what he thought. He pulled out his birth certificate and it was identical to BO's, and he corroborated that the seal and signature are on the back. After that, I spoke to one of my colleagues about why they don't just release the back. His reply, "the people that don't believe it now, will refuse to believe it no matter what we release." So long story short, if the campaign releases the back, the same people that refuse to believe it now will simply say that this could have come from any other Hawaii Birth Certificate.
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Bravo PR!!!!
Of course those who choose to only see the negative will not believe you....
but well researched......:thumbsup2
 
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