Harry Potter Book 7 *SPOILERS*

I agree, I like Mrs Weasley being so fierce to protect her child. Totally the momma bear instinct kicking in.

I do think that should have been Neville's battle, though. I guess that JKR didn't want him to kill, but I would have liked the closure of what Bella did to his parents coming full circle.
I totally disagree about Mrs. Weasley's line. Her use of profanity indicates not that she's being protective, but rather that she's out of control of her emotions. This is a fantasy book, and this single word pulls it back into the world of reality --ugly reality, at that. It stands in stark contrast to other fight scenes in which the dialogue has been often sarcastic or witty, and sometimes even mean-spirited, but never ugly. The emotion of the scene -- a woman who's lost one child, had another child scarred for life, and knows that her other children and her husband could still be lost at any moment -- could've been portrayed with class and without resorting to gutter language. It befouls a character who has always been the archetype of motherhood and patience; she doesn't look strong -- she looks desperate.

I think you're right about JKR not wanting Neville to kill -- it is in keeping with his character, though I still think it'd have been poetic justice for him to "do in" the woman who tortured his parents and essentially took away his childhood.
 
I personally love Mrs. Weasley's line. I think I did a fist pump when I read it. She's always had a temper throughout the whole series, but most of the time it's shown as her kids not wanting to tick her off. Here it shows her true protective nature and how you DON'T want to mess with her...in a good way.

I agree that the epilogue was a bit too corny. I mean, yeah, it ties up some of the loose ends, but it also leaves a LOT unanswered.

I also love at the end when EVERYONE shows back up, especially Oliver Wood, because he's my favorite character. I love Oliver!!

In the movie, I would like to see:
-the Ron/Hermione kiss
-Harry/Ginny in the room at the Burrow
-the end fight scene
Though I'm not sure how they can fit everything that happened in the book into the movie without upping the rating.
 
oh, I can finally talk about it! My DH says I can't say a single thing about the book, because my tone will give it away. I can't even tell him if I liked it or not, because he knows I prefer happy endings, and that alone will give it away!

I had to work yesterday, so I went to bed early, and got up at 2:30, and had the book, at my job by 3am. I read until 7am, when I had to work, then came home, icnored my family, and read until 1am.

Brilliant!

I had read, that in an interview JKR said after she finished one of the chapters, she just started crying, and drank an entire bottle of champaigne. I was crying so much in the Dobby dying chapter.. I have to think that was the chapter she was talking about.

My DH is reading it next. He said he would have it down in a couple weeks, but I have to say, he appears to be almost 1/2 way done, he left to room, because the kids were too noisy, and was unable to drive into town to run errands, because of the book. I think he'll be done in no time! A friend is borrowing it next, I can't wait to reread it.

I'm not sure how I feel about the epiloge. On one hand, I like knowing what will happen, on the other hand, I had to reread it, because it was written so strangely.

I also was curious what James and Lily's jobs where. I thought we were going to find that out. I was never a Snape fan, but wow, what a twist.. when his memory was revealed.

I loved it.
 
In the movie, I would like to see:
-the Ron/Hermione kiss
-Harry/Ginny in the room at the Burrow
-the end fight scene
Though I'm not sure how they can fit everything that happened in the book into the movie without upping the rating.


I'm wondering how they're going to fit it all in and make sense, too! This one will probably really be pushing the ratings. The whole Bathilda/Snake thing alone is pretty creepy. However, I still think GOF is the darkest, with the whole scene in the graveyard. That one scared me, and I'm an adult!

I'm guessing that they'll cut out a lot of the middle of the book where they're basically on the run but not geting much done. I really, really hope they keep in Harry visiting his parents grave and seeing the monument, though. I hope they keep Snape's memories true to the book, as well.

Seeing the 7 Harrys scene should be cool, too! Poor Daniel, having to shoot 7 times as many scenes for that as everyone else!

I can't imagine what the budget will be on a movie like this! We've got giants, goblins, house elves, a dragon, TONS of changes of setting...
 

My DH is reading it next. He said he would have it down in a couple weeks, but I have to say, he appears to be almost 1/2 way done, he left to room, because the kids were too noisy, and was unable to drive into town to run errands, because of the book. I think he'll be done in no time! A friend is borrowing it next, I can't wait to reread it.

I'm not sure how I feel about the epiloge. On one hand, I like knowing what will happen, on the other hand, I had to reread it, because it was written so strangely.


This one really sucks you in, huh? I can't imagine how some people are managing to spend more than a few days reading it! Once I got going, it was so crazy that I had to keep reading to find out what happened!

I think the epilogue feels weird becuase she wrote it quite a while ago. I really wish it had been done better! I think it's the only part of the book I didn't like much.

I also feel like she rushed through the last few chapters. Maybe in a rush to finally have it over? The last few seem to be where things got a bit confusing, logic got a little fuzzy, etc.
 
Everyone's had such great thoughts and imput about the book - thanks so much for taking the time to share.

I'm really sad that the series is over, I hope that JK Rowling will publish something else to do with Hogwarts, I know that in times past she has mentioned doing another charity book. There's still questions that I want answered, LOL, and I don't think she'll do that, especially not before her tour this fall.

I think that the reason James, Lily, Lupin and Sirius were the ones that were by Harry when he used the stone was because they were people that he was extremely close to, and all played a parental role to him (meaning Lupin and Sirius here, not James and Lily, obviously), I think it would have been great if Snape was there also, but I may have too much Star Wars on the brain.

Personally, I don't watch the movies, so I can't contribute to those discussing what they are looking forward to seeing.
 
I totally disagree about Mrs. Weasley's line. Her use of profanity indicates not that she's being protective, but rather that she's out of control of her emotions. This is a fantasy book, and this single word pulls it back into the world of reality --ugly reality, at that. It stands in stark contrast to other fight scenes in which the dialogue has been often sarcastic or witty, and sometimes even mean-spirited, but never ugly. The emotion of the scene -- a woman who's lost one child, had another child scarred for life, and knows that her other children and her husband could still be lost at any moment -- could've been portrayed with class and without resorting to gutter language. It befouls a character who has always been the archetype of motherhood and patience; she doesn't look strong -- she looks desperate.

I have to agree. I was quite surprised by the line. Not because of the swearing, but because it seemed very out of character for Mrs Weasly and also very muggle - so not only out of character for Mrs Weasly, but really for the whole wizarding world basically. I felt the same way about Ron "effing" everything....where did that come from? Again very "our" world, not theirs.
 
I loved the epilogue! I loved that Harry got what he wanted, not fame as a auror or headmaster, but a family of his own. The only time I cried while reading it was when I read Albus's middle name! And alot of people have posted about Teddy being another orphan child. But he wasn't like Harry, or Tom Riddle, he grew up with love. I'm sure his grandmother would want to raise him, since she lost her husband and daughter, but Harry was allowed to be in his life as well. I loved that Kreacher came around, and that the Malfoys, while not good, weren't "evil".
 
I totally disagree about Mrs. Weasley's line. Her use of profanity indicates not that she's being protective, but rather that she's out of control of her emotions. This is a fantasy book, and this single word pulls it back into the world of reality --ugly reality, at that. It stands in stark contrast to other fight scenes in which the dialogue has been often sarcastic or witty, and sometimes even mean-spirited, but never ugly. The emotion of the scene -- a woman who's lost one child, had another child scarred for life, and knows that her other children and her husband could still be lost at any moment -- could've been portrayed with class and without resorting to gutter language. It befouls a character who has always been the archetype of motherhood and patience; she doesn't look strong -- she looks desperate.

I think you're right about JKR not wanting Neville to kill -- it is in keeping with his character, though I still think it'd have been poetic justice for him to "do in" the woman who tortured his parents and essentially took away his childhood.

I still disagree with you completely since I happen to love that moment...but I can see where you're coming from.

And maybe it's just me but I think desperation in a moment like that seems more real than trying to be classy about it. You're talking about a woman who has murdered and tortured many innocent people and would do it again without a second thought...if she were threatening my child AND taunting me about the death of another I would have screamed at her a lot worse than Mrs.Weasley did.
 
I had read, that in an interview JKR said after she finished one of the chapters, she just started crying, and drank an entire bottle of champaigne. I was crying so much in the Dobby dying chapter.. I have to think that was the chapter she was talking about.

My guess would be Chapter 33 - The Prince's Tale.
 
I am utterly mourning. I feel like wearing all black to work tomorrow in honor of Snape's death. When he said, "Always," I sobbed like a baby (of course I'd been reading for 10 hours straight and was quite delirious at the time).

And poor Dobby!

I'm just so sad it's over!:sad1: :sad1:
 
I'm of two minds about Mrs. Weasley's use of profanity. While it was not necessary, I do not think it's uncommon for people in high stress situations to swear. It would seeme to me that if one had just lost a child in that kind of situation, you would be emotionally unstable...so perhaps the loss of decorum is not unexpected. However, the debate about Mrs. Weasley's use of profanity echoed a larger issue I felt as I read the book. It seemed like JKR couldn't decide if she was writing a book for children or for adults. The overall tone of the novel was very dark and more befitting an adult fantasy novel, but there were parts that were written more for an audience of children. I've felt this was a problem in the last few books, more than in any of the early books.

As it was a childrens' novel, I was pretty sure that the main trio would live. It seemed unlikely that she would have killed any of them. I am a little surprised that she opted to kill off both Lupin and Tonks - I'm with those that said Tonks' first responsibility should have been to stay with her child. On a whole, Tonks' and Lupin's death did feel "thrown" in there.

The epilogue was a little corny, mostly because it was set so far into the future, with everything neatly put together, but that is befitting a childrens' novel. I would have also liked a little more post-battle and pre-epilogue writing, but perhaps it would have just made the ending seem dragged out. I could have done with out the future epilogue and been happy with an epilogue about them saying good-bye to their friends and moving forward with their lives.

The only think I was a little dissapointed was that trio opted not to go back to school for their 7th year. I understand for sake of the story that they couldn't be in school during the year, but as this is a childrens book it was sad to see that finishing one's education isn't important. Just a comment by one of they indicating that they would go back after defeating Voldemort or something along those lines would have been nice.

On a total different note, I read in a review of the new movie that Book 5 (Order of the Phoenix) was considered the weakest of the books. Is that true? Do people really think that book five was that bad? I like five, because it finally felt like things were moving forward. I would have thought the weakest was book 4 (Goblet of Fire) - mostly because it seemed to drag on and on.

Overall, the series was fun, but it didn't feel all that well planned to me. There was so much unnecessary stuff early on and then the 'everything-and-the-kitchen-sink" feeling in books 5 through 7. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the books didn't feel well-paced. I think that book 5 through 7 should have been spread out more and books 1 through 4 condensed and some stuff trimmed.
 
I'm glad I found this thread!!

I loved the epilogue. But I would have liked more after the battle and before the epilogue.
I think there has to be another story so we know where the kids were sorted!!

I'm just not ready for them to be over!
 
I was disappointed that there was no epilogue for Luna. Neville was included, why not Luna? Also, I wished we could have had a little bit of a story for all of the secondary characters, like the Weasleys (especially after Fred's death), the Hogwarts professors, and even the Dursleys. Also, did Hermione ever go to Australia to rescue her parents and bring back their memories? There were a number of loose ends that I wish would have been tied up, but I'm just one of those details-obsessed people...:rolleyes1

I felt the same way. I loved the book, but I wanted to know more at the end. My only complaint about the epilogue was that it needed to give more information. The cheesier the better.

I was most upset by Dobby's death followed by Fred. I was so glad Hagrid didn't die. I knew Snape wasn't bad (though he was often a big mean jerk at times.) I got all teary eyed when the headmaster portraits were cheering for him. I will probably need to read the book again to pick up all the things I missed.

Does anyone else know how Neville got the Gryfindor sword the Goblin had run off with?
 
Just finished...

I'm so glad that it did end the way that it did, but there's also that sense of lose, as well. It's like losing a friend that you've known for so many years.

Was anyone else really upset about Hedgwig? (Haven't read the whole post- sorry if this was addressed!). It just seemed so... abrupt?


Yes. I think that is the death that saddened me the most. :(
Followed by Dobby.

I just finished the book and am still trying to process everything.
I loved the book. Feel so sad that it is all over. I almost cried at the midnight party Friday realizing this would be the last time.
 
Does anyone else know how Neville got the Gryfindor sword the Goblin had run off with?

"Only a true Gryffindor could pull that out of the hat."

No matter what the goblin thought, the sword belonged to Gryffindor.
 
The Gryfindor sword comes to those who are loyal to Gryfindor and are true Gryfindors when in need.


While it would have been nice for the three to return to Hogwarts for their 7th year, it would have been impossible. Ron may have been able to return, but Hermione was Muggle-born therefore not allowed, and Harry had a price on his head.

I cried when Hedwig died and when Dobby died. I expected a Weasley to die and other members of the Order. I did not expect Hedwig and Dobby and was totally caught off guard. :sad1:

Loved the book and I am already re-reading the book.
 
I finished a couple of hours ago and loved the book. I thought the epilogue was brilliant. It did put a definite end to the story without killing Harry off. I hated Fred getting kill but in a time of war you know out of 6 brothers 1 would probably die. It would have been too tidy had it been Percy

Very well done.

They better hurry up and get this movie done. Some of the actors and actresses are getting up there in age. My favorite teacher has always been McGonagall. I was glad to see her in the end. I was kind of surprised that Mr Weasley didn't play a bigger role but loved the , "NOT MY DAUGHTER YOU #@!@" line from Mrs W.
 







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