Has anyone been able to fly from Canada to the US on an American airline carrier?

sherilaine

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I just want to figure out if I am working off old information. I always thought to book a flight on an American airline you had to actually drive over the border and take a domestic flight in the US. That you cannot fly from Toronto to Orlando or Calgary to Los Angeles on United for example. The nearest airport in the United States to us here in Calgary is over 6 hours drive and we'd have to connect to get to a major center so it's pointless but I have heard of people in Vancouver driving to Seattle or Toronto driving to Buffalo and then getting much cheaper domestic flights in the U.S.

Am I off my rocker and if so are there savings I am missing out on?
 
Yes, you can fly on an American airline such as Delta or United from Canada to the U.S., however, you won't see any savings compared to Air Canada or WestJet. The savings you're hearing about from other people are when they travel from one US city to another US city. The savings people are receiving come from the lower taxes and fees in the U.S. If you fly from or to Canada, you unfortunately get stuck with our high airport fees and taxes. Non border cities like Calgary and Edmonton sadly don't have any other cheaper options.
 
Okay that is what I thought - but what I also see is anytime there is a flight from Canada into the U.S. it is affiliated with a Canadian carrier - such as Air Canada or Westjet - you are not getting a boarding pass from United Airlines at a kiosk in the Calgary or Toronto airport! Okay that makes sense - thanks!
 
One confusion I've had is reserving seats on code-shared flights.
 

One confusion I've had is reserving seats on code-shared flights.

We have flown with Westjet which have code shared flights into the U.S. and you are able to reserve your seat the same as if you were flying domestically, of course they charge you so we don't bother and just pick our seats when we check in online 24 hours in advance.
 
The last two times we've flown to or from LAX from Vancouver it has been on Alaska Airlines. We've also flown on United from YVR to San Francisco but I believe that flight was what they call a code-share as stated above (and that part still confuses me lol).
 
I flew United all the time YYZ to DEN. Also fly Delta a lot. In reality there isn't much savings anymore between Seattle/Vancouver or Toronto/Buffalo because of the dollar. Unless you want to fly Southwest. Looking at flights for SNA. Toronto is 483, Buffalo is 560. This has become extremely common and flights out of Toronto are often more convenient.
 
We fly United from London Ontario to their hub in Chicago at which point we can fly almost anywhere. Much cheaper than Canadian airlines to most destinations.
~ David
 
We fly US carriers almost exclusively from Halifax to Orlando. One tip I will give is when you are checking fares or actually purchasing seats to make sure you have selected the fares to be displayed in Canadian dollars, especially now with the dollar doing so poorly. If you use Expedia or any other service like that make sure you also have the fares set to display in Canadian dollars.
 
I flew United all the time YYZ to DEN. Also fly Delta a lot. In reality there isn't much savings anymore between Seattle/Vancouver or Toronto/Buffalo because of the dollar. Unless you want to fly Southwest. Looking at flights for SNA. Toronto is 483, Buffalo is 560 This has become extremely common and flights out of Toronto are often more convenient.

Sorry but I disagree. I live 90 minutes away from BUF and 30 minutes away from YYZ. Mainly we fly from BUF. I booked flights from BUF to MCO for March break and only paid apprx $300 CAD each. I had far more choices of flight times than from YYZ and if I were to book the same days to fly from YYZ I would have had to pay $700 CAD each.
 
Just chiming in with my 2 cents worth. Our best (cheapest) choice from YEG to MCO is on United. Period. No Canadian airline has yet to beat their usually around $500 CAD (non peak mid week) fares and I have seen them for as low as $413 CAD recently, too. The big plus for us is a connection well below the snow belt in IAH.
 
My cheapest fare is usually United ..... almost always from Halifax. In some case in past years it was cheaper to drive 9 hours to Portland Maine for a flight. I've driven 11 hours to MHT to get four people to Disney and back for $547 total, taxes in (return for all four). So .... bottom line .... you never know where the deal is.
 
I`ve flown plenty of times to MCO from YOW via United. I get a United ticket, pass through customs either in Ottawa or else in Montreal or Toronto if I have a layover within Canada.

This year, my layover is in Toronto. We fly United to Toronto and then WestJet to Orlando, which is just beyond ridiculous, but it was the most affordable flight that didn't get us in at midnight.
 
I just want to figure out if I am working off old information. I always thought to book a flight on an American airline you had to actually drive over the border and take a domestic flight in the US. That you cannot fly from Toronto to Orlando or Calgary to Los Angeles on United for example. The nearest airport in the United States to us here in Calgary is over 6 hours drive and we'd have to connect to get to a major center so it's pointless but I have heard of people in Vancouver driving to Seattle or Toronto driving to Buffalo and then getting much cheaper domestic flights in the U.S.

Am I off my rocker and if so are there savings I am missing out on?

Your information is not correct and as far as I know it has never been the case.

A flight from Canada to the US is an international flight. Flying out of the major Canadian airports on any airline will usually mean pre-clearing US Customs at the Canadian airport. Then, when that flight lands at its US destination city, it is treated similar to a domestic US flight in that it can arrive at a domestic terminal and there us no US Customs to go through -- it already went through it in Canada. This makes connections and such much easier, and iss particularly nice if you managed a direct flight.

There is no problem with flying a US carrier from a Canadian city to a US city, assuming there is actually a route there. What is currently NOT allowed by law is flying a US carrier from one Canadian city to another Canadian city, which is why there are no such available routes (the reverse is true too, no Canadian carrier can fly a route that is a US city to another US city). So American Airlines is allowed to fly Toronto to Orlando, but is not allowed to fly Toronto to Ottawa. And WestJet can fly Toronto to Orlando but not Orlando to Chicago. The airlines make partners with each other and codeshare flights to get passengers within a country between two internal cities.

Flying DIRECT is a whole other issue, as the direct routes between Canada and the US are seemingly few and far between and the bulk of them are from specific hub cities like Toronto. One often has to connect somewhere.

Also in recent years some of the US carriers have reduced their routes that go to Canada. For example, one used to be able to fly on American Airlines from Ottawa to Chicago, and then in Chicago connect to lots of AA flights. A number of years ago American canceled the Ottawa to Chicago route. Now, to fly on American from Ottawa, you will be routed on either a WestJet flight to Toronto and switch to a AA flight there, or on what used to be US Airlines (now AA) to I think it is Philly and then connect to AA flights there. For Delta out of Ottawa you fly to Detroit then change planes, or you are put on a Canadian codeshare to Toronto then connect to a Delta flight.

People sometimes find savings by crossing the border and flying out of a nearby US city for a couple reasons:

- more competition in the US domestic market means there can be considerably lower fares: e.g. Southwest sometimes has fares in the $79-$99 one way range, something you are highly unlikely to ever routinely see on a Canadian airline;

- Canada generally has MUCH higher taxes and fees on airline tickets; flying out of Ottawa the taxes and fees part of my tickets is at least $200 and is sometimes higher than the base part of the ticket; flying out of some US cities the taxes and fees can be in the low double digits, even if the base fare itself was comparable. Add that difference up across a family of several travelers and you can get substantial savings.

However that approach also has some downsides that need to be considered in the overall equation:

- the time and cost of driving to the US city (and putting enough extra time in to account for problems along the way, border crossing time, etc);

- possible overnight hotel charges on one or both ends of the trip

- weather conditions that can make such a trip risky at certain parts of the year; e.g. the nearest big US city to here is Syracuse, NY. But to get to Syracuse you drive down a stretch of upper NY state that is prone to storms coming off Lake Ontario. Making that trip in the wintertime is always a gamble -- the weather could be just fine here but a horrible blizzard along that stretch, which would be a problem if you are supposed to fly out of Syracuse - both getting there (if you could) and on what kind of delays there will be flyinf out of the airport.

- some of the nearby US cities have limited flight and airline availability, or the airline may be flying smaller regional jets (which has implications for carry-on baggage, for example)

SW
 
Okay that is what I thought - but what I also see is anytime there is a flight from Canada into the U.S. it is affiliated with a Canadian carrier - such as Air Canada or Westjet - you are not getting a boarding pass from United Airlines at a kiosk in the Calgary or Toronto airport! Okay that makes sense - thanks!

That is because the US airlines have decided not to fly from your city. See my post above re: AA canceling their route from Ottawa to Chicago. I used to regularly fly AA from Ottawa to Chicago and then connect to an AA flight to whatever city I was going to. Not possible now.

Now, if I want to fly to, say Dallas, I might end up on Air Canada to Toronto then either AC or United to Dallas (sometimes on United with a connection in a US city). When I check in in Ottawa it is with Air Canada and i get boarding passes for the entire trip. If I were to buy a ticket just from Toronto to Dallas on a United Airlines plane, I could buy it with AC in which case I would be checking in with AC (where it would be a codeshare flight), or I could buy it from United, in which case I would be checking in at the United desk. I were buy and to fly AA from Ottawa to Philly then to Dallas, I would be checking in in Ottawa at the AA desk.

SW
 
I`ve flown plenty of times to MCO from YOW via United. I get a United ticket, pass through customs either in Ottawa or else in Montreal or Toronto if I have a layover within Canada.

This year, my layover is in Toronto. We fly United to Toronto and then WestJet to Orlando, which is just beyond ridiculous, but it was the most affordable flight that didn't get us in at midnight.

You may want to check your tickets, as you won't actually be on a United airplane from a Canadian city to Toronto -- it will most likely be a codeshare flight that is operated by AIr Canada or Air Canada Jazz, who are their Canadian codeshare partners.

How did you manage to get United/AC and WestJet combined though ? THAT is a weird combo since they are competitors not partners. Also, check carefully when you check in (or even call the airline before so you know for sure): because you are traveling between non-partnered airlines your bags may not be able to be checked through all the way to MCO. I have run into that before when I traveled on an (I think it was travelocity) ticket that combined airlines that are not actually partners. I flew the first leg but then had to claim my bags and check in again at the connecting airport (and go through security all over again) for the second because the bags could not be transferred between the airlines. very annoying and time consuming and if I had known in advance I would not have booked those tickets.

YMMV.

SW
 
That is because the US airlines have decided not to fly from your city. See my post above re: AA canceling their route from Ottawa to Chicago. I used to regularly fly AA from Ottawa to Chicago and then connect to an AA flight to whatever city I was going to. Not possible now.

Now, if I want to fly to, say Dallas, I might end up on Air Canada to Toronto then either AC or United to Dallas (sometimes on United with a connection in a US city). When I check in in Ottawa it is with Air Canada and i get boarding passes for the entire trip. If I were to buy a ticket just from Toronto to Dallas on a United Airlines plane, I could buy it with AC in which case I would be checking in with AC (where it would be a codeshare flight), or I could buy it from United, in which case I would be checking in at the United desk. I were buy and to fly AA from Ottawa to Philly then to Dallas, I would be checking in in Ottawa at the AA desk.

SW

United and AA both fly out of Calgary - so I am not sure what you are talking about, I looked up flights the other day - they are no cheaper than Westjet but they do fly out of Calgary into the U.S. I guess they just don't have any deals on at the moment or it is due to the fact that because they are flying out of Canada they have to pay the same fees and taxes which make our carriers more expensive in the first place. They do have direct flights though too which is great so I guess it can't hurt to include these carriers when we are shopping around for fares. Oddly enough our fare from YYC to LAX through Westjet was a great deal at $300 this year so we are not complaining.
 
You may want to check your tickets, as you won't actually be on a United airplane from a Canadian city to Toronto -- it will most likely be a codeshare flight that is operated by AIr Canada or Air Canada Jazz, who are their Canadian codeshare partners.

How did you manage to get United/AC and WestJet combined though ? THAT is a weird combo since they are competitors not partners. Also, check carefully when you check in (or even call the airline before so you know for sure): because you are traveling between non-partnered airlines your bags may not be able to be checked through all the way to MCO. I have run into that before when I traveled on an (I think it was travelocity) ticket that combined airlines that are not actually partners. I flew the first leg but then had to claim my bags and check in again at the connecting airport (and go through security all over again) for the second because the bags could not be transferred between the airlines. very annoying and time consuming and if I had known in advance I would not have booked those tickets.

YMMV.

SW

They could have been booked as individual tickets, but WestJet does have an interline agreement with United: http://www.westjet.com/guest/en/about/airline-partners/.

We did this last summer on a flight from Ottawa to Edinburg. Tickets were booked through Air Canada, and we were on an Air Canada operated flight from YOW -> LHR, but the LHR -> EDI flight was with British Airways. Air Canada is part of Star Alliance and BA is part of One World, so they do not codeshare. But with interline agreements they still sometimes sell each other's tickets on a single reservation. Our bags were checked through and we were issued boarding passes for both flights in Ottawa.

The real irony is that at the time we booked it, the YOW -> EDI itinerary was notably cheaper than the same YOW -> LHR flight alone. Even though presumably Air Canada would have to pass part of the revenue along to BA for the sale of their ticket. Tells you something about airline marketing tactics, at least for competitive international routes.

All that said - I still second your advice to check carefully to ensure that the bags are checked through (or are claimed if they're not).
 














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