Hillary supporters Unit #3 ..yes we are still here!

["Got Disney"]

Hi everyone ...figured to keep the same name and we can work on changing it we feel so. But before we get booted thought we should start.

For those that are just coming aboard....some of us are now OS...some are now for McCain...some are still undecided and some of us will not vote...but we still have one thing in common....we are still HS...

So come and join us everyone is welcome.

 

[moon]

Oh, nice place!

 

[Dolce27]

No doubt everyone who campaigned about Obama used that ploy at some point. But Biden was not in an unprecedently high profile campaign as was Hillary/Obama. Biden dropped out before anyone knew he was running. It was always Hillarys race and I was for her. But she lost ( In my estimation, only because she initially underestimated him. Otherwise she would have won) . But it was clear she was going to lose for some time. And thats where she blew her VP chance.

If I haven't made it clear already....I was a big Hillary supporter.

But in reading this thread it's you in particular who keeps bringing up all these God awful things Obama did. How he's so corrupt. How he stole the election. Yet surprisingly, the republicans, or even Hillary , have decided not to use this information you have. I find this oh, so odd.

Share it with the press.

Again. I am/was a Hillary supporter. I still and always will admire her. She would be a great President. But she LOST. And she's not the VP choice because she dug her own grave.

And now..many people who were convinced that Hillary would be that great president that I agree she would be......proclaim that they will vote 180 degrees agains the very platform she has run on.......and against her own advice and counsel.
Some are even more convinced since a woman , 180 degrees against everything Hillary fought for, has been placed on the republican ticket.

I donated a fair chunk of change to Hillarys campaign. She lost. I'm not going to take my ball and go home. I'm going to honor her the best way I can and vote for the nearly same platform she ran on. I'm going to vote for the ticket that represents what SHE believes in. I'm going to vote in the manner that she quite clearly has asked us to.

Don't you mean me and not jacksonsmom?

And you are entitled to your vote. You own your vote just like I own mine and jacksonsmom owns her and GotDisney owns hers... bullying can't make a person change their vote.

And I disagree about her 'digging' her own grave and most of us don't think she 'dug' her own grave. But, again, you are entitled to your own opinion.

And, about news articles and facts about Obama that I bring on here, and others bring on here, the right has been covering it some. It's the liberal media that's pro-Obama that has been burying it. Don't worry... I honestly believe the GOP is ready and waiting... they have all of this info too.

Obama's relationship with Ayers is about to come out. I wrote this earlier today but it got buried in the craziness of today's announcement:

Obama’s running scared on this Ayers connection hitting mainstream. First was the released ad, which was factual, from the American Issues Project and showed the Obama-Ayers connection. I’ve done enough digging on the Ayers-Obama connection to know that the ad barley touched on the relationship – the ad could have gone much deeper. Obama flipped. His campaign sent out documents to the media outlets demanding the ad not be aired. Everything said in the ad can be backed up. It’s factual. Obama is now asking the Department of Justice to open a criminal investigation to stop the ad. Why so scared Obama? I guess because these are facts that can’t be dismissed and you don’t want the average American to know about it?

The other day on the WGN radio talk show with host Milt Rosenberg, they had Dr. Stanly Kurtz as a guest. Dr. Kurtz is the guy going through the Anneberg Challenge (CAC) files from the University of Illinois at Chicago. These are the documents that recently hit news because the University extended the offer to allow Dr. Kurtz to view them and then took back that offer. Finally, after weeks, he’s been allowed access to the files. What’s important about this is that it was started by William Ayers and he appointed Obama as chair for it. Dr. Kurtz is researching the Obama-Ayers relationship and is currently focusing on the $160 million six year long CAC from 1995 – 2001.

WGN invited Obama’s campaign to the show since the topic would be about the Anneberg files. Obama’s campaign refused. Instead they sent out an e-mail to supporters telling the supporters to call the station in protest. WGN’s phone lines and e-mail was “swamped with abuse” and Milt Rosenberg, who is noted as never being overtly partisan, was described as stunned by the hostility they were receiving. The OS were accusing Milt Rosenberg of “smearing” Obama’s name and accused Kurtz of lying. However, since they were only using the Obama’s campaign talking points and didn’t really know what this was about, when pressed for specifics – they had none to give. They just kept the phone lines jammed for at least an hour with hate.

So, yes, Obama doesn’t want you to know that he’s had a relationship with William Ayers and can be tied back to 1988 and that Ayers is one of the people who have helped him to climb this political ladder of his.

On other news: Some PUMA’s were approached the other night in Denver by a group trying to get more people to register to vote for the November election. Nice – right? Get more people to vote and become active in politics? The only thing: they didn’t care where these people they were trying to register were from. Unless they were citizens of Denver, they were not legally allowed to register to vote for Denver. So, there were people out trying to get everyone there for the convention to register to vote in Denver. The PUMA’s asked where the registration forms were being sent to and the group replied: MoveOn.Org.

I heard, I want to say it’s Pittsburg – but I could be wrong on the city – I need to go and look it up – they’ve realized that due to voter fraud they have more people currently registered in their city to vote than they actually have living in their city. I head that it was several thousand over… not just a few. They’re currently having to take the time to sort through the voter registrations.

And this is what is beginning to come out:

Barack Obama made it appear in public statements that he barely knew Ayers. Here is what he said at the Philadelphia debate in April about his relationship with the terrorist:

This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis. And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was eight years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense, George.

And here's what the Annenberg docs show so far:


The UIC records show that Obama and Ayers attended board meetings, retreats and at least one news conference together as the education program got under way. The two continued to attend meetings together during the 1995-2001 operation of the program, records show.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/08/annenberg_documents_show_exten.html

 

["Got Disney"]

Chobie I left a message for you on the last thread.....

Sorry I need to get off for a little bit but will be back....will be intersted to see how far this thread goes on this....

 

[akhenaten]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";27243979]That is so not true. I an 50/50.....Do I agree with all of McCain...nope...nor do I agree with all Obama has to offer. But when it comes to protecting us and experiance I lean towards McCain...When it comes to the Dem side of me I lean to Obama.



I feel that MCcain can do what he says ...I feel Obama cant. I also still question his judgement and his past. There are pros and cons to both Candidates for me at this time. When McCain talks I feel his commitment...when Obama talks I just here him talking to get elected. Can't help it it is just how i feel.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for taking the time to answer....

Funny ..I feel that Mccain would say or do anything to get elected and I think his VP choice is one example of that.

If you so deeply distrust obama , I don 't know what he could possibly do to change your mind.

I also think that the republican "free trade" ideas have lead to near disaster in our economy and the predatory lending we have seen that has ruined our housing market... artificially inflating housing prices to make them unaffordable and then screwing the people they gave the balloon mortgages to......

 

[chobie]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";27244302]Chobie I left a message for you on the last thread.....

Sorry I need to get off for a little bit but will be back....will be intersted to see how far this thread goes on this....[/QUOTE]

I'll answer you here. You said that it's not secret how I feel about Hillary. You're right -- I have said about a million times I would support her if she got the nomination this time and will support her if she gets it the next time.

 

[Par8hed]

Don't you mean me and not jacksonsmom?

And you are entitled to your vote. You own your vote just like I own mine and jacksonsmom owns her and GotDisney owns hers... bullying can't make a person change their vote.

And I disagree about her 'digging' her own grave and most of us don't think she 'dug' her own grave. But, again, you are entitled to your own opinion.

And, about news articles and facts about Obama that I bring on here, and others bring on here, the right has been covering it some. It's the liberal media that's pro-Obama that has been burying it. Don't worry... I honestly believe the GOP is ready and waiting... they have all of this info too.

Obama's relationship with Ayers is about to come out. I wrote this earlier today but it got buried in the craziness of today's announcement:



And this is what is beginning to come out:


http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/08/annenberg_documents_show_exten.html

I guess you're right. Obama is a closet muslim terrosist with a very,very well constructed plan to destroy America.
I personally would have approached it in a lower profile manner but thats just me.
I was wrong.
But you would have thought that W's phone taps would have picked up something by this point.

 

[moon]

What was it again?

Do you belive that Obama offered her the VP slot?

 

[chobie]

Do you belive that Obama offered her the VP slot?

I don't know. Honestly, I think it was discussed and neither one of them wanted to be the other's VP and they both had that understanding.

 

[Dolce27]

I guess you're right. Obama is a closet muslim terrosist with a very,very well constructed plan to destroy America.
I personally would have approached it in a lower profile manner but thats just me.
I was wrong.
But you would have thought that W's phone taps would have picked up something by this point.

Sarcasm does not become you. Sorry, try again.

 

[Par8hed]

And, about news articles and facts about Obama that I bring on here, and others bring on here, the right has been covering it some. It's the liberal media that's pro-Obama that has been burying it. Don't worry... I honestly believe the GOP is ready and waiting... they have all of this info too.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/08/annenberg_documents_show_exten.html

That makes sense. I can't imagine Rush Limbaugh or the "fair and balanced" Fox news running with this information. Especially Limbaugh who DETESTS McCain.

 

[ChrisFL]

The UIC records show that Obama and Ayers attended board meetings, retreats and at least one news conference together as the education program got under way. The two continued to attend meetings together during the 1995-2001 operation of the program, records show.

I still don't see how this means anything. He was in the same room as Ayers on several occassions...what does that prove?

 

[Par8hed]

I still don't see how this means anything. He was in the same room as Ayers on several occassions...what does that prove?

I'm going out on a limb here.

But I think it may mean they were in the same room.

(Probably with cameras and lots of other people but I'm completely speculating)

 

[akhenaten]

I still don't see how this means anything. He was in the same room as Ayers on several occassions...what does that prove?

Yeah.. I share the dis with many folks I would not agree with ( and I am not talkin about the Hillary folks)
You could quote some of them as proof that I hang out with "fill in the blank with the oddest dis'er /dis thread you have seen".............
It proves nothing other than I am a community board member and we are diverse... I am sure there are even some folks here who have broken the law.. I am not guilty, simply by association.....

 

[Dolce27]

I still don't see how this means anything. He was in the same room as Ayers on several occassions...what does that prove?

I'm going out on a limb here.

But I think it may mean they were in the same room.

(Probably with cameras and lots of other people but I'm completely speculating)

This proves that Obama has more of a relationship with Ayers than he will admit to and he's desperately trying to cover that right now. Actually, their relationship goes back to 1988 with the ABC's Organization and William Ayers is the one who launched Obama's political career at his, Ayers, house. Oh, and they were also on the Woodsboro Board Committee together.

If this is 'nothing' why is Obama passing this off publically as 'a guy who lives in the neighborhood' and is currently trying to suppress any info about the two of them being any more connected than that?

 

[DISUNC]

Remember me from the other thread??? Its me DISUNC!

It nice here, so new, so clean. Real 'creative title".... just sayin!


Carry on Clintonites!

 

[DISUNC]

I guess you're right. Obama is a closet muslim terrosist with a very,very well constructed plan to destroy America.
I personally would have approached it in a lower profile manner but thats just me.
I was wrong.
But you would have thought that W's phone taps would have picked up something by this point.

You mean the same phone taps that Obama VOTED FOR and SUPPORTED just last month???

 

[Dolce27]

You mean the same phone taps that Obama VOTED FOR and SUPPORTED just last month???

How could that be forgotten?

 

[DISUNC]

How could that be forgotten?

Seems that many OS'ers do. Along with the fact that Obama has voted YES on every single war funding bill.
And voted NO on the Low income Energy Assitance program.
Voted NO to raise the Minimum wage
...and all the real important bills that came up, that he talks about doing when he is President...and he never even showed up to for for them.

http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490



Obama talks the Talk, But certainly dont walk the Walk!

 

[pr surfer]

You mean the same phone taps that Obama VOTED FOR and SUPPORTED just last month???

And as of a few weeks ago at my last check, that was the largest group on Barackobama.com.

I don't agree with that piece of legislation, but overall, Obama's still the best choice for me. I'll just do my calls over a skype account now.