Has it really gone up that much?

[jbehr12]

It's not that hard to spend that much TODAY much less several years from now. Stay at a bungalow at the Poly (rack rate around $3,000 a night) for 7 nights (e.g., Poly b), do a VIP tour one day (minimum of $2,975 at the lowest rate available, not including the required tip), and boom, you're t $24,000 before you even account for tickets and food.

I would like shake the hand of the person that will spend that much on a Disney vacation. My hat goes off to whoever they are, probably related to royalty or the heir or a major corporation lol

 

[DGsAtBLT]

The free dining isn’t free crowd always comes off so condescending. It’s semantics, it’s a discount that works better for some families than a room discount. Nobody needs to explain why it isn’t “free”.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

And yup the prices have gone up that much.

The tickets are particularly jarring lately IMO. Hotels and food feels like a more steady increase, maybe that’s just my perception. We’ll be paying around $200 a ticket more for my parents and kids on our next trip, it’s 2 years almost to the date since our last.

 

[AngiTN]

The rack rate at POFQ in 2010 ranged from $168/night for a weeknight during value season to $264/night during holiday season for a standard location room. In 2020, the same room (rack rate) would cost anywhere from $246-$392. That’s an increase of $78-$128/night over an 10-year period, which comes to an increase of about $8-$13/night per year for an average yearly increase of just north of 5% annually.

Now, that’s not a huge increase in rates. Certainly above the rate of inflation but not an outrageous jump. Nothing costs what it did 10 years ago. I wish my health insurance only increased at the same rate as Disney hotel rooms.

Oh, and I looked up my room cost per night, from 2 years ago (when my oldest wasn’t a true adult), same timeframe then was $429/night. This time (apples to apples without the extra adult charge) was $457. A $28/night increase in two years. That’s about 6%.

Y'all are gonna burst some bubbles with all your real life comparisons showing that Disney hasn't doubled, or more, in prices. LOL

 

[Tessaf]

It's not that hard to spend that much TODAY much less several years from now. Stay at a bungalow at the Poly (rack rate around $3,000 a night) for 7 nights (e.g., Poly b), do a VIP tour one day (minimum of $2,975 at the lowest rate available, not including the required tip), and boom, you're t $24,000 before you even account for tickets and food.

While pricing our packages for our trip next year at GF in May for 8 nights. Me, DH, DD12,DD9 the cheapest package is 8500 and TPV main building is 15k. Without flight and food!
Add in extras like EMM, DAH, tours, other special events or any of the holiday parties (depending on time or year), if could easily be 12-20k.
Obviously one could save a lot by doing a different hotel, staying offsite, not doing extras events, etc.. I agree with your post, it can add up.

 

[Mainsail Minnie]

While pricing our packages for our trip next year at GF in May for 8 nights. Me, DH, DD12,DD9 the cheapest package is 8500 and TPV main building is 15k. Without flight and food!
Add in extras like EMM, DAH, tours, other special events or any of the holiday parties (depending on time or year), if could easily be 12-20k.
Obviously one could save a lot by doing a different hotel, staying offsite, not doing extras events, etc.. I agree with your post, it can add up.

I think this is getting a little off-point. Yes, everyone here knows that you could spend tons of money at WDW by staying as a family for a week plus at one of the most expensive rooms at one of the most expensive resorts.

But the topic on this thread is price increases, not how much it's possible to spend. The PP who initiated the $24,000 trip comment said that her currently planned trip is half that, and she was budgeting for double for just two years from now, expecting prices for the same type of trip to go up that much. Most people on this thread thought that prospect was ridiculous.

 

[Marionnette]

Y'all are gonna burst some bubbles with all your real life comparisons showing that Disney hasn't doubled, or more, in prices. LOL

Well, not so fast...while hotel prices have not had the dramatic jump in price that is often cited on this board, ticket and food prices have.

In 2010, a 7-day park hopper (adult) cost $301 and could be used at any time of the year. In 2020, that same ticket would cost around $548 in September but $702 during Christmas week! That’s an increase that ranges from 82%-133% over a 10-year period (and we may see another increase before 2020 is over).

And looking at the DDP in 2010, it was $42/night per adult but did not include alcohol and only provided 1 snack per night. In 2020, the cost has risen to $78/night per adult. But now it includes an alcoholic beverage with both QS and TS meals and a second snack credit per night. So, maybe it’s not an apples to apples comparison. Regardless, it’s an 86% increase over 10 years and it’s not as if you can choose to purchase the 2010 version of the plan today.

My point is, those who are venting about Disney’s prices rising at atrocious rates do have a valid complaint. But it’s not the resort costs that are driving it. Ticket and food prices have gone up at a dizzying rate. And I think Disney is beginning to see some backlash. In Q3, Disney reported that the resort occupancy was high but park attendance was lower compared to 2018. This in spite of the fact that Q3 2019 included Easter Weeks, while Q3 2018 did not. Overall, “per guest” spending was up, mostly due to increased ticket prices.

I fully expect Disney to continue to adjust their seasonal discounts on rooms to reflect what the market will bear. And they will find inventive ways to lure guests to the parks with ticket deals like the “after 12 PM” tickets that were recently introduced.

 

[Disneylover99]

I think this is getting a little off-point. Yes, everyone here knows that you could spend tons of money at WDW by staying as a family for a week plus at the most expensive rooms at the very expensive resorts.

Yes.

But the topic on this thread is price increases, not how much it's possible to spend. The PP who initiated the $24,000 trip comment said that her currently planned trip is half that, and she was budgeting for double for just two years from now, expecting prices for the same type of trip to go up that much. Most people on this thread thought that prospect was ridiculous.

I’m still trying to figure that out as well, since they’re staying at Pop.

We are a family of four booked for two weeks over Christmas and New Years staying at Pop. Our total with ten day hoppers and free quick service dining is $6000. Much more then we payed in 2018 and 2017, but nowhere near $12000.

Even if they didn’t get fd and opted to pay for deluxe dining, their total would be well under $9000. I guess they could be paying a fortune in airfare. That’s possible.

 

[Disneylover99]

Well, not so fast...while hotel prices have not had the dramatic jump in price that is often cited on this board, ticket and food prices have.

In 2010, a 7-day park hopper (adult) cost $301 and could be used at any time of the year. In 2020, that same ticket would cost around $548 in September but $702 during Christmas week! That’s an increase that ranges from 82%-133% over a 10-year period (and we may see another increase before 2020 is over).

And looking at the DDP in 2010, it was $42/night per adult but did not include alcohol and only provided 1 snack per night. In 2020, the cost has risen to $78/night per adult. But now it includes an alcoholic beverage with both QS and TS meals and a second snack credit per night. So, maybe it’s not an apples to apples comparison. Regardless, it’s an 86% increase over 10 years and it’s not as if you can choose to purchase the 2010 version of the plan today.

My point is, those who are venting about Disney’s prices rising at atrocious rates do have a valid complaint. But it’s not the resort costs that are driving it. Ticket and food prices have gone up at a dizzying rate. And I think Disney is beginning to see some backlash. In Q3, Disney reported that the resort occupancy was high but park attendance was lower compared to 2018. This in spite of the fact that Q3 2019 included Easter Weeks, while Q3 2018 did not. Overall, “per guest” spending was up, mostly due to increased ticket prices.

I fully expect Disney to continue to adjust their seasonal discounts on rooms to reflect what the market will bear. And they will find inventive ways to lure guests to the parks with ticket deals like the “after 12 PM” tickets that were recently introduced.

It’s definitely the increase in tickets, with a family of four, especially over Christmas, that get to me, more then the hotel prices.

 

[Darklord77]

Y'all are gonna burst some bubbles with all your real life comparisons showing that Disney hasn't doubled, or more, in prices. LOL

I think we got bogged down in a specific part of the Disney vacation costs: hotel rates. The hotel is only 1 of 3 parts of the package. At the end of the day the total package price for the same exact vacation is $2,500-3,000 more over a 10 year period. That is double what I paid. That is including the same 25% discount I got in 2010.

The rack rate at POFQ in 2010 ranged from $168/night for a weeknight during value season to $264/night during holiday season for a standard location room.

Won't argue with these numbers. $168 with a 25% discount puts you in the lower end of the range of what I said I paid: $120-140.

 

[tlmadden73]

In November 2016, during the free dining promotion, my husband and I and another couple were able to stay at the Boardwalk for five nights with 5-day park hoppers for $3,937.24. We are not planning a trip this year, but just out of curiosity I priced out the same trip under the current free-dining promotion = $4,930.76. Have things really gone up that much in 3 years, or am I doing something wrong? We enjoyed our stay there so much and was very hopeful that we might be able to return someday, but not at these prices.

The short answer is yes .. even on the cheaper rooms.

I paid $98/night for All-Star Musics (that was with AP discount). Add in the $12/night for "parking" and that is significantly more than the $85/night I paid for the same timeframe 4 years ago and at Pop Century (generally more popular and expensive than All-Stars). That was with just a "normal" Disney discount.

Still .. if you look at regular hotels (chain hotels) .. most of those have risen just as much. 5+ years ago you could regularly find a Hampton Inn for $100 or under, now I am lucky to find one for under $120. Even the cheaper brands (that server breakfast) (like Comfort Suites, LaQuinta, etc.) are around $100 for most of your "off the freeway" hotels. Whatever the Disney prices are, they seem on-point with the hotel industry as a whole.

The problem is that Disney's DELUXE hotels are so crazy expensive --the same percentage increase seems like a fortune.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

It’s definitely the increase in tickets, with a family of four, especially over Christmas, that get to me, more then the hotel prices.

We saw a major increase with our exact same tickets in just 2 years. Ticket cost is the main driver in the increase my family is seeing.

 

[AngiTN]

I think we got bogged down in a specific part of the Disney vacation costs: hotel rates. The hotel is only 1 of 3 parts of the package. At the end of the day the total package price for the same exact vacation is $2,500-3,000 more over a 10 year period. That is double what I paid. That is including the same 25% discount I got in 2010.



Won't argue with these numbers. $168 with a 25% discount puts you in the lower end of the range of what I said I paid: $120-140.

Well, to be fair, this is the RESORT section, so yeah, topics lean to talking about Resorts.

 

[Sandiz08]

Yep, gone up by, a lot! Maybe it just means it's time for those deluxe resort vacations to turn into value or moderate resort vacations.

 

[Farro]

Yep, gone up by, a lot! Maybe it just means it's time for those deluxe resort vacations to turn into value or moderate resort vacations.

We had to switch from Yacht Club to Gran Destino this upcoming trip - the cost of room per night was less than half of Yacht Club!!!

Gran Destino is about as moderate as I will get.

 

[jbehr12]

While pricing our packages for our trip next year at GF in May for 8 nights. Me, DH, DD12,DD9 the cheapest package is 8500 and TPV main building is 15k. Without flight and food!
Add in extras like EMM, DAH, tours, other special events or any of the holiday parties (depending on time or year), if could easily be 12-20k.
Obviously one could save a lot by doing a different hotel, staying offsite, not doing extras events, etc.. I agree with your post, it can add up.

We’re talking about a trip for two. Four people is clearly going to raise the price significantly.

 

[NWOhiogal]

It'll be interesting to see what happens if we end up in a recession. Those prices are going to have to come down, or a lot fewer Americans are going to be going to Disney in the coming years.

 

[lacy1101]

Yep, gone up by, a lot! Maybe it just means it's time for those deluxe resort vacations to turn into value or moderate resort vacations.

Actually, most of our past trips have been value or moderate. We've only stayed deluxe four times out of the 18 trips where we stayed on property. The occasional deluxe stay has been an exceptional treat for us . . . a treat we most likely will not get to enjoy again. Instead, we will be paying similar prices for a moderate stay.

 

[lacy1101]

We’re talking about a trip for two. Four people is clearly going to raise the price significantly.

If you're referring to my original post, I am talking about a trip for four.

 

[Marionnette]

It'll be interesting to see what happens if we end up in a recession. Those prices are going to have to come down, or a lot fewer Americans are going to be going to Disney in the coming years.

Disney will not devalue their products. The rack rates will remain the same or go up even through a recession. What they will do is offer bigger discounts and incentives to put heads in beds.