Hands up on ToT?

[ftballfan7]

You thought wrong. Some people want the picture no matter what. But, they should at least be able to see themselves. Everyone on that ride should be able to see themselves on the photo. The front rows don't have a right to dictate that. People are just too selfish. Keep your hands out of my face or I will move them myself.

Probably wouldn't end well for you.

 

[maxiesmom]

That's not how Photoshop works.

If you remove an arm image, all you have left is a "hole" where the arm
used to be (which needs to be "painted in" with parts of another area of the image.

Think of it as cutting the arms out of a paper photo with scissors,
then plugging the holes with something else.

If the intent is to see a face hidden behind the arm, there is no face
to see, even after the arm is "painted out."

Seeing the arms is not the problem.
The problem is NOT seeing the faces.


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I must be watching to many tv shows where they make it seem like not a big deal to retouch photos or take out an awkward hand in the face. Top Model has led me astray!

 

[MrRob]

People like you need a reality check because you obviously don't care about anyone but yourself.

I literally laughed at this. Here I am, saying that I ride rides a certain way, without at any point implying that others should ride a certain way for my sake. Then there you are, telling people that they should change the way they ride just for you or your kids sake, and you think I'M the selfish one? That's hilarious.

You're telling people they shouldn't do something they enjoy, solely for your benefit. Think about it for a second.

It's not just about a picture. What if I want to look out as the doors open? Or better yet, my son? You're blocking our view and you just don't give a ____.

Then I don't know... LOOK OUT THE DOORS. These are arms dude, not giant signs people are holding up and waving. Go ahead and try it. Stop typing your reply for a second and hold out both arms in front of you and up. How much of your field of view is blocked? Unless you're abusing steroids and have tree trunk arms, I'm going to point out that like 1/6th of your FOV is taken up by the arms, if even that much.

To imply that your whole view is blocked by a pair of raised arms, or that a blocking of that little of your FOV is detrimental to your experience is melodramatic. End of story.

People who rage against people who enjoy themselves on rides by raising their arms is akin to people who hush a whole theater at the movies when the audience cheers or claps as the hero does something particularly awesome. That person comes off as a major buzzkill who takes things waaaay too seriously.

 

[msjprincess]

This! ^
I'm not sure why anyone thinks that raising their hands over their heads increases "air time?"
To me, it cheapens the effect of the experience, reducing it to the level of a Six Flags wooden coaster. Sure, it's a thrill ride. But, that doesn't excuse the "it's all about ME and MY enjoyment - screw anyone who doesn't like it" attitude.

You're kidding, right?

You thought wrong. Some people want the picture no matter what. But, they should at least be able to see themselves. Everyone on that ride should be able to see themselves on the photo. The front rows don't have a right to dictate that. People are just too selfish. Keep your hands out of my face or I will move them myself.

Good luck with that


This is one of the most bizarre threads I have read. I always thought the point of going on rides was to enjoy the ride.

 

[goofyernmost]

hands up everytime. and i've just discovered if you life your legs on the way down, it feels like your free falling....fun stuff

See...the only time I have had a free falling experience I ended up unable to walk without assistance for about 6 months. Actually I still have some minor problems because of it, so the "feeling" of free falling is not exactly an emotion that I seek out.

As a side note...when I questioned the reason for raising hands I was not really caring if people did it or not, but reading these replies it turns out that it isn't really needed. Just not holding onto anything will accomplish the same thing, so I guess it's just more of mimic gesture. I now understand what people are trying to achieve, but I cannot say that I am in agreement with how to go about that. Again though, I don't care if you put your hands up, if that's your thing go for it. I do think it is silly though.

 

[mom2rtk]

I must be watching to many tv shows where they make it seem like not a big deal to retouch photos or take out an awkward hand in the face. Top Model has led me astray!

You would need another photo of the person involved to replace it with. You know..... one where they look like they are freefalling down an elevator shaft. They can do that in wedding photos because they probably have countless other similar shots of the person involved.

 

[maxiesmom]

This is one of the most bizarre threads I have read. I always thought the point of going on rides was to enjoy the ride.

Maybe Disney needs to have separate queues--Photo Op and Non-Photo Op. So those who want to sit as still as statues can go in one line, and those who want to wave their hands in the air can go in the other.

 

[EPCOTatNight]

I literally laughed at this. Here I am, saying that I ride rides a certain way, without at any point implying that others should ride a certain way for my sake. Then there you are, telling people that they should change the way they ride just for you or your kids sake, and you think I'M the selfish one? That's hilarious.

You're telling people they shouldn't do something they enjoy, solely for your benefit. Think about it for a second.
So, you're saying that if I enjoy something, then do it without thought of anyone else? I'm not talking about illegal things. What if I enjoy burping and farting consistently while you stand behind me in line? Should I be able to do it because I enjoy it? Or what if my vocabulary and/or sense of humor involves profanity and lewd comments? I guess by your logic, I should just say forget the kids and other people.


Then I don't know... LOOK OUT THE DOORS. These are arms dude, not giant signs people are holding up and waving. Go ahead and try it. Stop typing your reply for a second and hold out both arms in front of you and up. How much of your field of view is blocked? Unless you're abusing steroids and have tree trunk arms, I'm going to point out that like 1/6th of your FOV is taken up by the arms, if even that much.

To imply that your whole view is blocked by a pair of raised arms, or that a blocking of that little of your FOV is detrimental to your experience is melodramatic. End of story.

People who rage against people who enjoy themselves on rides by raising their arms is akin to people who hush a whole theater at the movies when the audience cheers or claps as the hero does something particularly awesome.What about the people who use their phone? I guess the light from it and/ or their talking is ok with you, right? That person comes off as a major buzzkill who takes things waaaay too seriously.

Detrimental? Rage? Who's really being melodramatic? Anyway, I won't debate you any longer. Peace be with you brother.

 

[MrRob]

This is one of the most bizarre threads I have read. I always thought the point of going on rides was to enjoy the ride.

Whoa whoa there buddy, rides at WDW aren't for enjoying. Enjoyment is for those low brows over at six flags. At WDW you are to quietly sit through every ride and not express your emotions so as to not potentially "ruin it" for others.

That way everyone will be able to purchase a clear photograph of themselves sitting tamely on the ride.

I'll let the misunderstanding slide this time.

/s

 

[mom2rtk]

If this is an issue now, I hate to see what it will be like when more people have Photopass Plus and all their ride photos are prepaid.

 

[MrRob]

Rage? Who's really being melodramatic?

You apparently if you're actually willing to try and move another persons arms on a ride.

Also your cell phone analogy doesn't work at all. Checking your phone isn't relevent to the film. Cheering is, just as raising your arms is relevent to going on a thrill ride. They're both reactions to indicate that you're having a good time.

Since you didn't actually debate the cheering or my arguments about selfishness (instead you just tried to deflect it with a strange hypothetical. BTW as someone who doesn't need people to act a certain way to enjoy myself, the answer is no, I wouldn't mind people burping or cursing. They're just sounds.) I'm going to just assume you realized how dramatic your issue is with people who raise their hands and had a change of heart. Good to know!

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

I am multilingual and also have quite an amazing voice, if I do say so myself. As such, anytime I am on It's A Small World, I enjoy singing along with the dolls as loudly as possible. It's how I have my fun. I sing along with the little can-can dancers in French, I like to sing it in Arabic as I pass by Cleopatra, I sing it in Spanish as I pass the flamenco dancers, you get the idea. If I don't know the language, I like to sing something that I think sounds like their language. It's always great fun. Do you think that I might be a bother to other people?





Thought we needed to lighten the mood a bit and take the focus away from people who will physically put their hands on others and people who insist that they will do whatever they like, whenever they like, and everyone else can just handle it.

 

[brookmey]

If this is an issue now, I hate to see what it will be like when more people have Photopass Plus and all their ride photos are prepaid.

I was thinking the same thing as I was reading the thread. At first getting the photo was about having a fun keepsake of the ride. Now it's going to be all about "I have to get the perfect photo because I paid for it, so everyone else on the ride needs to think about that."

Honestly, since when did ride photos become so important that it turns into an argument like this thread?

Every summer for about 10 years some college friends and I went to Cedar Point. Our number 1 goal on the roller coasters was the thrill, not the photo. If we got a funny picture out of it (1 year we did), then we'd buy it. If not, then no big deal and we'd move on. There were times when there was a good shot of the 4 of us, but the people in front of us had their hands up, blocking our faces. I think that's just a chance you take when you are on a thrill ride. Getting the perfect photo of the 4 of us was never the goal. Maximum thrill on the ride was. Until I joined the Disboards, I had no idea that there are people out there who appear to care more about the perfect ride photo than the thrill of the ride. I'm still confused about that.

If you want the perfect photo on a thrill ride, then you have to make that happen by asking to be placed in the front seat. You can't expect everyone around you to either know when the picture will be taken or remember that it's coming and put their hands down.

 

[Alesia]

As I said before, I don't raise my arms on rides, but I do understand that raising one's arms on a thrill ride is standard behavior. So is screaming, but I'm sure there will be a thread next week complaining that all of those people screaming on the Rock 'n' Rollercoaster disturbed their enjoyment of hearing "Love in an Elevator."

 

[goofy4tink]

This! ^
I'm not sure why anyone thinks that raising their hands over their heads increases "air time?"
To me, it cheapens the effect of the experience, reducing it to the level of a Six Flags wooden coaster. Sure, it's a thrill ride. But, that doesn't excuse the "it's all about ME and MY enjoyment - screw anyone who doesn't like it" attitude.

Well, I'm not going so far as to say it 'cheapens the experience'. I'm not at all sure why raising one's arms on ToT makes it more like a Six Flags coaster, but you're entitled to your opinion. I will continue to look around me, if I'm seated in front of someone. If it's a child behind me, then my arms will go just to my shoulders. It still achieves the purpose of getting as much out of the experience as raising my arms all the way up. I have been known to actually ask if someone minds my arms going up...most people say no, have at it!!! But, if my keeping my arms down, at shoulder height, allows a family to get a good photo, then that's fine with me.
And I do the same on EE, Dinosaur and TT....all photos that can have those behind me obscurred by my raised arms.

As I said before, I don't raise my arms on rides, but I do understand that raising one's arms on a thrill ride is standard behavior. So is screaming, but I'm sure there will be a thread next week complaining that all of those people screaming on the Rock 'n' Rollercoaster disturbed their enjoyment of hearing "Love in an Elevator."

Oh dear God...have you ever been on ToT when as soon as the doors start to close the teenaged girls start screaming???? Drives me nuts. Constant screeching, from start to finish. I mean, I understand screaming when the car drops, or heads up suddenly. But, really??? As soon as the doors close??? Or when they first open onto the first scene???
I haven't yet had the experience of screaming being so bad that I had a bad time on RnRC. And I do sing 'It's a Small World' when on Space Mt....yeah, there's a story there. I really doubt that is bothering anyone in front of me...they're way too busy screaming themselves!!!

 

[SenecaWolf]

My only concern on ToT ...for the love of God please make sure you are wearing some good deodorant if your going to be raising your arms around! lol

8 hour old park pits on a 90° day isnt something I look forward to smelling

 

[PetLoopers]

I am multilingual and also have quite an amazing voice, if I do say so myself. As such, anytime I am on It's A Small World, I enjoy singing along with the dolls as loudly as possible. It's how I have my fun. I sing along with the little can-can dancers in French, I like to sing it in Arabic as I pass by Cleopatra, I sing it in Spanish as I pass the flamenco dancers, you get the idea. If I don't know the language, I like to sing something that I think sounds like their language. It's always great fun. Do you think that I might be a bother to other people?

If you do that when I'm on the ride, I will physically shut your mouth.

And let's be real about the idea of physically moving someone's hands out of the way. That statement has already escalated the tension in this thread. Imagine how it would escalate in person. Is that the example you want to show your kids?

Little Suzie's diary:

"Dear diary, today a man on Tower of Terror put his hands up during the ride. My daddy didn't like that because he wanted our picture so he pushed the man's hands. I screamed and daddy got into a fight. I cried when the police man shot my daddy with wires and made daddy flop around on the ground like a fish. Mommy says all our money was spent on bail and we have to go home. Mommy and daddy aren't talking to each other. What's a divorce?"

Or, she can write this:

"Dear diary, today me and daddy rode Tower of Terror 5 times until we got a good picture of us on the ride. It was the best day of my life. I love my daddy."

You pick.

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

If you do that when I'm on the ride, I will physically shut your mouth.

And let's be real about the idea of physically moving someone's hands out of the way. That statement has already escalated the tension in this thread. Imagine how it would escalate in person. Is that the example you want to show your kids?

Little Suzie's diary:

"Dear diary, today a man on Tower of Terror put his hands up during the ride. My daddy didn't like that because he wanted our picture so he pushed the man's hands. I screamed and daddy got into a fight. I cried when the police man shot my daddy with wires and made daddy flop around on the ground like a fish. Mommy says all our money was spent on bail and we have to go home. Mommy and daddy aren't talking to each other. What's a divorce?"

Or, she can write this:

"Dear diary, today me and daddy rode Tower of Terror 5 times until we got a good picture of us on the ride. It was the best day of my life. I love my daddy."

You pick.

Well I know sign language, so your physical assault on my mouth will not keep my hands from singing. I will make sure to wear bracelets with bells on them for my next trip!

 

[goofy4tink]

If you do that when I'm on the ride, I will physically shut your mouth.

And let's be real about the idea of physically moving someone's hands out of the way. That statement has already escalated the tension in this thread. Imagine how it would escalate in person. Is that the example you want to show your kids?

Little Suzie's diary:

"Dear diary, today a man on Tower of Terror put his hands up during the ride. My daddy didn't like that because he wanted our picture so he pushed the man's hands. I screamed and daddy got into a fight. I cried when the police man shot my daddy with wires and made daddy flop around on the ground like a fish. Mommy says all our money was spent on bail and we have to go home. Mommy and daddy aren't talking to each other. What's a divorce?"

Or, she can write this:

"Dear diary, today me and daddy rode Tower of Terror 5 times until we got a good picture of us on the ride. It was the best day of my life. I love my daddy."

You pick.

While I'm sure the 'smilie' is supposed to take away the brunt of what you said, it still smacks of violence...same as everyone else.

And the 'lucky, happy child' who's daddy made them ride 5 times to get the perfect photo??? Do you really think that anyone is going to spend that much time getting the 'perfect photo'??? Seriously??? Average of 20 mins in line, at least???
Then again, perhaps the kiddos are good enough actors that they can easily recreate the stunned looks they had on that first ride!!!

Is it so hard to just look around you and see what is there??? And then perhaps not put your hands right in front of someone's face??? It's not just a photo you're messing up....sometimes it's the view for those behind you. It's always so nice to see just a forest of arms in front of you vs the view of DHS.

 

[ftballfan7]

Sometimes people are so busy trying to capture special moments in photos or videos that they forget to actually live the moments. This is a general statement not specific to this conversation. My advice, take it or leave it: Spend less time worrying about wether the perfect picture is being taken or taking the perfect picture and enjoy life as you live it. Memories may sometimes fade quicker than photos, but their value is much greater.