Hillary Supporters unite....no bashing please! only smiles

[DISUNC]

I stated this in another thread, but this seems like a good time to repeat. I can't see the Super delegates voting completely against the public if their is a wide margin between Hillary and Obama. Nor do I think it would be good for this party/country. But if Hillary can keep the race close - and the difference between her and Obama to a marginal amount of delegates she provides cover for the super delegates to vote for her. That's why I think she'll stay in the race till the bitter end..

Yes if it is a wide margin....BUT...it wont be a wide margin. The SuperDelagates are there to represent the will of the Democrat party (not independents & GOP member voting in the Democrat primaries). If we went by the will of the people, then there wouldn't even be a need for SD to begin with. The National SD came about because of the various States rules, allowing Independants & Republicans to vote in Democrat primaries.

If Hillary wins all the TRUE "Registered Democrat Only" voting states then the SD should go with her!

I've never done the caucus in the Texas Primary - partially because it's always been decided by the time we vote and partially because I didn't have a clue how this works. Bu I think this time, I better figure out how this work and do both voting and caucus.

I dont think ANYBODY understands the Texas primary system! Lets us know how you make out.

 

[Duckfan-in-Chicago]

Go figure!!

http://dyn.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/index.cfm/category/BarackObama

Drudge is leading with a picture of Obama in Somali garb, and it's in a bank-shot form that's become very familiar this cycle: Clinton is blamed for leaking it.

So far, these attacks have hurt Clinton more than they have Obama, and his campaign is intent on turning this to his advantage as well:

“On the very day that Senator Clinton is giving a speech about restoring respect for America in the world, her campaign has engaged in the most shameful, offensive fear-mongering we’ve seen from either party in this election. This is part of a disturbing pattern that led her county chairs to resign in Iowa, her campaign chairman to resign in New Hampshire, and it’s exactly the kind of divisive politics that turns away Americans of all parties and diminishes respect for America in the world," said Obama campaign manager David Plouffe.

I haven't been able to confirm the provenance of the picture, or get a hold of the Clinton staff email Drudge is quoting, and Clinton's campaign wouldn't comment .

Two peculiar sidenotes:

Obama's campaign seems to be relying with utter confidence on Drudge's reporting for its statement, a serious hat tip from the campaign to him.

And Drudge has a rare "Editor's Note," in which he rebuts the presumed contention that there's anything wrong with wearing Somali garb.

UPDATE: A reporter asked on a conference call with Obama advisors Susan Rice, Richard Danzig, and Scott Gration how they knew the email came from Clinton.

"I'm afraid we're not terribly well informed about it," said Danzig, who said he'd "love to hear [a denial] from them."


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Her campaign 'has engaged in one of the most shameful, offensive fear-mongering we’ve seen from either party in this election.' yet they admit they're really not sure it came from her campaign. She can't deny something they're not sure where it came from. Her people did say they had no direct knowledge.

Well it does seem that the Obama camp is willing to take Drudge as gospel from here on out, just and FYI.

 

[wvjules]

I feel that I need to protect the Supreme Court from extremists. I thought about not voting, because most likely NJ will stay "blue" - but I've never not voted in a presidential election! This is the first time I may have to vote for someone I don't believe in.......

But I think I'm going to justify it in that - the Senate and House will also be democratic - and they'll be there to ensure that Obama doesn't screw up! I'm also hoping (if he gets the nom) that he will "grow" on me once I see him in action........

Doesn't the Senate have to confirm Supreme Court Justices? If so, then even having McCain in there won't bother me too much. However, if I'm wrong someone please correct me so I can make an informed decision on my voting.

 

[robinb]

Well it does seem that the Obama camp is willing to take Drudge as gospel from here on out, just and FYI.

That was my take on it too. Plus, it would be sooooo stoopid for Hillary's campaign to release that picture to Drudge. I do not want to believe it. I would much rather believe that Drudge lied. Again. I don't know if we'll ever know for sure.

 

[punkin]

That was my take on it too. Plus, it would be sooooo stoopid for Hillary's campaign to release that picture to Drudge. I do not want to believe it. I would much rather believe that Drudge lied. Again. I don't know if we'll ever know for sure.

It seems the way you spin it depends entirely on who your candidate is. If you are an Obama follower, it is obvious that Hillary was to blame. If you support Hillary you can see how stupid the whole picture thing is and why would a bright woman like Hillary sanction such actions?

 

[robinb]

It seems the way you spin it depends entirely on who your candidate is. If you are an Obama follower, it is obvious that Hillary was to blame. If you support Hillary you can see how stupid the whole picture thing is and why would a bright woman like Hillary sanction such actions?

{shrug} I support them both.

 

[MassJester]

Doesn't the Senate have to confirm Supreme Court Justices? If so, then even having McCain in there won't bother me too much. However, if I'm wrong someone please correct me so I can make an informed decision on my voting.

Yes they do. But the ones that are (very) ready to retire are the judges that are associated with the freedom of choice and right to privacy decisions. Although McCain may not appoint radical conservatives, he likely won't appoint a pro-choice judge, and the Senate can either refuse to confirm (giving the pro-life judges the majority) or confirm out right a pro-life judge.

 

["Got Disney"]

I don't get the photo. So he went to Kenya and tried on native clothes. Who wouldn't do that? Sounds perfectly acceptable to me. Much better than Bush kissing Saudi Princes.

I agree it is kinda silty to make a fuss over...for either side. But I was watching CNN last night and they were interviewing Dick Morris who was once a Clinton adviser who is anti Hillary and For Obama....

He was going on how he knows that it was from Hillary's camp that sent it out and how basically vile she is and how great and wonderful Obama is.....when asked how he knows for sure he ate his words and said basically ..well I don't know for sure but I do, and yet he cant prove it, it was just his opinion that he was trying in the beginning to make it sound like he had proof.

Tonight's debate should be good and me thinks it wont be a nice one and Hillary will be to blame even if Obama throws his little digs in at her and she retaliates it will come back to haunt her as...

Poor Obama got hit by the BIG BAD WOLF Hillary AGAIN....

But I don't need to go through that here because we all ready get that....

Anyway how do you think the debate will be tonight...Do you expect fireworks or calmness...think she needs to play smart but not to sit back and take everything with a smile anymore.

 

[DISUNC]

Go figure!!

http://dyn.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/index.cfm/category/BarackObama

Drudge is leading with a picture of Obama in Somali garb, and it's in a bank-shot form that's become very familiar this cycle: Clinton is blamed for leaking it.
.

Even if this is remotely true....So what? I would be more concerned as to why The Obama people want to keep the pic a secret???


Much ado about nuttin!

But it does look like he was Aladdin for halloween one year!

 

[punkin]

But it does look like he was Aladdin for halloween one year!

I have a picture of DH in a dress for Halloween. He better not run for office.

 

[MerryPoppins]

She really needs to think on her feet tonight. I think she needs to make points showing her strengths and defend herself. She needs to be likeable yet strong, firm and yet not divisive. I wouldn't go on the offense unless he starts going after her. I don't like the mudslinging anyway and it never seems to work for her. But if he comes out swinging she has to come back with something or she looks weak.

I guess that's what gets me. And I'm not just talking about in dialogue with Obama, this is across the board. I personally think it's because she's a woman. If she is mild and just answers questions, she's a wimp. If she's strong, she's too assertive and an ice queen. If she comes back when she's attacked, she's a word that rhymes with witch. If she shows emotion, she's not tough enough to be POTUS. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that she can't seem to win. I think many people in this country are ready to have a black man as president, but not a woman. That only says a lot when you consider that many people in our country are still racist. It's just so sad.

 

["Got Disney"]

I have a picture of DH in a dress for Halloween. He better not run for office.

Well is he a DEM or a REP dressed in a dress.....that might make a difference to some mostly men that like men in dresses...he may get as many votes as Ron Paul ya know......he may even pick up some undecided votes and the Independents vote...

I say never underestimate a man in a dress.....

I am Got Disney and I approve this message

 

[punkin]

I guess that's what gets me. And I'm not just talking about in dialogue with Obama, this is across the board. I personally think it's because she's a woman. If she is mild and just answers questions, she's a wimp. If she's strong, she's too assertive and an ice queen. If she comes back when she's attacked, she's a word that rhymes with witch. If she shows emotion, she's not tough enough to be POTUS. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that she can't seem to win. I think many people in this country are ready to have a black man as president, but not a woman. That only says a lot when you consider that many people in our country are still racist. It's just so sad.

It really does amaze me, but I guess it is true that it is easier for a Black MAN to get elected in this country than any kind of WOMAN. There is a double standard and it is pervasive throughout the entire society, not just politics.

 

["Got Disney"]

Double post

 

[MerryPoppins]

I don't want anyone to read my last post and think I have a problem with a black man or woman running for POTUS. I don't. I grew up in a college town around people of many different races and I don't look at the world that way.

I just think it's interesting that I personally know people who are still racist. I hear people say things that I find sad and shocking, just because of the color of someone's skin. But I don't hear much against women.

And yet there seems to be this hidden belief that women still can't do important jobs. They're too emotional, too weak, too disorganized. And if they appear strong, intelligent, efficient, and competent, then they're disliked for being too pushy and witchy. Come one.

 

["Got Disney"]

I don't want anyone to read my last post and think I have a problem with a black man or woman running for POTUS. I don't. I grew up in a college town around people of many different races and I don't look at the world that way.

I just think it's interesting that I personally know people who are still racist. I hear people say things that I find sad and shocking, just because of the color of someone's skin. But I don't hear much against women.

And yet there seems to be this hidden belief that women still can't do important jobs. They're too emotional, too weak, too disorganized. And if they appear strong, intelligent, efficient, and competent, then they're disliked for being too pushy and witchy. Come one.

I did not get that from you on your post I got your point and it is true and have said it since I was young (am 50) that we will see a black Pres before we will see a woman...face it, it is a mans world..black, white, green(DISUNC would love a green Pres. lol) or yellow a man is a man is a man...

I believe that is why Obama is also getting a lot of the male white votes....my DH use to say that no way would he ever want a woman Pres because if she got PMS or was in Menopause she might hit the little red button PLEASSSSSSe....well maybe he has something there

My MAD COW DISEASE ( what I call my menopause) does make me a little crabby/crazy

sometimes...

 

[JARNJ3]

Interupting my busy work day (ssh don't tell the boss) to post a hopeful Hillary analysis.

Please take the time to read it........

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2008/02/is_it_over_1.html

 

["Got Disney"]

Interupting my busy work day (ssh don't tell the boss) to post a hopeful Hillary analysis.

Please take the time to read it........

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2008/02/is_it_over_1.html

Good article thanks for finding it it was a fair read and it was not for just one candidate it seemed to stay with facts...I wish all the media would do that and keep most of there opinions to themselves because it is putting a fog on my brain listening and trying to read/listen between the lines of favoritism.

 

[MassJester]

Interupting my busy work day (ssh don't tell the boss) to post a hopeful Hillary analysis.

Please take the time to read it........

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2008/02/is_it_over_1.html

I thought that was an excellent article -- good find!

I think the last sentence was really the bottom line: "Nevertheless, Clinton still has a reasonable shot if she can win next week."

 

[lauraf]

could anyone tell me what time the debate starts and what channel please? thanks Laura