Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince!

[oogieboogie]

To answer whomever asked, Harry is full-blooded. Both parents were magical.

Actually, Harry is considered half-blood, because his mother came from muggle parents. Remember, Dumbledore said to Harry, Voldemort chose to mark Harry, a half-blood like him.

Neville is pure-blood. Both his parents came from wizard families. Neville's grandmother is a witch. Neville can't be the HBP.

I had never thought of Hagrid, but there was never any mention of his father being a wizard (his mother was the giant half). But Hagrid did attend Hogwarts until the unfortunate Riddle incident, so he is magical. Of course, so is Hermione, and she has 2 muggle parents.

Hagrid is half wizard, half giant - so he could be considered a half-blood. Hermione is a mudblood - if she were too marry a wizard, then her kids would be half-bloods. (JMO)

Still wonder about Draco's role. I don't think he's the HBP, but do think something big happens with him.

Draco definitely is pureblood. Both his parents come from a long line of pure bloods.

I agree that Neville will play a bigger part in upcoming books, because he could've been the boy in the prophecy. Draco will most likely slink into the background when the war erupts.

 

[Maleficent13]

Originally posted by oogieboogie
Actually, Harry is considered half-blood, because his mother came from muggle parents. Remember, Dumbledore said to Harry, Voldemort chose to mark Harry, a half-blood like him.

Ahh. I was trying to figure out what he was. Thanks for refreshing my memory.

 

[Michelemouse]

I think the Half-Blood Prince may turn out to be Dudley. There have been a lot of hints that Aunt Petunia knows much more about the wizarding world that she has let on. Could be interesting if Dudley is actually part wizard.

 

[stinkerbelle]

Originally posted by Michelemouse
I think the Half-Blood Prince may turn out to be Dudley. There have been a lot of hints that Aunt Petunia knows much more about the wizarding world that she has let on. Could be interesting if Dudley is actually part wizard.

verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry interesting!

but why was he never choosen to attend Hogwarts then?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

omg...we're going to guess a thousand people who could be the HBP before that book comes out!

 

[jeleebeene]

I think it would be funny if Dudley did turn out to be the half blood prince - but I don't see how.

If Aunt Petunia is from a muggle family and from what I gather, Vernon is complete muggle, Dudley can't be a half blood - correct? Though I could just imagine the look on Vernon's face - ooh, and Aunt Marge would have a fit!!!

DH and I are taking a short trip to Nashville again this weekend, so this will give us plenty of time to discuss who we think it may turn out to be.

I still love hearing reviews of POA - my initial review was that like most. I was so irked by some things missing (the quidditch match, more about the firebolt, more indepth information on the Marauder's Map etc) but overall, I love the movie. SS and COS were shorter books, and while for the most part the movies followed the books, there were minor things left out of those. I try to understand the reasoning behind the length of this film and hope that some things will be covered more in GOF.

Someone mentioned not understanding why Ron was to apologize to Hermione - even though I read the book and knew, a friend of mine had never read the book and it never crossed her mind. The reason, she said, was because of the accusation Ron put on Hermione that Crookshanks killed Scabbers - and when Scabbers turned up to be alive, she was waiting for an apology since he was obviously wrong.

Also, someone mentioned that they were upset that it didn't tell why Snape disliked Harry so much - I thought this was discussed in depth in OOTP?? I am rereading POA right now, but I don't remember great detail about the reason Snape disliked James and Harry so much. I kept asking DH and he would tell me "You'll find out when you read OOTP, just be patient, unless you want me to spoil it for you". Since I now know, it is easier to understand the way he treats Harry, even though I still find it unfair!!

 

[wvrevy]

That was actually me on both counts, jeleebean

1st, I actually did know why Ron was apologizing. My point was that the spat between Ron and Hermione was such a minor little thing in the movie, as opposed to in the book when it was anything but miinor.

2nd, I forgot about the Firebolt ! Was kinda like they just threw that in there at the end...That's another part of the fight between Ron and Hermione that never happened.

3rd, the seeds for Snapes dislike were actually sewn in this book, when it's shown that Harry's father, Sirius, and Pettigrew used to "babysit" (wolf-sit ?) Lupin when he would turn into a werewolf. What actually caused Snapes hatred of Harry and Harry's father's friends was...

SPOILER IF YOU HAVEN'T READ Order of the Phoenix

...the fact that Sirius set Snape up, telling him how to get past the whomping willow when, if Harry's dad hadn't stopped him, he'd have come upon Lupin in werewolf form. But since they didn't even mention the fact that Harry's father was an animagus, much less that he became one to keep his friend company, that "foreshadowing" of the enventual feud between Snape and James Potter never happened in this movie.

I don't know...I've seen quite a few people say that they enjoyed it more the second time around, so maybe that's what I need to do. I was just SOOOO disappointed this time...and SOOO worried about what they were going to do with the next one, which is (in my opinion) going to be the toughest one to make shorter than about 4 hours. There is SO much action in Goblet of Fire, and none of it is without it's purpose, really. I could almost see them making two movies out of it, to be honest. Better that than another hatchet job.

JMHO...

 

[Maleficent13]

Spoiler if you haven't read OotP:


Is it me, or did I dream it, but aren't there scenes in OotP with James being cruel to Severus, and Lily defending him? And Snapes hates Lily defending him because she's a mudblood? Shades of Hermione and Draco?

I've only read OotP once; this proves I'm due for a re-read...

 

[wvrevy]

Originally posted by Maleficent13
Spoiler if you haven't read OotP:


Is it me, or did I dream it, but aren't there scenes in OotP with James being cruel to Severus, and Lily defending him? And Snapes hates Lily defending him because she's a mudblood? Shades of Hermione and Draco?

I've only read OotP once; this proves I'm due for a re-read...

No you didn't dream it James and Sirius are having a little fun with Snivelus when Lily comes along. She tries to help, he insults her, and James makes him pay for it...

Sorry...I've read the book 3 times already SERIOUS Harry Potter addict, here

 

[oogieboogie]

Originally posted by wvrevy
No you didn't dream it James and Sirius are having a little fun with Snivelus when Lily comes along. She tries to help, he insults her, and James makes him pay for it...

Sorry...I've read the book 3 times already SERIOUS Harry Potter addict, here

Actually, Sirius was bored, and James being the popular kid around, decides to have some fun by dangling Snape upside down. Lily tries to stop them, but gets insulted by Snape so she leaves. James says that he torments Snape just for existing.

(I just got done re-reading 5 so it's still stuck in my head)

 

[jeleebeene]

Thanks wvrevy - since it has been a few months since I read POA, I was a little shady and just wanted to make sure I had some facts straight - the rest is just cause of poor memory on my part.

I remember about James teasing Snape in front of Lily - showing off in my opinion. He and Sirius were just partners in crime - knew some like them in school. That is what made me really understand his hatred for them and Harry - completely forgot about the Whomping Willow part - guess that is why I am rereading the books again

I am still kind of ticked about nothing hardly being said about the Firebolt - I might not ever get over that, and that is less important that understand the Marauder's Map in my opinion, but since I know about it, I guess that is why it doesn't bother me as much. I think it would have been funny (well not really) to see the bickering between Ron and Hermione and poor Harry worrying about having the broom back intime for the Quidditch Cup - which is another bee in my bonnet that was left out. Totally missed seeing Oliver hardly at all! All he wanted to do was win the cup - they do, and it isn't even in the movie - Argggh.

Still love the movie, though, and DH is taking me to see it AGAIN this weekend - won't even divulge how many times I have seen it already. Too embarrassed

 

[Maleficent13]

Originally posted by jeleebeene
Quidditch Cup - which is another bee in my bonnet that was left out. Totally missed seeing Oliver hardly at all! All he wanted to do was win the cup - they do, and it isn't even in the movie - Argggh.

I was so looking forward to seeing Oliver in this one! Really wanted to see him win that cup! I loved his character (plus the actor who played him in SS was a hottie!).

 

[Madi100]

Originally posted by stinkerbelle
verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry interesting!

but why was he never choosen to attend Hogwarts then?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

omg...we're going to guess a thousand people who could be the HBP before that book comes out!

Now there's a game. We could try to list 100 people that could be the HBP by the time the book comes out.

 

[smilingmouse]

Am I the only one who thinks/fears that HP will die in the end.

***sPOILER FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T READ #5***

At the end of 5, Dumbledore tells Harry about the prophecy which could have applied to Harry or Neville. He goes on to say that Voldemort and Harry can't BOTH be alive.....So, I have a feeling that Harry WILL defeat Voldemort, but I think he will die in the process.......

I really wish the book would come out now.......HOW am I going to stand the wait???!!!!

SmilingMouse

 

[kathyk2]

Doesn't Harry have enough enemies without Dudley joining him at school? I hope they find a way to bring Sirius back.

 

[Tiggeroo]

Are there any hints as to when the book will be out? Obviously the july 4th date is gone.

 

[WhenUwishUponAstar]

sorry I posted twice

but this is a good place for me to warn against spoilers in my following post

 

[WhenUwishUponAstar]

Ok I've just read 4 pages of replies and I have several comments so sorry in advance if this post gets lengthy!

I found the clue the other day about the HBP title and was thrilled along with the other new info she posted on some of the other links. I've been mulling it over and I knew it couldn't be Harry Potter and Harry potter which would sorta be a lose translation if he indeed he was the half blood prince. Secondly, it can't be voldie cuz he would never be "with" him as they are the antagonist and protagonist respectfully. (Was glad to see jk confirm this)

So, I'm thinking this half blood has to be an "and" someone or something he's "with" and since this is 6 not 7 and voldie ain't going down HBP isn't going to be the one to get voldie. (IMHO) But whoever or whatever the prince might be I think HBP plays a large part in getting it done in the end. (duh) lol

In answer to the speculation that Harry dies ......I don't think so because that would mean voldie gets to rule the world and we can't have that! UNLESS Harry some how sacrifices himself for the "good” of the world and lives on in "infamy" as the boy who saved the world etc etc. (going on he's the one that LIVES)

DD pointed out very clearly that prophecy said voldie would "MARK" the "one" as his equal. Also addressing why the "one" can't be Neville.

I'm also kinda thinking about the "half blood reference" we are assuming that means not pure blood wizarding family however England is a very "royal" society. What if JK means half blood as in half royal not half muggle?Which points to a new character or an old one that has hidden thier title. (ie: Hagrid cuz his mom was a regent in the court, could have been sitting in for her son).

The theory on hagrid is also good cuz he says several times that he and Harry are a lot alike.....could be foreshadowing or just a way to ground Harry in the mist of all of the extraordinary things he's accomplished. I'm not completely sold on this one but am willing to consider it. In the event that that theory is "rubbish" then......

I'm also reminded of the SS when for no reason Seamus Finnigan very proudly announces that he's half muggle. She references chambers as being very closely linked to book 6 so that is why I’m not too sturdy on this theory but it did cross my mind.

Dean Thomas also comes to mind going off of the things JK mentions about him on her site...

I'm going to have to go back and read chamber of secrets again.....I'm sure there is a clue or 20 that I haven't found. lol
I'm not really sold on any of these ideas. Those were to easy it's got to be harder!!

In reference to the things left out of this movie that were considered key......ie the map and who the makers were etc. I've heard on different sites that some of that was left for the next movie (shrugs) I'm not sure if it's true......but if it is, I'm a lot more pleased with this movie than at first glance.

Also for those wondering if IMAX is worth it...... I am telling you YES! I've seen it imax and regular and then had a free chance to see it again and chose Imax and paid the differnece. It's just a whole other movie , can't explain it.

 

[2BigKIdz]

Random thoughts... sorry, long post

Harry would be a pure blood even though his mother came from a muggle family, she was still a witch, so both parents were magical.

I think the half blood prince will be someone new to the series. I hope it comes out soon. It would be great if they could get all of the films made while the original kids are able to do them.

I got the impression that Snape had the hots for Harry's mom, which was another reason for him to hate Harry's dad, not that James didn't give him enough reason by picking on him. Snape's a great character, and Rickman does a great job of portraying him.

I think Draco is going to turn out to be a good guy. He has so much pressure on him from his father to be evil, but I think underneath he is jealous of Harry's goodness. Never thought about him being attracted to Hermione. I think she and Ron will end up getting married.

I was really disappointed in POA movie. It just was not as "magical" to me. I missed a lot of the scenes that were in the first two, like Halloween and Christmas. The only way we knew the seasons changed in this movie was the willow. It's been awhile since I read the book, so maybe it was true to it, but I always like seeing the end of year speech by Dumbledore. I didn't like that they changed the coloring either, the first 2 had blue hues and this movie was so neutral, just felt like a different Hogwarts. I also felt like it jumped from scene to scene, that there really wasn't a flow to the movie, just a collection of scenes. I can without a doubt say it was not the best of the franchise. I've only seen it once so maybe I need to reserve judgment until I see it again. I didn't dislike the movie totally, just disappointed.

 

[stinkerbelle]

Originally posted by 2BigKIdz
I didn't like that they changed the coloring either, the first 2 had blue hues and this movie was so neutral, just felt like a different Hogwarts.

Well - it WAS a darker book...only right for the movie to follow the book.

and from what I was told...they couldn't get the same castle for this 3rd movie...that's why it took a while to get used to. (couldn't get the castle? seriously - how much money is the HP series worth?)

 

[leahannpen]

Just a thought on the HBP... So, if you don't want to know, don't read any further...

But...

On some threads on Harry Potter web sites there is a rumor that is highly supported that the HBP is Godric Gryffindor, due to the fact that Book 2, Chamber of Secrets has alot to do with Book 6, per JKR. The Half Blood Prince WAS supposed to be the name of Chamber of Secrets, but she decided it would be a better title for book 6. And one of the biggest plots was in the Chamber and Harry getting the sword, and Dumbledore stating only a true Gryffindor could have pulled the sword out of the hat....

Although, now that I think abou it... a big charactor in book 2 was Gilderoy... and he was back in OoTP... is he half blood?

Hmmmm, lots to ponder....