heard a rumor.. someone jump off Contemporary 2 hrs ago

[MakiraMarlena]

I believe this has happened at least once before.

One of the news articles indicates that the person in the recent incident was a guest, although they have no other info regarding that person. I believe the prior one was a Disney cast member who may have been despondent over the end of a relationship.

 

[Gillyrose779]

If it is indeed a suicide, what a coward to do that at Disney with the possibility of children seeing. Smh. Hopefully no young kids witnessed it or saw the body.

That's what I keep thinking. We have walked by the area - where I think this occurred- many times with my kids. It disgusts me to think families may have seen this.

 

[rteetz]

An investigation has been launched as of a few hours ago. I am sad to say that this rumor might be true.

I'm not doubting it is. It's unfortunate buts it's common.

 

[Mikie]

So sad that someone was apparently so desperate and so desperate for attention. . .

 

[DisneyLovingPreacher]

I'm not doubting it is. It's unfortunate buts it's common.

That is extremely sad. You wish it was not as common but sadly it is.

 

[Skywise]

If it had been something readily visible to the public I'm betting we would've seen all sorts of twitter posts about it by now from the families that were there.

 

[IceSkatingPrincess]

This is really tragic and obviously occurred in a less than ideal location, but I doubt someone in so much distress and mental illness that they would take their own life was even considering what some stranger's children may/may not see. Obviously the person had some larger things going through their mind. I feel terrible for the family.

 

[Flamingeaux]

Defective Pixie dust.

 

[lovethattink]

http://www.mynews13.com/content/new...cid=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Sad and tragic.

 

[runrowdy]

If it is indeed a suicide, what a coward to do that at Disney with the possibility of children seeing. Smh. Hopefully no young kids witnessed it or saw the body.

 

[eXo]

That's a false dichotomy. It assumes that suicide comes from a rational place and can always be blamed on external factors. Plenty of people have killed themselves even though they had very loving family and friends who where there for them, stable jobs, etc.. Depression and addiction have caused every suicide that has occurred to people in my life.

I take issue with the idea that it is someone else's fault for "treating them poorly". Very few people in this world are treated poorly enough to justify suicide. And I would hazard a guess that anyone who can afford to go to Disneyworld doesn't exactly make the cut of "oppressed people who have suicidal justification".

 

[umichigan10]

Firstly this is a terrible terrible thing for anyone to do regardless of the location.

An interesting note here is the roof is accessible from external stairs (I've done it before when I was exploring the hotel). There's like no one up there until California grill opens in the evening it'd be interesting to see if Disney could somehow restrict roof access to prevent people from getting up there due to incidents like this

 

[JoeA]

Perhaps this is really a distinction without a difference, but I wonder if they checked into the hotel with the sole purpose of doing this or if they were on vacation with friends and/or family and just decided it was as good of a time and place as any and jumped.

Shame either way.

 

[Angelcatsmom]

So sad that someone was apparently so desperate and so desperate for attention. . .

Maybe he was severely depressed and/or had a terminal illness and wanted the castle to be the last thing before he died. We don't know what was in his mind. If I had had my cancer diagnosis when I was there in 2013, I can't say I wouldn't have chosen Disney has my final resting place (but not by jumping, something more private).

 

[runrowdy]

That's a false dichotomy. It assumes that suicide comes from a rational place and can always be blamed on external factors. Plenty of people have killed themselves even though they had very loving family and friends who where there for them, stable jobs, etc.. Depression and addiction have caused every suicide that has occurred to people in my life.

I take issue with the idea that it is someone else's fault for "treating them poorly". Very few people in this world are treated poorly enough to justify suicide. And I would hazard a guess that anyone who can afford to go to Disneyworld doesn't exactly make the cut of "oppressed people who have suicidal justification".

I take issue with the term "coward". This quote, to me, points out who the real cowards are. Simple, to the point.

Never should we stop trying. Plenty see warning signs and choose to do nothing. I believe our military is facing this exact issue.

We have no idea of this mans circumstances, never will.

RIP man. Sympathy to those left to deal with the aftermath.

 

[Eoghann]

So sad that someone was apparently so desperate and so desperate for attention. . .

People don't kill themselves "for attention."

Generally they are severely depressed, dealing with mental issues etc.

 

[Eoghann]

Perhaps this is really a distinction without a difference, but I wonder if they checked into the hotel with the sole purpose of doing this or if they were on vacation with friends and/or family and just decided it was as good of a time and place as any and jumped.

Shame either way.

I often wonder about the events that lead up to things like this. What the thought process is? Doesn't change anything really and certainly none of us are in a position to judge. It's extremely unfortunate that no one recognized this person had reached a breaking point.

 

[Mikie]

People don't kill themselves "for attention."

Generally they are severely depressed, dealing with mental issues etc.

I believe its sad that anyone chooses to commit suicide. That he chose to do it near the monorail line at WDW says to me that not only was he desperate in general, but intending to make a statement or garner attention, even posthumously. Terribly sad either way.

 

[eXo]

I take issue with the term "coward". This quote, to me, points out who the real cowards are. Simple, to the point.

Never should we stop trying. Plenty see warning signs and choose to do nothing. I believe our military is facing this exact issue.

We have no idea of this mans circumstances, never will.

RIP man. Sympathy to those left to deal with the aftermath.

Suicide can most definitely be cowardly. It is a way to escape problems at the expense of ones life. Finances, broken hearts, etc... these are *really* stupid reasons to kill oneself. They can be fixed. They are temporary. So yes, in these cases it is cowardly to kill oneself, as it deprives every single person who knew them of the chance to help them. It is cowardly because the person who is now dead does not have to deal with the consequences of their actions. If they die over finances, they pass that debt to someone else. If they do it over a broken heart, they broke countless more.

Depression and addiction are a bit different. In these cases I would generally not use the term cowardly, but that doesn't mean it isn't selfish. Even a depressed person or someone dealing with withdrawal is aware of the people it will affect. At some point they actively made the choice that death was a better option than life, despite how it will affect those around them.

I lost a good friend about 4 months ago. He had a 12 year old daughter and an 8 year old son. He loved them to death. He had a good job, a great house, a great wife. And then found himself drinking too much. He went to rehab for 3 months. 2 days after getting home he killed himself. Despite how much respect I had for him, it doesn't change the fact it angered me he would do that to his kids. He owed it to them to get through his issues. He owed it to his family as part of the contract you sign yourself up for when you choose to marry and have children. So yes, it was selfish for him to do that. Those kids grow up without a father now, because he was too focused on HIM HIM HIM. That is the very definition of selfish.

Now, sure, you can get into a world of what-ifs about this guy. Maybe he was terminal. Maybe he was mentally unstable. Maybe this, maybe that. It doesn't change the fact he chose to kill himself in a public place that is specifically geared towards families. That, without a doubt, is selfish. He either went in to that hotel knowing he planned to kill himself, or he got some crazy news while he was there that pushed him off the deep end.

If he went in knowing he was going to do it, then screw him. That is all about attention and selfish bullcrap.

If he decided to kill himself based on something that occurred while he was there, then I lean towards the coward side of things. I don't care what scenarios you hypothetically toss out there, you can not find one that I will say, "Oh ya, hurling himself off the contemporary in front of families was a justified reaction."

 

[closetmickey]

Suicide can most definitely be cowardly. It is a way to escape problems at the expense of ones life. Finances, broken hearts, etc... these are *really* stupid reasons to kill oneself. They can be fixed. They are temporary. So yes, in these cases it is cowardly to kill oneself, as it deprives every single person who knew them of the chance to help them. It is cowardly because the person who is now dead does not have to deal with the consequences of their actions. If they die over finances, they pass that debt to someone else. If they do it over a broken heart, they broke countless more.

Depression and addiction are a bit different. In these cases I would generally not use the term cowardly, but that doesn't mean it isn't selfish. Even a depressed person or someone dealing with withdrawal is aware of the people it will affect. At some point they actively made the choice that death was a better option than life, despite how it will affect those around them.

I lost a good friend about 4 months ago. He had a 12 year old daughter and an 8 year old son. He loved them to death. He had a good job, a great house, a great wife. And then found himself drinking too much. He went to rehab for 3 months. 2 days after getting home he killed himself. Despite how much respect I had for him, it doesn't change the fact it angered me he would do that to his kids. He owed it to them to get through his issues. He owed it to his family as part of the contract you sign yourself up for when you choose to marry and have children. So yes, it was selfish for him to do that. Those kids grow up without a father now, because he was too focused on HIM HIM HIM. That is the very definition of selfish.

Now, sure, you can get into a world of what-ifs about this guy. Maybe he was terminal. Maybe he was mentally unstable. Maybe this, maybe that. It doesn't change the fact he chose to kill himself in a public place that is specifically geared towards families. That, without a doubt, is selfish. He either went in to that hotel knowing he planned to kill himself, or he got some crazy news while he was there that pushed him off the deep end.

If he went in knowing he was going to do it, then screw him. That is all about attention and selfish bullcrap.

If he decided to kill himself based on something that occurred while he was there, then I lean towards the coward side of things. I don't care what scenarios you hypothetically toss out there, you can not find one that I will say, "Oh ya, hurling himself off the contemporary in front of families was a justified reaction."

Suicide is not always "selfish" and "cowardly". And shame on those who call it as such without knowing. Often, one's suicide is thought of as the most selfless reaction as one completely thinks they are unworthy and people would be better off without them. I know. My dad committed suicide for just that reason. He was an incredible man, loved by so many. But just couldn't see that, It is so sad. Please do not pass judgement.