Hillary Supporters unite....no bashing please! only smiles

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Why is Obama's speech getting all this media attention? Didn't Hillary give a speech about Iraq? Maybe if she had something juicy like infidelity (particularly with a high priced call girl) or a racist "moral compass" she could get some press. ;)



I mean, all Obama said was "I'm not a bigot, we should talk about this race thing."
 
I'll tell you a secret if you promise not to tell the Obama supporters. I have small batch roasted Kona in the house.

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Well, I don't even like coffee, so I'll join you. Just make mine something cold, sweet and with no caffeine. ;) I sort of lean towards Diet Coke most of the time.:rotfl:

I have Diet Pepsi?

Thanks Unc! I actually did step away and made myself a cup of chai tea. Then I leisurely put together the makings for tonights dinner - Chicken Tortilla Soup. Mmmm good!

I feel much better now.

:thumbsup2 We went EZ tonight Subs from WaWa's!:banana:

So, anything positive to say about Hillary --other than she's not Obama of course?

SEE POST 1799!:thumbsup2
 
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:thumbsup2 We went EZ tonight Subs from WaWa's!:banana:

Ok - that dancing banana always makes me laugh because whenever my son (17 and almost 6 feet tall) thinks I am feeling down - he does the banana dance to cheer me up. I wish I could post video - but I think I have embarrassed him enough by just telling the story!
 

I'll tell you a secret if you promise not to tell the Obama supporters. I have small batch roasted Kona in the house.
Ha, ha, ha! BUSTED!

I have a bag of fair trade Equal Exchange Sumatran in my freezer :lovestruc.
 
Umm, I was talking to Basas (our Canadian friend) who came on here to bash Obama. I highly doubt he's any fan of Hillary, thought.

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Ok - that dancing banana always makes me laugh because whenever my son (17 and almost 6 feet tall) thinks I am feeling down - he does the banana dance to cheer me up. I wish I could post video - but I think I have embarrassed him enough by just telling the story!

:lmao: WE WANT VIDEO!:thumbsup2

Ha, ha, ha! BUSTED!

I have a bag of fair trade Equal Exchange Sumatran in my freezer :lovestruc.

:lmao:

Great new pic of your DD, she is beautiful!:thumbsup2
 
Great new pic of your DD, she is beautiful!:thumbsup2
Thank you! I just changed it so people know where it is from. Those are all paper cranes behind her and the heart-shaped world is made of cranes too. Visiting Hiroshima was very moving. I bawled my eyes out at the Children's Monument.
 
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Thank you! I just changed it so people know where it is from. Those are all paper cranes behind her and the heart-shaped world is made of cranes too. Visiting Hiroshima was very moving. I bawled my eyes out at the Children's Monument.

When did you go to Japan? My DD is dying to go to Japan, but we have not been able to swing it yet.
 
When did you go to Japan? My DD is dying to go to Japan, but we have not been able to swing it yet.
We went last August. We did Hong Kong (including HK DL), Beijing, Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, Yokohama and Tokyo Disneyland. My husband travels for work weekly and we had TONS of airline/hotel miles.

ETA: The people in China were THE BEST. I have so many pictures of little Chinese kids with my DD :).
 
Umm, I was talking to Basas (our Canadian friend) who came on here to bash Obama. I highly doubt he's any fan of Hillary, thought.

Not bothering to respond to this. I'll post wherever I please, thanks.
 
Not bothering to respond to this. I'll post wherever I please, thanks.


Sure you can. :goodvibes But, we all know you have no love for Hillary, there's no need to be coy about it.
 
Sure you can. :goodvibes But, we all know you have no love Hillary, there's no need to be coy about it.

No, of course she is not my favorite but I do think she has been treated unfairly to a certain extent and at least she didn't belong to a white supremesist church. I didn't come here to insult Hillary, I came to agree with Hillary supporters who were discussing the issue; apparently thisisnt allowed if you're a conservative. The point is that there was no reason for your post except to launch a personal attack. I see liberals coming onto the Conservative board all the time; the threads are supposed to be open to all.
 
No, of course she is not my favorite but I do think she has been treated unfairly to a certain extent and at least she didn't belong to a white supremesist church. I didn't come here to insult Hillary, I came to agree with Hillary supporters who were discussing the issue; apparently thisisnt allowed if you're a conservative. The point is that there was no reason for your post except to launch a personal attack. I see liberals coming onto the Conservative board all the time; the threads are supposed to be open to all.

You are just as welcome here as the Obama supporters who refuse to go away and insist on trashing Hillary on this thread even though they have many other threads to trash her.
 
No, of course she is not my favorite but I do think she has been treated unfairly to a certain extent and at least she didn't belong to a white supremesist church. I didn't come here to insult Hillary, I came to agree with Hillary supporters who were discussing the issue; apparently thisisnt allowed if you're a conservative. The point is that there was no reason for your post except to launch a personal attack. I see liberals coming onto the Conservative board all the time; the threads are supposed to be open to all.


I never said you could not post here. I just was curious about your views about Hillary, that's all. I like both Hillary and Obama. I'm really looking forward to defending Hillary from all the nastiness that will erupt from all you kind Conservatives who have joined in the Obama hatefest, if/when she gets the nomination. Ta-ta till then.
 
You are just as welcome here as the Obama supporters who refuse to go away and insist on trashing Hillary on this thread even though they have many other threads to trash her.

I didn't trash her, I supported her! Actually I didn't say one negative thing about her despite what I may think! Don't worry though, I won't do it again.
 
I didn't trash her, I supported her! Actually I didn't say one negative thing about her despite what I may think! Don't worry though, I won't do it again.


You won't be holding back those thoughts about her when she gets the nomination, though, will you?
 
Interesting analysis on Obama, Hillary and voting patterns.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9111.html

Obama's racial problems transcend Wright

Barack Obama’s plunge into the race issue in Philadelphia Tuesday at times sounded more like a sermon than a speech.

But beneath the personal anecdotes and historical allusions, it was a delicately crafted political statement — one that makes clear that Obama understands exactly how much peril he is facing.

Even before the Jeremiah Wright controversy erupted in recent days, voting patterns in several states made clear — for all the glow of Obama’s reputation as a bridge-builder — how uneven his record really is when it comes to transcending deep racial divides.

The Philadelphia speech offered lines calculated to reassure all the groups with which he is most vulnerable.

For working class whites—whose coolness toward Obama helped tilt Ohio to Hillary Rodham Clinton — Obama spoke with understanding about why they dislike busing and affirmative action. “Like the anger in the black community, these resentments aren’t always shared in polite company,” he said.

For Hispanics, who have sided with Clinton in the vast majority of states this election, he lashed pundits scouring polls for signs of tension between “black and brown” and said the two communities face a common heritage of discrimination and inadequate public services.

Finally, Obama sought to connect with white Jewish voters — potentially one of the rawest nerves of all amid the Wright controversy — denouncing those blacks who see “the conflicts in the Middle East as rooted primarily in the actions of stalwart allies like Israel, instead of emanating from the perverse and hateful ideologies of radical Islam.”

It will take weeks, at least until the April 22 Pennsylvania primary, to know whether all of Obama’s political and cultural base-touching succeeded.

Even before that verdict arrives, the speech counts as a remarkable event — most of all for the specificity with which Obama discussed racial attitudes and animosities that politicians usually prefer to leave unmentioned.

Of his own candidacy, Obama said, “I have never been so naive as to believe that we can get beyond our racial divisions in a single election cycle, or with a single candidacy — particularly a candidacy as imperfect as my own.”

Truth be told, Obama and his most fervent supporters often have acted as if he could end some of the most persistent divisions in American life by proclamation.

When pressed on racial questions, Obama usually invoked his own biography and achievements and appealed to America’s hunger for unity. When pressed on a voting record that National Journal called the most liberal in the Senate, Obama dismissed ideological labels as “old politics.”

The Wright uproar showed that there is no way to sneak race and ideology through customs, blinding skeptics with his life-story and phrase-making. The candidate will need to address these volatile topics directly.

But this was becoming clear even before the Wright story caught fire.

It is true that Obama won a majority of white voters — a precedent-shattering achievement for a black presidential candidate — in an array of states like Illinois, Iowa, New Mexico, Wisconsin, and Virginia.

But many of his recent victories came when he got the better end of highly polarized voting patterns. He lost the white vote, sometimes by gaping margins in states like Alabama (whites went 72 percent for Clinton to Obama’s 25 percent), Maryland (52 to 42) and Louisiana (58 to 30). He compensated only with overwhelming support by black voters.

In Ohio, it was Clinton who benefited from the racial pattern in the voting. She took 64 percent of the white vote, according to exit polls. That was easily enough to offset his 87 percent of the black vote. Overall, she won the state by eight percentage points.

This result could haunt Obama. The past two general elections were tipped by narrow GOP victories in Ohio and these rural whites are a prototypical swing bloc in elections stretching back decades. Obama failed to win more than 35 percent of the vote in 11 of the 12 rural counties that border Pennsylvania.

Obama’s cross-racial and even cross-partisan support has been driven by a belief that he is a new-era politician, not defined by the grievances and ideological habits of an earlier generation.

Then came Wright, who Obama has described as an important mentor, suggesting that in important ways he is a product of familiar animosities. “Barack knows what it means to be a black man living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich, white people. Hillary ain't never been called a n——-,” he thundered in a sermon played relentlessly on television and the web this past week.

Merle Black, an expert on southern voters at Emory University, said Wright is a “huge, huge problem.”

“The new information, especially about his minister and his twenty-year association with this church, really undermines the message he’s been delivering for the last year, it completely undercuts it,” said Black.

Latinos have been an even tougher obstacle for Obama than whites. The only states where he has carried this group, Connecticut, Virginia, Illinois and Iowa, have relatively small Hispanic populations. Obama has worked hard to break down this bloc’s preference for Clinton, a task that likely is set back by Wright.

“There is an older generation, U.S. born, of the Latino population who can identify more with the black community on these civil rights issues and can identify with where the reverend is coming from,” said Angelo Falcón, president of the National Institute for Latino Policy. “There are also people who have not been here as long who are going to find the whole mix of the reverends’ words totally alien.”

Obama’s problems with some Jewish voters also predated the Wright coverage. The Illinois senator lost the Jewish vote by double-digits in Florida, New York, New Jersey and Maryland. He has been the victim of both an unwanted endorsement (Louis Farrakhan) and a dirty e-mail campaign claiming falsely that he is a Muslim.

In some quarters, his support of Israel has been suspect, despite his outspoken support for the U.S. ally. Wright didn’t do him any favors when he accused Israel of “state terrorism against Palestinians.”

“Wright’s comments make the job of supporting Obama in the Jewish community more difficult,” said a Jewish Democratic leader who asked that he not be identified by name in order to share his views more candidly. “On a rational level, Obama should be an easy sell in the Jewish community. This stuff is based on pure fear-mongering. There has been a concerted smear campaign against Obama that has targeted the Jewish community, in emails and conservative blogs.

“Obama’s speech is a powerful tool to be used in support of Obama,” he continued, “but on balance this is an issue that could have a negative impact on the Jewish vote.”
 
Of course it was a political, well crafted speech. I give him that definitely. It was calculated and well written, if only some people weren't treating it like the sermon at the mound.

Yeah - I do find that kind of disturbing. I enjoy and support Hillary - but she can make mistakes......
 
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