Hillary Supporters unite part 2; no bashing please

[punkin]

McCain doesn't remotely fit the bill for me. Most of his party's leadership can't stand him. He won't be able to get anything done IMO.

Hmm, a repub who can't get anything done? Sounds like exactly what I want. A silver lining to my dilemma.

 

[KikiFan]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";25064896]Hi lily,
Both Candidates bring out the worse in some. If Hillary were to have gotten the Nomination we would be reading the same on the Obama thread. There is a chance that at least 50% will not vote Obama and if Hillary there would be the same chance of that 50% not voting for her.

We really wont have any idea how things will turn around come November and the votes start coming in. I do believe however that the best chance for a good outcome would be to have Hillary on the ticket. But whether she takes it or is even offered it is another story.

And than there may be some issues with that with some voters also [/QUOTE]

I really don't understand the logic of Hillary not being on the ticket. This isn't some sort of blow out where Obama won by a landslide and can carry the whole thing by the himself.

If he gets the nom it will be only by a small percentage. To somehow think that almost half the Dem voters are irrelevant is just total arrogance in my book. And I'd say this if the situation was reversed. If Hillary were the one leading by mere percentage points, I would expect her to offer the VP to Obama.

The race is too close and to passionate for them both not to be on the ticket for the general. Because what it really comes down too is that neither one of them has been strong enough to achieve a true majority, but together they'd be unstoppable.

 

[lilyv]

Hmm, a repub who can't get anything done? Sounds like exactly what I want. A silver lining to my dilemma.

I sincerely understand your point. We may not agree, but I understand.
Please know, though that there is a huge problem with what to do about Iraq. Dithering and copying Bush's "plan" will only lead to more casualties. I don't want to have 4 more years of mission accomplished, and thousands more dead.

 

[Duckfan-in-Chicago]

I really don't understand the logic of Hillary not being on the ticket. This isn't some sort of blow out where Obama won by a landslide and can carry the whole thing by the himself.

If he gets the nom it will be only by a small percentage. To somehow think that almost half the Dem voters are irrelevant is just total arrogance in my book. And I'd say this if the situation was reversed. If Hillary were the one leading by mere percentage points, I would expect her to offer the VP to Obama.

The race is too close and to passionate for them both not to be on the ticket for the general. Because what it really comes down too is that neither one of them has been strong enough to achieve a true majority, but together they'd be unstoppable.

Rumors going around is one of the people who wants to keep HC off the #2 spot is Obama's wife.

 

[lilyv]

I really don't understand the logic of Hillary not being on the ticket. This isn't some sort of blow out where Obama won by a landslide and can carry the whole thing by the himself.

If he gets the nom it will be only by a small percentage. To somehow think that almost half the Dem voters are irrelevant is just total arrogance in my book. And I'd say this if the situation was reversed. If Hillary were the one leading by mere percentage points, I would expect her to offer the VP to Obama.

The race is too close and to passionate for them both not to be on the ticket for the general. Because what it really comes down too is that neither one of them has been strong enough to achieve a true majority, but together they'd be unstoppable.

As I've said before, I have no problem with Hillary on the ticket. You put out a good case of why she should be seriously considered.

 

[lilyv]

Rumors going around is one of the people who wants to keep HC off the #2 spot is Obama's wife.

Sigh. There have been plenty of rumors about the Clintons, rumors about the Obama's. At this critical point, I'd hope we were sticking to facts.

 

["Got Disney"]

I am so angry at one of the OS calling us racist because we are for Hillary. and also calling Hillary racist because she said that Obama will have a hard time getting the White working class blue collar voters....well they like FACTS but guess not that one.

So what about Obama getting 98% of the black votes...guess the balck OS dont like White Woman.

I posted over there and gave that poster a piece of my mind.....ignorance about racisum is a terrible thing.

 

[Duckfan-in-Chicago]

Sigh. There have been plenty of rumors about the Clintons, rumors about the Obama's. At this critical point, I'd hope we were sticking to facts.

This was posted in a newspaper article with sources in the Obama camp. Obvously nobody is talking yet, but this isn't just a blog or a myspace account.

 

["Got Disney"]

Rumors going around is one of the people who wants to keep HC off the #2 spot is Obama's wife.

The media has mentioned that many times that Michelle appsolutely does not like Hillery and would that she herself would most likely not vote for Hillery if she got the nomination and she said that on a few interviews admitting that.

That is no secrete that she would hate for her to be the VP!

 

[KikiFan]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";25065321]The media has mentioned that many times that Michelle appsolutely does not like Hillery and would that she herself would most likely not vote for Hillery if she got the nomination and she said that on a few interviews admitting that.

That is no secrete that she would hate for her to be the VP![/QUOTE]

She actually said that? Do you remember what interview? I'd really like to see that confirmed.
(or disproved as the case may be.)

 

["Got Disney"]

She actually said that? Do you remember what interview? I'd really like to see that confirmed.
(or disproved as the case may be.)

You tube has her interviews...the first time she commented on it i think was like the first interview where she was asked if Hillary were to get the nomination would she vote for her...she sat there and thought and said something like,...well to be truthful I would have to think about that.

I remember that because it really turned me off to her and it was like the first interview I have ever seen of her.

 

[DISUNC]

She actually said that? Do you remember what interview? I'd really like to see that confirmed.
(or disproved as the case may be.)

Its been published as a "rumor' by Robert Novack. To my knowledge Michelle has not publically stated this.

http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272620472.shtml

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Close-in supporters of Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign are convinced he never will offer the vice presidential nomination to Sen. Hillary Clinton for one overriding reason: Michelle Obama. The Democratic front-runner's wife did not comment on other rival candidates for the party's nomination, but she has been sniping at Clinton since last summer. According to Obama sources, those public utterances do not reveal the extent of her hostility.

 

[akhenaten]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";25065262]I am so angry at one of the OS calling us racist because we are for Hillary. and also calling Hillary racist because she said that Obama will have a hard time getting the White working class blue collar voters....well they like FACTS but guess not that one.

So what about Obama getting 98% of the black votes...guess the balck OS dont like White Woman.

I posted over there and gave that poster a piece of my mind.....ignorance about racisum is a terrible thing.[/QUOTE]

That is not what she said!!!

You are missreading and missinterpriting!!!

Please ...I know you guys are upset but you are looking for things to rip to pieces....

 

[akhenaten]

She actually said that? Do you remember what interview? I'd really like to see that confirmed.
(or disproved as the case may be.)

she did say she would have to think about it...

but put in context it was an interview prior to super tuesday.....why would she want to say she would vote for anyone besides her Husband?

 

["Got Disney"]

That is not what she said!!!

You are missreading and missinterpriting!!!

Please ...I know you guys are upset but you are looking for things to rip to pieces....

yes it is......and I am not missreading it....when you read the other posts up to it and after it it is clear. I am not saying that that is how all the Os feel.....that is why only the 2 remarks were quoted. it it was mostly to one poster only...

 

[DISUNC]

That is not what she said!!!

You are missreading and missinterpriting!!!

Please ...I know you guys are upset but you are looking for things to rip to pieces....

YES She did call us Racists!!!!

byw...I am not upset, nor am I missreading or missinterpeting anything!

 

[DISUNC]

Here is some funny news....

I am glad to hear that Obama dont pander to his audience!




Obama Defends His Patriotism, Quarrels With McCain

Wearing a flag lapel pin, Sen. Barack Obama emphasized his patriotism and support for a strong and humane military Monday, while Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton implored West Virginians to sustain her hopes of somehow denying him the Democratic presidential nomination.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=4833773

 

[wvrevy]

Here is some funny news....

I am glad to hear that Obama dont pander to his audience!




Obama Defends His Patriotism, Quarrels With McCain

Wearing a flag lapel pin, Sen. Barack Obama emphasized his patriotism and support for a strong and humane military Monday, while Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton implored West Virginians to sustain her hopes of somehow denying him the Democratic presidential nomination.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=4833773

Umm...he wears a pin sometimes, and has done so at many other events. He's simply said that he's not wearing it all the time as a statement about patriotism, because he doesn't think it actually says anything about someone's patriotism whether they wear the pin or not.

So? Why not focus on what he had to say instead of his choice of accessories?

 

[DISUNC]

Umm...he wears a pin sometimes, and has done so at many other events. He's simply said that he's not wearing it all the time as a statement about patriotism, because he doesn't think it actually says anything about someone's patriotism whether they wear the pin or not.

So? Why not focus on what he had to say instead of his choice of accessories?

Says YOU!

Obama say's "You know, the truth is that right after 9/11, I had a pin," Obama said. "Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq War, that became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security, I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest. "

So what is it?

Honestly I couldnt care less...BUT it shows his utter contempt for his audience, not to mention he is a BIG FAT HYPOCRITE!

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3690000

As I stated a Billion times on these threads...I DONT CARE WHAT OBAMA HAS TOO SAY ANYMORE! He as shown his elitist, condeceding attitude and what a flippen lier he is, way too many times for me to even remotely consider him as a serious contenter...EVER!

He is a CON artist, a fake, a phoney, a flim flam man, New Millenium snake oil salesman! He roles into town and tells people whatever they want to hear. Tells um "We got trouble right here in River City". And how his supporters dont see this is beyond my comphrehension.

I still am waiting from alllllllllll the people that Obama has helped from his past...They are STILL so noticeably absent from his campaign!

 

[MermaidsMom]

Umm...he wears a pin sometimes, and has done so at many other events. He's simply said that he's not wearing it all the time as a statement about patriotism, because he doesn't think it actually says anything about someone's patriotism whether they wear the pin or not.

So? Why not focus on what he had to say instead of his choice of accessories?

It's a symbol of respect for the office he is running for.