Has anyone changed their opinion of SSR?

[Bichon Barb]

Nice post Barb! You've got a really good point there. I think all the couches are hideous in comparison to SSR

If the powers that be at DVC are reading this thread and feel that my post is helping SSR sales, I would be willing to compare bedspreads for a payment of a 150 point contract.

 

[sajetto]

What data/fact do you base this on? A DIS poll? A "tabulation" of reponses from different threads, your own opinion?
Or does this stuff come to you in a vision?

Its funny you ask this Tinky.
B3 is always asking for so called "research"
So come on B3 show us the research on this. What are the independent and dependent variables. How was it researched? Was it casual comparitive, quasi-experimental, a comparison of 2 baselines? I'd love to know where you get this. Also, who researched it and how? How do you back up its vailidity and reliablity. Were the control and experimental groups informed of this study?

 

[boatboatboat]

Sam when dvc builds a resort 4 times the size of ssr, and that resort is in a location that is MUCH WORSE then SSR, your days of booking less then 210 days out will be over.

I look forward to your comments on that day.

 

[Sammie]

If the powers that be at DVC are reading this thread and feel that my post is helping SSR sales, I would be willing to compare bedspreads for a payment of a 150 point contract.

You do have to wonder at times are they color blind. Thanks for posting all of them at the same time, I vote for the SSR one over the others. Not great but certainly among the other candidates, a winner!

 

[lts862]

That might be true (no way to prove it though); but that is also like saying certain cars sell better than other brands. However I would hate for the car industry to only offer me the option of the best seller.

I can respect your opinion that SSR might not sell as quickly as the others; but that does not mean it's an inferior product.

As long as there is a market for what SSR offers I don't see why you should care. I find it insulting to think that myself and others can not make up their minds for themselves without at times being made to seem like we don't have a brain.

I like SSR, nothing you can present will change that and at this point not sure why you care. I think at this point many of us are just tried of you beating the SSR horse to death over and over and over.

Surely you can find something else to discuss.

Excellent post, Sammie!!!

 

[boatboatboat]

So come on B3 show us the research on this

dvc built here after bcv/bwv/vwl for a reason.

OKW was a "test" to see if the dvc concept would sell. Once that test showed it would DVC built in the prime areas. What was left was a failed disney intitute loaction.

those are simply the facts.......

don't kill the messenger.

 

[Sammie]

your days of booking less then 210 days out will be over.

I don't have a problem booking at 210 days out. I have to sign up for my vacation a year in advance anyway and it's not flexible after that.

I look forward to your comments on that day

Hopefully when that times come I won't have time to be on the forums to discuss it and will have a real job that will occupy my time.

I don't have a problem with SSR's location and would not mind a resort anywhere on Disney property. We truly are not into being at one certain location. We can drive and do.

Like I said it's just that this has been beat to death, and needs to be put to rest. If you have a gripe take it up with DVC, please.

 

[sajetto]

So come on B3 show us the research on this

dvc built here after bcv/bwv/vwl for a reason.

OKW was a "test" to see if the dvc concept would sell. Once that test showed it would DVC built in the prime areas. What was left was a failed disney intitute loaction.

those are simply the facts.......

don't kill the messenger.

So, you are in fact telling me you have no research.

You are consistiently asking for research yourself. What I feel compelled to ask you is "what do you really know about research?" The public often confuses surveys for this. BTW you are speaking to a person who actually teaches graduate level courses on educational and experimental research so there is no double talking on this issue.

 

[crisi]

BCV does win the ugly couch contest. Hands down - with bonus points. I'm not planning on staying there either - because I can't stand that couch!

Different strokes - glad lots of people like the decor of SSR - won't hire you as my decorator, but you won't be hiring me as yours.

(BWVs, my dear home, wins the ugly shower curtain award - but only have to see it when you are in the bathroom with a shower curtain).

I like the couch at HHI - much more to my taste.

I'm fond of the VWL decor - but I know a lot of people find it too dark.

Everyone has priorities in there resorts. Some like having room service. I don't like certain decorating styles.

 

[boatboatboat]

so Sam what are your thoughts on the mugs? do you take your to other resorts?

ohhhhhhh have you used ME yet? did it work?

can you save money on the dining plan? will they allow my wife and I to split a meal?

what about AP's, are those a good deal, we plan on spending 30 days in the park. Would we be better off to buy 30 one day park hoppers?


how much do you think points should rent for?

 

[boatboatboat]

So, you are in fact telling me you have no research.

DVC Orlando is based upon WDW, i don't need "research" to detrmine which locations are best.

A simple look at room #'s vs pool size and room # vs on site places to dine, will show you all you need to know............

You are consistiently asking for research yourself.


show me more then 2 times where I have done that.

I'll wait.....

 

[sajetto]

Internet forums specifically, are notoriously poor indicators of what a total population believes.

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show me a link of a study that shows this.

Studies are much more involved than you and many others realize them to be. If you can't prove it's reliablity and vailidity then you essentially have nothing. I've caused many of my students a great deal of distress trying to explain this to them when I get papers that say "This will be proven vailid by a signed document of understanding by both the control and treatment groups"

Your subjects telling you that they understand or they have knowledge means squat...show me the proof

 

[Tinky]

DVC Orlando is based upon WDW, i don't need "research" to detrmine which locations are best.

I was waiting for ... 'don't bother me with the facts"

 

[boatboatboat]

sajetto that's one........

I'll wait for the others.

chop chop

 

[shantay1008]

B3 has often brought up the idea that we SSR people will finally get what he's on about when DVC builds a property in what we all consider to be a really bad spot and then we have to compete with the people who bought there to get rooms at our home, SSR.

There is a certain, knee-jerk "oh no" reaction to this, I suppose, but then if you stop and think about it, I don't know that it's something to get spun up about. For one thing, as we've seen here at least, a lot of SSR owners think the resort and the location are great.

So B3's analogy feels a little leaky already because he's assuming that SSR owners dislike SSR's location (again: we like SSR's location), and that future DVC owners will dislike the location of their new resort, too. Why not wait to confirm that the new DVC will have a terrible location before getting worked up about it and assuming that everyone will just hate it?

I guess the other thing is, are people really being "forced" to stay in resorts (any DVC resort) that they don't like on a regular basis? Is this an actual problem at this point? Just wondering....

And thank you to the poster who reminded us that we're lucky to be at Disney World at all.

Shannon

 

[Sammie]

so Sam what are your thoughts on the mugs? do you take your to other resorts?

Don't buy them, have a villa with kitchen, see no need to.

ohhhhhhh have you used ME yet? did it work?

Don't fly, don't use it.

can you save money on the dining plan? will they allow my wife and I to split a meal?

If you are used to eating that much food, it saves money. Sharing is fine.

what about AP's, are those a good deal, we plan on spending 30 days in the park. Would we be better off to buy 30 one day park hoppers?

Annual passes are a good investment for anyone spending more than 9 days in the parks.

how much do you think points should rent for

I don't rent.

Now it's obvious you can discuss other things other than the short comings of SSR, let's see if you can keep it up though.

Even though I have a feeling your questions were more about being sarcastic and less about wanting my opinions and totally off topic.

 

[sajetto]

B3, you are double talking. "What do you know about research?"

Riddle me that. Unlike some who spend all day on these boards, I have a life. I am paid to know and understand research and to educate college educated individuals in the specifics of it so that they understand what is real and what is crap. I am not going to spend an hour going through all 490 of your posts that you've managed to generate in the very short time you've been here to find the # you're asking for. I've seen enough of your posts to know that you've asked for research more than once. Tell me B3 what do you know about it?

 

[boatboatboat]

shantay1008 if i ever change jobs and start selling timeshares, I will call on you.

have your check book ready.

 

[Sammie]

I guess the other thing is, are people really being "forced" to stay in resorts (any DVC resort) that they don't like on a regular basis? Is this an actual problem at this point? Just wondering....

I don't see it as a problem. We book all the DVC resorts at 7 months or less and don't have problems.

Certainly the person that wants to book a particular resort at certain times at short notice might have problems; but that can be said for many resort destinations.

As to the future I think all buyers should do their research and make sure they buy where they would be happy to stay all the time should that ever happen.

I think the unhappiness with some SSR owners is more about poor advance planning and sour grapes. I recommend selling and moving on.

As to nonSSR owners worrying about the "big picture" I would say they are simply at a point in their lives where they have too much time on their hands.

 

[boatboatboat]

B3, you are double talking. "What do you know about research?"

Riddle me that. Unlike some who spend all day on these boards, I have a life. I am paid to know and understand research and to educate college educated individuals in the specifics of it so that they understand what is real and what is crap. I am not going to spend an hour going through all 490 of your posts that you've managed to generate in the very short time you've been here to find the # you're asking for. I've seen enough of your posts to know that you've asked for research more than once. Tell me B3 what do you know about it?

I pray you are fishing with this post.........

If this is indeed a serious reply on your part, I am at a loss for words.

take care.............