Hear me out on this...

[TuckandStuiesMom]

Dude, they're just up in your grill because you're blond, skinny and young. Wait until you're old and fat and they dump you like a hot potato.

Awwww... you're purty too, dear. As is EVERYBODY here! Well -- maybe Mr. Infernogirl needsta post his pic -- just so we'll know who we're dealin' with

 

[RickinNYC]

Awwww... you're purty too, dear. As is EVERYBODY here! Well -- maybe Mr. Infernogirl needsta post his pic -- just so we'll know who we're dealin' with

Yeah, I'm a flippin' vision of loveliness.

 

[wallyb]

Dude, they're just up in your grill because you're blond, skinny and young. Wait until you're old and fat and they dump you like a hot potato.

Flattery will get you...
anything you want.

Now off to the gym ...
then over to CVS for a box of L'Oreal "natural blonde"
and some more Olay regenerist.

 

[RickinNYC]

Flattery will get you...
anything you want.

Now off to the gym ...
then over to CVS for a box of L'Oreal "natural blonde"
and some more Olay regenerist.

LOL.

 

[padalyn]

ok - my thoughts....

when I read the first post - I thought ok, here is someone who is looking for information, when I read some of the followup and reply posts I was a little saddened. I had hoped that we could all just answer the questions posted without all the defensive posturing.

The thread did return to that - and I hope we answered the OP's questions with thought provoking and informative stuff.

I also hope that the OP will be strong enough to post under his own account now that he has "outed' himself. I am sure his wife would appreciate it. I do find it interesting that he chose to use someone elses' ID to ask the questions.

 

[RickinNYC]

umm, Dad???? isn't this supposed to be a disney board....

ok - my thoughts....

when I read the first post - I thought ok, here is someone who is looking for information, when I read some of the followup and reply posts I was a little saddened. I had hoped that we could all just answer the questions posted without all the defensive posturing.

The thread did return to that - and I hope we answered the OP's questions with thought provoking and informative stuff.

I also hope that the OP will be strong enough to post under his own account now that he has "outed' himself. I am sure his wife would appreciate it. I do find it interesting that he chose to use someone elses' ID to ask the questions.

LOL! To your first comment.

I do think there are likely a number of other questions the OP and her husband might have re: planning their coming WDW trip during Gay Days. I just hope one or both return so we can all give them a hand with their questions/concerns.

 

[RickinNYC]

And yep, edited my own self 'cause Pad was right. Dirty jokes are inappropriate on the DIS site. Someone slap the crap out of my hand please.

 

[rpmdfw]

Post right here and ask away. Admittedly, there will be a few who may be offended by the course of questioning, and I understand that. At the same token, I would much rather have someone ask questions, no matter how invasive, in the hopes that you learn a bit more. How else is anyone to learn without asking?

I'll be the first in line to support a straight individual who seeks more information about the g/l/b/t community, even if their line of questioning may be construed as potentially offensive. I'd rather they ask, than simply make assumptions which likely aren't true.

Folks, how can anyone hope to gain insight (that we hope for) without first bringing up the topic at hand. I'd much rather have someone ask "What do I tell my children if they see two men holding hands?" as opposed to "I don't want my children to see two men holding hands because I don't know what to say."

This is such an excellent point, Rick!

We repeatedly talk about how we love our "open minded straight friends" (aka Cool Straight People), but sometimes need to remember that the path to open mindedness is asking questions and seeking information. Perhaps people were upset with how the questions were asked, but the important thing here is that the questions WERE asked!

Mr. Infernogirl, bravo to you for you courage. I applaud your desire to look out for your family, but also your willingness to seek us out for a clearer picture of what to expect. I hope we haven't disappointed you. Come back any time!

 

[TammieLand]

"We" do love a good sing-a-long!

Clang, clang, clang
went the trolley
ding, ding, ding
went the bell
zing, zing, zing
went my heartstrings
from the moment
I saw him, I fell

Wally B - you need to come visit and sit in on my sets. I love, love, love sing a longs - great fun and I still get paid!!!

 

[TammieLand]

Ok,OK

Gone for a day and this thread grew. Thanks to all for aheads up. I dont really want to start a thread bashing on here esp since it will be against me and I do want to start having an open mind, even though, I might have a hard timing doing it, where is a good place to get answers that might help me out? And I do have alot of questions...

I will actually start it out, I am not InfernoGirl but rather her husband using her login to this forum. Normally I am a car/motorcycle forum junkie but I am also a (lack for better words) closet Disney fan! I didnt want to start off with saying that because the thread could have went a different way. So I applogize for that.

BTW...Honey if you see this, sorry I used your login. Just wanted to see what to expect on this vacation.

I hope you have a wonderful time on your vacation!! It's hard to have a bad day at Disney.

....come outta the Disney Closet...it's okay - we're all here for you!

 

[wallyb]

Wally B - you need to come visit and sit in on my sets. I love, love, love sing a longs - great fun and I still get paid!!!

I have a friend who was asked to leave a piano bar for
singing too loud.

 

[rpmdfw]

I have a friend who was asked to leave a piano bar for
singing too loud.

I can top that. I was asked to please not sing in the shower.

 

[TammieLand]

I have a friend who was asked to leave a piano bar for
singing too loud.

Not in my audience - NO SUCH THING!!

 

[TammieLand]

I can top that. I was asked to please not sing in the shower.

That's very funny - When my partner and I first met - <in a galaxy far, far away> she would always come to "our" gigs. Bless her heart, she has an awful voice, one of those where she puts her hand up to her ear and gives it an honest to gosh try...know what I mean...

So, so sad.....

Thankfully, my gigs got "old" and she stays home most nights...whew...

 

[Timon-n-Pumbaa Fan]

Yes, I am fine with Mr. Infernogirl posting questions too. I am also a bit hyper-sensitive to folks being total jerks on the internet, so I take more a defensive pose, when I see someone new come in and ask questions that are potentially meant to

I know that most of you know that I have no problem stating my opinions. So, now that we know that Mr. Infernogirl is open to seeking answers, yes, after a good I do believe that we should do our best to be polite and answer him respectfully.

Personally, I am middle aged, in a relationship for almost 9 years and pretty boring. The most exciting thing in my life outside of my relationship is my new scooter and my last Disney trip.

Sorry if I offended you Mr. Infernogirl. I just worry about my friends here. I would welcome you to become a new friend, if you are so inclined.

 

[rosiep]

Yeah, I'm a flippin' vision of loveliness.

Rick I think you're a cutie.....remember I am 45 years old my own self....the younguns' are just babies I want me a man!

PS...WallyB...I'm not shallow, I want you for your mind!really...I swear.....no...really

 

[wallyb]

I want me a man!

I'll take one too!
And a side of frys.

 

[wallyb]

Wally B - you need to come visit and sit in on my sets. I love, love, love sing a longs - great fun and I still get paid!!!

Hey I forgot I'm going to a birthday party next month - one of those booze cruise thingys -
and it's going to have a group called The Radiators - from your neck of the woods - ever heard of them.

 

[InfernoGirl]

well, when I figure out how to ask questions that wont get to heated I will ask. I will try a couple though. You all seem to be a pretty good, a bit wild but defiantly crazy bunch. Perhaps there isnt much difference between us all. Maybe I can meet a few of ya in PI while we are there? Promise to take it easy on me though.

Let me ask these and I will see if you still want me around. I am a christian and with that up bringing and what I have learned/lectured, I was always taught it was wrong. I was even shown the passage, whats the reply on that?

This one goes along with the one above and its about marriage. If in the bible it says ****(what word can I use thats PC?)is wrong against God then how can you guys/gals get married under god? Marriage can be looked at two ways, legal binding agreement or a spritual bonding under gods word/faith.

Wow I jsut reread that and almost deleted it but those were on tv jsut know so those are my first questions?

 

[Timon-n-Pumbaa Fan]

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibl.htm

They have the info there that you are seeking for a bit of clarification. I can not totally address your concerns, and I am not sure that anyone can. This is an issue that caused me years of pain and soul searching and prayer. I was raised Baptist. I had been taught from an early age in the church that it was wrong. I was beaten by my mother when I was 9 because a girl that was 2 years older than me kissed me and we were caught in the act by our mothers. So, for sure the lesson that two girls should not be together was learned that day. Later on, the waters muddied a bit. My parents were making a will and asked me who I wanted to have take care of me if they passed. I chose the option of my mother's cousin. It was then explained to me that "uncle Michael" wasn't really my uncle and that he and cousin Pat were "together". So, I was then taught that two men being together could sometimes be ok. So, that was confusing. I knew how I felt deep inside, but I remembered that beating from when I was 9 and all of those sermons at church. When I finally got so miserable with myself that I knew that I couldn't deny where my heart was trying to take me, I had a major point to work/grieve through. What about my relationship with God?

Basically, it came down to very personal discussions with God. I had a lot of them. In the end, I chose to embrace the positive ideas about being a child of God, that God didn't make mistakes and that for every person here on Earth, there is a mate. I feel that as a child of God, that I am not a mistake and I am certainly entitled to be happy and joyful. I have been blessed, yes, I call Corey "My gift from God" because she is nothing short of that. I went through a lot of stuff to get to the point in my life where I could be the person that was right for her to be with and to love forever. We are good to and for each other. I can't imagine my life without her. I am happy to say that I still have a close personal relationship with God. I still take Jesus Christ to be my Lord and Savior. I believe in the miracle of redemption through the blood of Jesus Christ and that God knows my heart. I believe that I am saved and that my relationship with Corey is a gift from God.

Now, as to the issue of Marriage. In this country, there is this whole idea/law about there being a separation of church and state. I view my civil right to Marriage as being a legal issue, not a religious issue. One day, we are going to find ourselves with enough open minded folks in power that can see past the $$$ thrown at them from the religious PAC's and maybe we can have the rights that everyone else has in this country.