Hillary Supporters unite part 2; no bashing please

[chobie]

I have never ever said anywhere that I will vote for McCain or that I - in anyway, shape or form - support him or his candidacy. I do refuse to let anyone use him as some kind of boogie man that will scare me into seeing things the way THEY want me to see them and therefore act accordingly.

I need to believe in what I am voting/working/fighting for – I do not want to settle. I settled in 2004 and not only did it not accomplish anything – it left me feeling hopeless in ways I did not like. I do not believe in Obama. Sorry – I just don’t. I especially have no faith left for the Democratic Party. To continue my support would not only feel like I was settling – but that I was compromising myself in many ways.

Anything that I have needed to say to or about any of my fellow DIS libs has been said right here on this forum - if I cannot find a way to state how I feel or communicate my position within the terms of this board – I just do not say it at all. I have never felt the need to go running ANYWHERE to lambaste someone, insult their intelligence or throw nasty personal insults out about them behind their back.
Whatever jollies that may come from painting Hillary supporters as racist, traitors, poorly educated/ignorant or plain douche bags is eventually going to fade. Those stereotypes are real easy to throw around but it prevents the necessary action of taking a look at what EXACTLY it is that has SO many turned off. And it is especially divisive when these attacks are coming from people that are supposed to be on your “side”.

I guess that although I considered myself to be a cynical realist - I must really be a naive idealist at heart. I will follow my own conscience no matter who thinks I am an idiot.

Which people are going where to talk about you behind your back?

 

[MyManGoofy!]

Which people are going where to talk about you behind your back?

Oh seriously. The confused act might play well to some but I think you know exactly who and where.

 

[chobie]

Oh seriously. The confused act might play well to some but I think you know exactly who and where.

Paranoid much?

 

[MyManGoofy!]

Paranoid much?

Nope - informed.

 

[chobie]

Nope - informed.

 

[akhenaten]

Nope - informed.

Maybe your informant can't be trusted...

 

[KikiFan]

Anything that I have needed to say to or about any of my fellow DIS libs has been said right here on this forum - if I cannot find a way to state how I feel or communicate my position within the terms of this board – I just do not say it at all. I have never felt the need to go running ANYWHERE to lambaste someone, insult their intelligence or throw nasty personal insults out about them behind their back.

Whatever jollies that may come from painting Hillary supporters as racist, traitors, poorly educated/ignorant or plain douche bags is eventually going to fade. Those stereotypes are real easy to throw around but it prevents the necessary action of taking a look at what EXACTLY it is that has SO many turned off. And it is especially divisive when these attacks are coming from people that are supposed to be on your “side”.

You forgot ................. we're also whiners!

 

["Got Disney"]

OS please go and be sarcastic in your own thread....we have a decision to make yours is already made. We are going to be throwing things around here and bouncing them off of each other and you may not want to interrupt us because as far as informants go OS are not the informants we will be looking at.

we know that you mean well when it comes to promoting Obama but Your opinions of Obama will not help you to convince us to change our minds. We need to do that on our own. We are not stupid and know who McCain is and what a vote for him would mean. In addition yes it is a free board and you can post where you want...however if you really want us to come over to the Obama side than you need to not push.

We are adults not 5 year olds and we know how to vote and choose. Obama will be our DEM candidate....we are aware of that. We need to find our way over to him in our own time and our own way. Pushing us will only make us more likely to not go his way. Just sit tight and wait.

Thanks

 

[MyManGoofy!]

Maybe your informant can't be trusted...

Nothing beats my own eyes.





Sorry Got Disney - I posted that knowing they would see and come over. I can't exactly tell them to get lost now.

 

["Got Disney"]

Nothing beats my own eyes.





Sorry Got Disney - I posted that knowing they would see and come over. I can't exactly tell them to get lost now.

okay you have at it I'll sit back and watch why you play

 

[akhenaten]

Nothing beats my own eyes.





Sorry Got Disney - I posted that knowing they would see and come over. I can't exactly tell them to get lost now.

I was only making a joke. .. if you have noticed these boards have been veeerryyy slow lately....

BTW I am not a "they" , I am an individual..just killing time between

and my poor attempt at humor was neither an endorsement or a critisim of any political candidate....

 

[Duckfan-in-Chicago]

I am with you on this thought process. It does seem that EVRYTHING just happens to work out in his favor.

It is odd how he won the Senate seat! ....and very shortly after "they" are talking Presidential run!

Then again...I LOVE Conspiracy theories!!!!

He's had an easy run in every election he's had so far. Other than the time he lost in the primary to Bobby Rush for the U.S. House.

 

[deelam]

I just want to say if Obama gets the nomination, I will not vote for him. I do not care for him. I will vote for McCain or Ron Paul.

I truly beleive that Hillary is the best person for the job. I guess this all shows that women are truly not equal in the eyes of many. A powerfull woman like Clinton brings out a lot of hate in people. It really is a shame.

 

[lilyv]

I just want to say if Obama gets the nomination, I will not vote for him. I do not care for him. I will vote for McCain or Ron Paul.

I truly beleive that Hillary is the best person for the job. I guess this all shows that women are truly not equal in the eyes of many. A powerfull woman like Clinton brings out a lot of hate in people. It really is a shame.

I am confused. (I actually dislike the following smilie, but it's appropriate here. First time I've ever used it.)
Hillary brings out hate and causes folks to vote republican?
I'd hope we all have a view of a brighter tomorrow than that whatever happens in the primaries.

 

[MyManGoofy!]

I am confused. (I actually dislike the following smilie, but it's appropriate here. First time I've ever used it.)
Hillary brings out hate and causes folks to vote republican?
I'd hope we all have a view of a brighter tomorrow than that whatever happens in the primaries.

I think that sometimes there are those that forget that Hillary has attracted many centrists/moderates. So for them going to McCain is actually closer than going to Obama.

 

[deelam]

I am confused. (I actually dislike the following smilie, but it's appropriate here. First time I've ever used it.)
Hillary brings out hate and causes folks to vote republican?
I'd hope we all have a view of a brighter tomorrow than that whatever happens in the primaries.

I don't hate him. I actual like him, but not as my president in a time of war. I want experience.

 

[Duckfan-in-Chicago]

Hillary brings out hate and causes folks to vote republican?

That is, of course, one interpretation. I prefer to think that the person who is running on the promise of no red states/blue states but bringing the whole country together can't bring his own party together.

Sure there are still a few stragglers voting for Paul in the Republican primaries, but Clinton is going to wipe the floor with Obama in two of the next three states even though everyone says this is over.

 

[punkin]

I think that sometimes there are those that forget that Hillary has attracted many centrists/moderates. So for them going to McCain is actually closer than going to Obama.

I am generally a centrist on many things. However I am generally a social liberal so have felt at home in the Dem party. I thought the Repubs went off the deep end with Reagan. At this point, I may give old Ron another look-see for November. At least he wants to withdraw from Iraq. I really cannot see myself voting for Obama at this point.

 

["Got Disney"]

I am confused. (I actually dislike the following smilie, but it's appropriate here. First time I've ever used it.)
Hillary brings out hate and causes folks to vote republican?
I'd hope we all have a view of a brighter tomorrow than that whatever happens in the primaries.

Hi lily,
Both Candidates bring out the worse in some. If Hillary were to have gotten the Nomination we would be reading the same on the Obama thread. There is a chance that at least 50% will not vote Obama and if Hillary there would be the same chance of that 50% not voting for her.

We really wont have any idea how things will turn around come November and the votes start coming in. I do believe however that the best chance for a good outcome would be to have Hillary on the ticket. But whether she takes it or is even offered it is another story.

And than there may be some issues with that with some voters also

 

[lilyv]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";25064896]Hi lily,
Both Candidates bring out the worse in some. If Hillary were to have gotten the Nomination we would be reading the same on the Obama thread. There is a chance that at least 50% will not vote Obama and if Hillary there would be the same chance of that 50% not voting for her.

We really wont have any idea how things will turn around come November and the votes start coming in. I do believe however that the best chance for a good outcome would be to have Hillary on the ticket. But whether she takes it or is even offered it is another story.

And than there may be some issues with that with some voters also [/QUOTE]
I am more than happy to have Hillary on the ticket. My issues are so beyond democratic infighting. I really want a leader in the White House. McCain doesn't remotely fit the bill for me. Most of his party's leadership can't stand him. He won't be able to get anything done IMO. If his "friends" don't respect him, there's not much hope.

Thanks for the answer-always appreciate your perspective.