Hillary Supporters unite....no bashing please! only smiles

[DISUNC]

I have decided that if Obama gets the nomination, I'll be sitting out the election or voting for McCain for two reasons:
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I feel like that now, but I wont make that decision till november!

"fiddle dee dee I willl think about that tommorrow"!

 

[punkin]

As of today Obama has 161 SD, and Clinton has 234 SD!
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#D

Most of them are still undecided! However THEY can change at the last minute in the convention!

We really have to wait and see what Texas, Ohio & Pennsylvania is gonna bring! It STILL is a very close race with Obama having only 69 delegates more.

Well, that's what I said earlier. I Hillary can pull out Ohio and PA, as well as make a good showing in Texas, I think she is still in good shape. It is still anyone's race.

 

["Got Disney"]

Morning everyone,
I will most likely not vote for McCain unless he WOW's ME and I cant see that happening although he does tend to sway to the moderate side a little bit. I will most likely vote for Obama because his issues are the same as Hillary for the most part and at least he will pull the troops out.

As for the other 50 million promises well that will not be easy. Whether Hillary or Obama get in there the job wont be easy and will take more than 4 years. We can only hope that he can do what he promises and he if he makes me eat crow well than so be it. If the USA becomes better and we see some real changes than I don't care who it is as long as they can do as promised.

Yes, I also believe that Hillary is the smartest of the 2 and that she understands how we need to get out of this mess because she has been there don't that. I look at it this way...


If my Truck breaks down am I going to want a new mechanic to fix it with not much automotive experience or am I going to want someone that has years of experience that has worked on my truck before and fix it for me...

And to think that having someone that says elect me and I will fix it...because I have hope and change well.....and her we are talking about the POTUS.

I say at this point to Hillary...show your back bone that we all love and forget this nice crap. Keep the mailers clean and the adds but defend yourself. She would have won IMO if she had ran a better campaign.

It really hurt her also with Obama getting almost 90% of the Black vote ...that's alot. But to be honest if I were Black I would have voted for him also. If anything maybe having a Black Pres. will cut back on some of all the racial tension. Or make people like Al Sharpton worse

There is still alot of racial tension and crazies out there so if he does get elected he will really need to watch his back because just think about how many crazies would love nothing more than to go down in History as the man that shot the first black Pres.

 

[Marie17]

How would the media play it if Hillary wore a flag pin for the debate tomorrow night?

 

[wvjules]

How would the media play it if Hillary wore a flag pin for the debate tomorrow night?

As her angatonizing Sen. Obama, of course.

 

[DawnCt1]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";23428236]Morning everyone,
I will most likely not vote for McCain unless he WOW's ME and I cant see that happening although he does tend to sway to the moderate side a little bit. I will most likely vote for Obama because his issues are the same as Hillary for the most part and at least he will pull the troops out.

A.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't take that to the bank. No democrat will want to be saddled with defeat in Iraq and if it looks like the situation would deteriorate in Iraq upon the departure of American troops, he will find a reason to keep them there. If elected, he will also want to run in 2012.

 

[punkin]

I wouldn't take that to the bank. No democrat will want to be saddled with defeat in Iraq and if it looks like the situation would deteriorate in Iraq upon the departure of American troops, he will find a reason to keep them there. If elected, he will also want to run in 2012.

Any democrat who does not pull the troops out won't have a prayer of re-election.

 

["Got Disney"]

As her angatonizing Sen. Obama, of course.

It will of course be made as you said....she is doing it as a tactic for votes or that she is insulting Obama or his wife that said she has not been proud of here country till this year since he DH is running.

I wouldn't take that to the bank. No democrat will want to be saddled with defeat in Iraq and if it looks like the situation would deteriorate in Iraq upon the departure of American troops, he will find a reason to keep them there. If elected, he will also want to run in 2012.

Maybe but they have both stated that they will come out. If Obama goes in he will pull out no matter what...he has based his whole campain on it that he never supported the war at all. and that will be his main fight against McCain.

 

["Got Disney"]

hmmmm can anyone find out what the polls are in PA..I see them in OH, RI, and Texas but not there...would like to see.

Have not watched the news yet today to see if the media is slamming her still of =r not. It has gotten to the point where I cant watch it anymore because it is so unbalanced.

Every week I have been donating to Hillary's donation fund...not alot just about $25.00-50.00 and seems like many are also because we keep meeting her goal. So we are not the only ones that feel she has a chance.

She needs the money for her adds to run in theses States. Obama mania has been keeping his accounts with lots of money. So figured would donate to Hillary's every week

She set a goal a few days ago and it was met over and above in like 24 hrs so there is still "HOPE" out there for her at least in the eyes of us Hillary supporters.

 

[DISUNC]

How would the media play it if Hillary wore a flag pin for the debate tomorrow night?

 

[DISUNC]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";23433444]hmmmm can anyone find out what the polls are in PA..I see them in OH, RI, and Texas but not there...would like to see.[/QUOTE]

We dont vote until April 22! No polling here ...yet!

 

["Got Disney"]

This guy just plan scares me...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/25/nader/index.html

 

["Got Disney"]

This guy just plan scares me...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/25/nader/index.html

 

["Got Disney"]

We dont vote until April 22! No polling here ...yet!

Was just wondering if she is favored there still at this time or has that changed do you know if there is a pool showing that??????

 

[DISUNC]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";23434069]Was just wondering if she is favored there still at this time or has that changed do you know if there is a pool showing that??????[/QUOTE]

Ya made me google!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/17/pennsylvania-primary-lat_n_87069.html

Hillary Clinton: 44
Barack Obama: 32

 

["Got Disney"]

Ya made me google!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/17/pennsylvania-primary-lat_n_87069.html

Hillary Clinton: 44
Barack Obama: 32

Thanks for googaling

here is something interestisng...funny yet not....another Hillary supporter just fed up


http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008...ed-pa-man-stabs-brother-in-law-over-election/

See what this election is doing to people....funny he was a REP

Found this on there front page...

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008...i-garb-circulated-by-clinton-campaign-source/

 

[JARNJ3]

This may be too late........ but I believe that they have a valid point and should have been raising it all along!

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

Clinton campaign takes aim at press over coverage
Posted: 06:55 PM ET

WASHINGTON (CNN) – A spokesman for Hillary Clinton lashed out at the media Monday for what he described as a double standard in the way the press covers the two Democratic White House hopefuls.

On a conference call with reporters Monday afternoon, Clinton Communications Director Howard Wolfson maintained Barack Obama is running a negative campaign, and said the press largely praises him for doing so.

“I think it is true that every time the Obama campaign in this campaign has attacked Sen. Clinton in the worst kind of personal ways, attacked her veracity, attacked her credibility, said that she would say or do anything to get elected, the press has largely applauded him," Wolfson said.

Wolfson's comments were prompted by a reporter's question over what seemed to be a change of tone for Clinton over the weekend, when she sharply criticized Obama in a press conference for distributing literature that she said misrepresented her position on NAFTA.

"Shame on you, Barack Obama," a visibly angry Clinton said Saturday. "Enough with the speeches and the big rallies and then using tactics right out of Karl Rove's playbook. This is wrong, and every Democrat should be outraged."

Wolfson denied the campaign was going negative, and faulted the press for not distinguishing between the contrasts Clinton is drawing and the personal attacks the the Illinois senator is launching.

"When we have attempted to make contrasts with Sen. Obama, we have been criticized for it," he said. "That is a fact of life that we labor under. I reject the notion that Sen. Clinton has been engaged in this sort of seriatim attacks on Sen. Obama. I think Sen. Obama's entire campaign against Sen. Clinton is negative.

"I think he has run against her as the status quo, he has essentially called her divisive, he has called her untruthful, he has questioned her credibility, he has said she will do and say anything to get elected," Wolfson also said. " If that's not negative, I don't know what negative is."

 

[punkin]

This may be too late........ but I believe that they have a valid point and should have been raising it all along!

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

It is about time. I wonder if it is too little too late or if Hillary's new more aggressive posture is going to help her.

 

[JARNJ3]

This is where I think Clinton has the edge. It amazes me that during the debates - the only foreign policy questions they get are about Iraq. What about the rest of the world?

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4340399&page=1

By JAKE TAPPER and ELOISE HARPER
Feb. 25, 2008

Hoping to regain some momentum from perhaps her strongest political asset, her perceived experience, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., delivered a foreign policy speech in Washington, D.C., this afternoon that assailed rival Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., as unwise, inexperienced, impulsive and indecisive — in short, a risk to the nation.

Clinton said that Obama "wavers from seeming to believe that mediation and meetings without preconditions can solve some of the world's most intractable problems to advocating rash unilateral military action without cooperation among allies in the most sensitive region of the world."

With a half-dozen retired generals standing behind her, Clinton said she was the only candidate who could restore a U.S. foreign policy that had the right combination of diplomacy and military might.

A sign on the podium proclaimed her election "Strengthening America."

Clinton Links Obama & Bush Experience

To a packed auditorium at George Washington University, Clinton seemed to imply Obama's lack of foreign policy credentials might mean he'd be a Democratic version of President Bush.

"We've seen the tragic result of having a president who had neither the experience nor the wisdom to manage our foreign policy and safeguard our national security," she said. "We can't let that happen again."

Clinton also mocked Obama by implication suggesting he would need a manual to understand the complexities of foreign diplomacy.

"The American people don't have to guess whether I understand the issues or whether I would need a foreign policy instruction manual to guide me through a crisis, or whether I'd have to rely on advisers to introduce me to global affairs," she said.

She directly criticized two facets of Obama's foreign policy proposals from the last year.

On Obama's suggestion he would meet with the leaders of nations hostile to the United States, she said, "We simply cannot legitimize rogue regimes or weaken American prestige by impulsively agreeing to presidential-level talks that have no preconditions. It may sound good … but it doesn't meet the real world test of foreign policy."

She also went after Obama as a reckless poseur for a speech he made last year where he said that with actionable intelligence he would be willing to send U.S. troops into Pakistan to take out high-level al Qaeda targets, with or without permission of the government of Pakistan.

"One thing the American people can be sure of," she said, "I will not broadcast threats of unilateral military action against a country like Pakistan just to demonstrate that I'm tough enough for the job. We have to change our tone and change our course."

With eight days until the critical March 4 primaries in Texas and Ohio, Clinton's tone today was measured and somber, even presidential — a contrast to the inconsistent tones marking her campaign appearances as of late.

At a debate Thursday she was effusive and warm toward Obama.

On Saturday, upset about two misleading Obama mailers she said, "Shame on you, Barack Obama!" On Sunday in Rhode Island she mocked Obama's lofty rhetoric with dismissive sarcasm.

After being criticized this morning as "divisive" by the Obama campaign for allegations that her staffers were circulating a photograph of Obama dressed in African garb during a trip to that continent in 2006, Clinton announced plans to meet this afternoon with a convention of members of a predominantly black sorority in Washington, D.C.

"The notion that they would try to use this to imply in some way that I'm foreign, I think is, you know, unfortunate," Obama said. "These are the kinds of political tricks and silliness you start seeing at the end of campaigns."

Clinton will head to Ohio on Tuesday morning.

Arlette Saenz and Steve Portnoy contributed to this report.

 

[JARNJ3]

I have decided that if Obama gets the nomination, I'll be sitting out the election or voting for McCain for two reasons:

1.) I'm so turned off by the Obama machine right now. The Obama supporters, the media, his campaign has made him look like the second coming of Christ. I'm so over it.

2.) I believe if he gets the nomination and wins, he will be a one-term president and the following 8 years will be back to Republicans. I truly feel that Hillary would be able to win a second term; him, not so much. I'd rather McCain have those 4 years then we can go back to a Democratic President.

I feel that I need to protect the Supreme Court from extremists. I thought about not voting, because most likely NJ will stay "blue" - but I've never not voted in a presidential election! This is the first time I may have to vote for someone I don't believe in.......

But I think I'm going to justify it in that - the Senate and House will also be democratic - and they'll be there to ensure that Obama doesn't screw up! I'm also hoping (if he gets the nom) that he will "grow" on me once I see him in action........

I can remember when W first took office - my democratic friends and I -- at first - were like - "ok - you say you're a uniter - let's see you in action....." only thing he united was his base!

Also - I can fall back on the fact that I can blame Oprah if it all goes wrong! (said tongue-in-cheek)