Hand scanning for park entrance ? start date

[disney4evr]

safetymom,

I see you are back again, from probably another wonderful trip to the World, even though it was for business. How was your trip? You didn't stay at CBR this time? How was the place you stayed at and would you stay there again? This probably is not the place for this post but I was looking around here and saw you response.

When I was there in May I saw a couple try to come back in from the Boardwalk through the International Gateway in Epcot and they were denied entrance. The CM stated that they could not reenter the park more than once. I thought if you had a park hopper pass you could hop from park to park to park and back to the same park again.

 

[iluvdisnee]

I dont think it matters in your case, if your unused days you didnt have your fingers scanned than there is no scan on file associated with your tickets. If they are just regular park hoppers there shouldnt be any names linked with it either.

Originally posted by janasshe
apparently they plan to scan your hand/finger the first time you use the pass - what i really need to know is if and when this is coming in!!

 

[Lewisc]

GoldenOldie--Thanks for the good (and accurate) information.

I don't think there is any such rule BUT if the couple didn't complain I'd suspect ticket abuse. Could be the person didn't have their hand stamped, an exception was made and then a second re-entry (also with an unstamped hand) was attempted.

Originally posted by disney4evr
When I was there in May I saw a couple try to come back in from the Boardwalk through the International Gateway in Epcot and they were denied entrance. The CM stated that they could not reenter the park more than once. I thought if you had a park hopper pass you could hop from park to park to park and back to the same park again.

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

Gail please re-read my OP. At no time did I say STAMP. I also stated what type of passes we were using. I did not say that all types of passes are scanned, but that they have the capability and a very effective deterrent to purchasing on Auctions. SCANNING is the correct term for the bio readings conducted at the entry gates is it not?

I did read your OP and it made no sense, that is why I asked you to clarify. They don't use the scanners for anything other than the passes I mentioned. And, if they started to use scanners for other passes than previously mentioned, everyone that had a pass like that would have been required to have a baseline bio reading done and each and everytime you used your pass you would have had to put your fingers into the bio reader before your pass came out.

As Golden Oldie stated, read about it on Deb's website, she provided the link and you will see your Military Passes are not among those that need to be have your bio readings done.
All passes go through the little slot and are scanned, if that what you are talking about, and I am surprised if only a few of you needed to insert the tickets, all are supposed to.

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

When I was there in May I saw a couple try to come back in from the Boardwalk through the International Gateway in Epcot and they were denied entrance. The CM stated that they could not reenter the park more than once. I thought if you had a park hopper pass you could hop from park to park to park and back to the same park again.

You sure can, but, are you sure they had hoppers and not one day tickets that do not allow park hopping and they came from another park?

 

[caitycaity]

I have never had my hand stamp checked when I park hopped.

i've actually been stopped and asked to put my hand under the light so they could check it many times. it happens.

 

[jjohns]

For the past while we've held APs. When exiting one park, I have *never* bothered with the hand stamp - I didn't think I needed to. (i even vaguely recall reading somewhere that a stamp was required for re-entry *with* a Hopper pass, so I figured that meant *only* with a Hopper pass).

Have I been doing this 'wrong' all this time? I have never been challenged at a second park to produce a hand with a stamp.

In the case of the AP/PAP, with the biometric finger scan (assuming that biometric scanner serves an actual function, and isn't simply a pacifier like a crosswalk button ), I would figure WDW already has pretty good way to ensure the pass *user* is also the pass *owner*.

Do I need to start getting the hand stamps when I exit?

TIA, Jeff

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

Originally posted by jjohns
For the past while we've held APs. When exiting one park, I have *never* bothered with the hand stamp - I didn't think I needed to. (i even vaguely recall reading somewhere that a stamp was required for re-entry *with* a Hopper pass, so I figured that meant *only* with a Hopper pass).

Have I been doing this 'wrong' all this time? I have never been challenged at a second park to produce a hand with a stamp.

In the case of the AP/PAP, with the biometric finger scan (assuming that biometric scanner serves an actual function, and isn't simply a pacifier like a crosswalk button ), I would figure WDW already has pretty good way to ensure the pass *user* is also the pass *owner*.

Do I need to start getting the hand stamps when I exit?

TIA, Jeff

Nope you do not have to, I just do it, just in case. Dumb probably but, sometimes excess is best.

 

[CarolA]

I only get my hand stamped when it looks like it will make the CM happy. I figure my AP lets me go anywhere and I have an ID in case they want to verify.

I have NEVER gotten in when my AP did not work without having to show my ID.

Also, they are circumstances where they check hand stamps VERY carefully. I saw them basically deny entracne to some teenagers some of whom did not have hand stamps. According to the story, the kids had come into the park and realized they left something in the car and gone back out. The CM was not buying and was getting a manager. I could tell she thought that one group had come in with the passes and a few of the group had left to get the rest of thier friends and re-use the tickets. (It was a little strange that they were all suppose to have left together, but only a few of them got hand stamps!)

As for buying a ticket on EBAY. NO MATTER WHAT I would NOT do it. You have NO assurance that the ticket is actually not all used and there has been at least one poster who indicated that when they got to Disney all that was left on their ticket were the plus options! Not worth the risk!!!! Disney would do nothing to help the OP since she had purchased thur EBAY. If you lose the ticket or something else happens you have no way to recover if you do this EBAY method. If you lose a regular ticket and you can give Disney some info I have had them reprint a ticket. (I lost my MVMCP last year)b

 

[phamton]

I am confused here. Why are you selling your tickets before you even go?

Originally posted by janasshe

I have recently heard that disney will be finger scanning all guests with passes - does anyone know when this is starting - we travel to orlando in early July and were hoping to sell on our tickets unused days on ebay.

We have a 10 day unlimited admissions pass - do you think it would apply to this?

And then later you said:

I dont want to loose my ratings on ebay or to sell someone something they cant use! My auction is closing in a day or so - probably have to withdraw from selling unless i can get a definate yes or no soon!

Something seems fishy here.

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

Originally posted by phamton
I am confused here. Why are you selling your tickets before you even go?

Originally posted by janasshe

And then later you said:


Something seems fishy here.

You think?

 

[C.Ann]

Although I have recently been having a ball selling various items on Ebay so I can make a trip to Disney World in December, I think Ebay should ban the selling of these tickets entirely!!

Too many people have been ripped off with unuseable tickets and although I realize it is a "buyer beware" situation, I feel really bad for the people who can't afford to get them any other way and then get bogus tickets..

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

C.Ann,
Ebay does ban it, but, it is not regularly policed.
I find it amazing that people actually pay more than the ticket is worth.

 

[skiwee1]

Originally posted by Luv2Roam
There has been times where the scan didn't work on AP's for DH and I. We have never had to show ID.

Us either. The scan never works for my mom with her AP so they just wave her on! We have never gotten a handstamp with hoppers either and no one has ever known. I remember hopping to two parks a day for 6 days before even remembering that I should have gotten my handstamp. I then approached a CM and told him. He laughed and said getting a handstamp doesn't affect your hopper. It is just a deterrant from people sharing their tickets.

 

[LIFERBABE]

I was there last week and we purchased the $99 Military Salute Hopper Passes (5 days expire on 12/13/03).

These passes did indeed prompt the finger bio scan. We fed our tickets through and the finger scan prompted the CM to check for our bio. The first time we used the passes, 6 out of 10 of us were bio scanned. The second day all of our passes required bio scans. All passes were inserted at the turnstile for entry.

The Bio Scan I am referring to required us to insert our fingers and it was not always accurate at which point the CM asked to see ID.

Everyone in our party was required to to have the finger scan by the second use of the pass. I asked the CM why some of us weren't scanned the first day and was told that it may let you pass with first use but by second use the system has updated.

If the Military Passes didnt require bio scans it would have made our week alot less harried at the gate.

I know Im not imagining placing my fingers in the bio scan all last week, and I have the receipt to prove what kind of passes we purchased.

If nothing else, this thread shows how inconsistent the entry system is and as I stated earlier, depending on who's standing at that turnstile, or whether the bio is turned on, or if you have on a red shirt, Disney is brilliant in their unpredictability and the only way to guarantee a worry-free entry is to have your own pass and I.D. and possibly a stamp if it makes you feel better.

 

[Niagara2]

I would estimate that the finger scan has not worked for me about 30% of the time. I have never been asked for ID but as a family of 4 goes through with the same name, which shows up to be read by gate CM, they wave me through. I would think If I was alone or not with family I would of been asked for ID. I rarely get a handstamp with an AP as I figure if they have a question on my AP I have ID to back it up, but have never needed the ID yet.

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

Originally posted by LIFERBABE
I was there last week and we purchased the $99 Military Salute Hopper Passes (5 days expire on 12/13/03).

These passes did indeed prompt the finger bio scan. We fed our tickets through and the finger scan prompted the CM to check for our bio. The first time we used the passes, 6 out of 10 of us were bio scanned. The second day all of our passes required bio scans. All passes were inserted at the turnstile for entry.

The Bio Scan I am referring to required us to insert our fingers and it was not always accurate at which point the CM asked to see ID.

Everyone in our party was required to to have the finger scan by the second use of the pass. I asked the CM why some of us weren't scanned the first day and was told that it may let you pass with first use but by second use the system has updated.

If the Military Passes didnt require bio scans it would have made our week alot less harried at the gate.

I know Im not imagining placing my fingers in the bio scan all last week, and I have the receipt to prove what kind of passes we purchased.

If nothing else, this thread shows how inconsistent the entry system is and as I stated earlier, depending on who's standing at that turnstile, or whether the bio is turned on, or if you have on a red shirt, Disney is brilliant in their unpredictability and the only way to guarantee a worry-free entry is to have your own pass and I.D. and possibly a stamp if it makes you feel better.

Thank you for clearing this up, it makes sense now.
The bio is always turned on, the trick is to get it to work 100% for 100% of the people. Changes in fingers, wearing a ring that was not there before, and a variety of other factors cause them to not function 100% of the time.

Disney is brilliant in their unpredictability and the only way to guarantee a worry-free entry is to have your own pass and I.D. and possibly a stamp if it makes you feel better.

With that I completely agree!!!!! There is a method to their seeming madness.

 

[MaryJ]

My AP doesn't work much of the time. Last March, I was searching in my fanny pack for my driver's license and pulled out my room key by mistake. My name was on the room key since I made the reservation, and the CM said that was fine and waved me through.

 

[NomadFamily]

I bought my 10 Day World Passes through Paramount. If one is lost, what should I do? I read on here that Disney will not help you if you buy your passes on Ebay. What about if you buy them through a company like Paramount. I have made copies of the passes and my 16 year old son and his friend will be off on their own with their passes and I just anticipate a pass getting lost (like his new $200 cell phone got lost last week!! UGH). Am I out of luck if they lose a pass?

 

[jjohns]

Its the passes themselves that have a transaction number printed on them. This is the incredibly helpful piece of information.

I left one of our passes (AP) at a FP machine and didn't realize for a couple hours (at the next FP machine, actually!).

Went back to the previous FP machine - no luck. Ended up having to go to Guest Services in the park. I had made copies of the back of the passes, but had oh-so-cleverly left that in the room . Disney was still able to find my purchase by using the transaction number on the other three passes I had - they verified a bit about me like name, address and looked at some photo id. Then they issued a replacement pass for me.

They did tell me at that point that if I lost the *replacement*, it would be much harder to find the transaction - since the tran # on the replacement pass was no longer in sequence with the other three.

Moral:
1) Disney can do magic to help its guests out.
2) Make good clear copies of the passes, so the trn # on the back is legible... And have this with you in a different spot than the passes! (In your case, make two copies - so you can carry one and your son & friend can carry one).
3) Carry photo id.
4) Speak to a CM as soon as you realize the passes are missing - they are there to help!

HTH, Jeff