kritter and Princess said:
...from Kristan: Oooh some great valentines day ideas...I like the ones about putting words down on paper...That is so romantic..and something I have never done before.....
.....SJC and Crash,
Have fun on your crusies and we want a full report when you return..
SJC, we will give you and crash a full report of the posts so you can catch up when you return and not have to read through a million pages when you return...
Crash and Sjc(my new short name for you). I am envious. I truly hope you both a have a wonderful time. Cruising anywhere, anytime is magical in it self. I agree a spa treatment is heavenly. Who doesn't like to be pampered. I'm sure that the trip will provide some romantic options on board.
From Princess Olivia: .... Valentines day..here are some of the things I have done successfully in the past. Coach watch and one year a beautiful TAG watch. I gave gift cert for a couples massage at a local spa. I write, so I've written things for them that I know are still kept even from long ago. I've bought myself something cute to wear which in turn can be a present. I've sent cookie grams to work. Honestly, I think that truthful heartfelt words make the best gift. We don't always say what we feel to those we love; but we should because even though you assume they know it already they may not and hearing your best friend /love of your life tell you how they feel about you is my favorite gift to give and get (oh and a new spring Coach bag would be nice too )...
You know what...
I really do like the idea of writing a little love letter for my spouse. Princess.... your commentary above (in
BLUE) was really very very beautifully written... thank YOU for the wonderfully presented suggestions!!!! So now... Since most of my postings are so very long winded... my spouse can confirm that I can be a bit of a motor mouth wind bag sometimes (OK - most of the time)... and so on... I'll have to say this idea has huge merit and sounds like romantic fun. As for the wine idea.... my spouse and I are real "stick in the mud" sorts. We don't drink, smoke, cuss, or experiment with narcotics. OK... well, maybe we do cuss every once in a while when the moment is appropriately extreme.

SO - the liquor thing doesn't "play" for us.
AND... on the Spa idea... I would really like to do that as the last time we did so was on a HAL cruise with beach cabanna massages. Oh... did I misspell Cananna? Oh well... as I wuz saying... the last couples massage we did was about THREE years ago... and we had to do it one at a time since our daughter was about 1.5 and needed a parents' care since HAL had no infant care resources. OH YEAH... and after that beach cabanna massage I was lightly coated with massage oil AND while trying to change our toddler into a swimsuit SHE SLIPPED OUT OF MY HANDS!!!!

Yup, I dropped the baby cuz I was covered in massage oil and she was covered in suntan lotion. She landed in the sand from MY seated position on a lounge chair. It was NOT very relaxing that morning after the nice massage ... and while returning to the ship my dear spouse was commenting to others that her husband just dropped the baby... and some folks commented that I still looked like I was in shock... and I certainly FELT like I was still in shock!!!
SO.... on setting up a couples massage... I suspect the routine would be similar (we go tag team style) since our younger daughter of 2 years age is not very agreeable about going to anyone as a care providing subsitute. SO we would have to get massages one at a time. BUT I suspect my spouse would probably prefer that "I" give her the massage as I do a decent job most of the time at home (and my prices are "right") - so she really does not go out much to get spa massages often. Plus we have one of those massage chairs at home - which do a fair job in a fairly basic way... so we sort of use the combination of amature dad (me) and the electric chair (I couldn't resist referring to it that way!)... so the combination of these things is our routine for massages at our house hold. In fact, our 4.75 year old sees her Daddy massaging Mommy enough that she sometimes offers to perform massages for Mommy and Daddy to get in on the action. It was just last night that she got a pillow out and was WALKING on Mommys back plus she gave a pretty lenghty routine on her lower back and neck by hand. She actually worked on Mom for almost 20-25 mintues!
So... I am not certain a massage is best as Alicia can be pretty critical if it is not done well enough given that we're paying.

And she will (as usual) compare it against the "free" husband in concert with the "free" electric chair. Oh yeah, the only massage she really liked in the last 10 years (other than from me) was from a highly recommended professional in Hawaii. But he's in Hawaii and not where we live OR on the boat.
SO... on the Coach bag/TAG watch, jewelry proposal. I sort of gave her several nice watches and some decent jewelry in the last dozen years... and she ALMOST NEVER WEARS ANY OF THE NICE STUFF I get her.

All she wears everyday is a fairly plain and very non-descript Gucci watch I picked up on that HAL cruise 3 years ago OR a Mickey Mouse watch I gave her for her birthday 2 years ago. The Gucci has a square tungston carbide bezel so it does not scratch easily and serves well as a bang resistant water proof watch. And the Mickey (or Minnie) watch has a huge plastic hand covering the crystal so it is also resistant to scratching. So... a new watch or jewelry is probably not too high on my list ... especially since achieving any wow effect would probably cost too much considering how little use it is likely to get. And on the Coach bag thing... I just got in the mail today a Tumi shoulder tote for her... but it is really not a super romantic Valentines day thing. It was supposed to be a travel freshener for her.
And she does not do chocolates... and she likes flowers but then she complains that they sort of die quickly. And yet she buys her own flowers half the time? And as for other ideas.... I WUZ thinking of getting her a Williams and Sonoma cooking class thing. I've done that before but it is not very romantic. And then on the nice stuff to wear... I have begun to think... is this for her or for... me?

Or so that is the sort of reaction I get in a semi-silent sort of way. I got her several things to wear last year and it went over OK... but not quite as I expected.

The only stuff that gets use is the conservative stuff to wear... and that's sort of OK. All the rest got put away and I've never seen them again since. So, I'll not be getting any "things to wear" this year.
So... I think I'm back to the card thing.

Which is a really good idea. I'll even have a couple of days on the ship to work on it. And now that I'm thinking about it... I think I'll get our kids involved with it. That will add a nice touch. And it will not cost much!
And closing thoughts...
PRINCESS, I just got some very sad news about someone very very close to us who was just diagnosed with Altzheimers Disease... and the thought still shakes me sadly in the chest/heart... but I wanted to say that
reading your comments on the thoughts and nature of a Valentines love letter were especially meaningful to me tonight. As before I came to the DIS tonight I was musing with my spouse over the bad news and saying that life can be tragic and very very short sometimes. We need to refocus on things that mean the MOST to us... including each other. And so on.... you know what I mean? It's been a sort of somber and tragic evening tonight for us... sorry for the sad thoughts... I don't have anyone else to vent with for the moment - and this is probably "healthy" for me somehow.
At any rate,
Kristen , you were kind enough to offer a thread summary on our return ~ thus sparing us the need to review almost certainly
100+ missed postings ... well...
I'd like to reaffirm that I LOOK FORWARD to catching up on ELEVEN+ WHOLE DAYS of missed postings. It's just that I'm not too likely to respond to anything vthat might accumulate while we're gone. But it has always been fun to "LURK" and follow the fun thoughts and banter of the various things weaving in and out on our little thread here.
SO - with that behind us... I'll shift to promise you all that I'll post a BRIEF cruise commentary on what Carnival does on the Spirit now-a-days when we return! We sail on Sunday but have not settled on whether we'll run down Saturday or Sunday morning. We're set to return in MAY to meet out of town family (from Boston) in San Diego + I've "worked" SD once a month or so for about 10 years... so the vacation appeal of the town is mixed. It IS a fun town (SD)... but we can do with or without it this time around since we'll be retunring to hook up with our family from Boston in May.
OK... enough of this wind bag reply. I've found most of this reply to be pretty relaxing... and I could use a little unwinding tonight.
TTFN,

