Guest response to FP+ has been "overwhelmingly positive"

[TDC Nala]

If you've been around long enough you know that they do everything by "guest request."

Why did you close Pleasure Island? Guest request. They wanted something family friendly.

Why did you remove the chicken skewers at 'Ohana? Guest request. They like the wings better.

What the heck is with American Idol? Guest request. People like the show, and they wanted more interactive attractions.

Why did you change Alien Encounter to that awful Stitch thing? Guest request. People's kids were too scared, and they wanted to see Disney characters.

anytime you ask why they made a change they are going to say "guest request." Even if that is not the whole story. If you ask guests "how would you like to be able to book your FP's in advance" who isn't going to say "No thanks." Of course they wont' tell you that their idea is to let you do it, but to take away the old system entirely and limit how many you can get.

My concern is, how many FP's will be left in the peak summer months after the 1st 3 are used?

Of course there isn't any way to know this until the peak summer months. It's a totally new system. Didn't you have a trip in peak summer, but you can't cancel it, so you're stuck using a new system that you can't anticipate yet? That is frustrating. But it really has not been a terrible awful system to use as far as I'm concerned. Maybe I don't tour the way you are used to touring though.

 

[sonofanarchy]

Well gee.....it seems to be the general reaction to people we know and have talked you............surveys can be tilted, but it seems survey after survey is saying most approve of the new system.

Add to that the fact I noted about the people here are the one most tuned into maximizing the old system where the new FP+ makes it easier to folks that was not so WDW smart (assuming the do their homework as most realize needs to be done)

I would ask how you or anyone else know I am wrong?

AKK

I don't. That's sort of the point. Nobody knows either way for sure, unless you're privy to Disney marketing information. Do "the people you know" out number the people on this board? I don't know that many people, let alone that many people who could care less what happens in WDW.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

If you've been around long enough you know that they do everything by "guest request."

Why did you close Pleasure Island? Guest request. They wanted something family friendly.

Why did you remove the chicken skewers at 'Ohana? Guest request. They like the wings better.

What the heck is with American Idol? Guest request. People like the show, and they wanted more interactive attractions.

Why did you change Alien Encounter to that awful Stitch thing? Guest request. People's kids were too scared, and they wanted to see Disney characters.

anytime you ask why they made a change they are going to say "guest request." Even if that is not the whole story. If you ask guests "how would you like to be able to book your FP's in advance" who isn't going to say "No thanks." Of course they wont' tell you that their idea is to let you do it, but to take away the old system entirely and limit how many you can get.

Facts of the WDW game!

AKK

 

[sanapunk]

Well gee.....it seems to be the general reaction to people we know and have talked you............surveys can be tilted, but it seems survey after survey is saying most approve of the new system.

Add to that the fact I noted about the people here are the one most tuned into maximizing the old system where the new FP+ makes it easier to folks that was not so WDW smart (assuming the do their homework as most realize needs to be done)

I would ask how you or anyone else know I am wrong?

AKK

the people are still uneducated. I overheard people in stand by saying you could only get one FP.

 

[ML_LovesDisney]

Not sure where the joke is in the article. I'm guessing though that you don't like fastpass+ (or at least the idea of it if you have never used it).

We had a blast with fastpass+. Have used it twice and love it.

Same here, we loved it as well! Look forward to using it again in July. It is so relaxing to not have to rush to the park, and know I already have my FastPasses lined up for the headliners I want to ride

 

[SuperRob]

This is what I was asking for all along - Just make it like the old system but have FP tied to your MagicBand. Essentially, that's what they've done. My concern is, how many FP's will be left in the peak summer months after the 1st 3 are used?

FP+ is pretty much the old system, with the added benefit of booking your first three in advance now. This is largely why I don't understand the complaining. You can still walk up to a kiosk (ANY kiosk) and get a FP for a ride, even showing up day-of. But new and/or popular rides will be gone quickly, just as always.

I would expect that there will be plenty of Fastpasses left for rides after you use your first three, depending on the ride. TSMM will be a tough get, but it was before, too.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

I don't. That's sort of the point. Nobody knows either way for sure, unless you're privy to Disney marketing information. Do "the people you know" out number the people on this board? I don't know that many people, let alone that many people who could care less what happens in WDW.

My major point is that by their own admissions, the people that was against FP+ the most are because it severely changed their touring and reduced the number of fp's they could get and use.

ADD to the my other points, the surveys and that the newspaper in question is very anti WDW, leads support my opinion as stated.

AKK

 

[sonofanarchy]

FP+ is pretty much the old system, with the added benefit of booking your first three in advance now.

Yeah, but that's not a "benefit" to everybody.

 

[sanapunk]

This is what I was asking for all along - Just make it like the old system but have FP tied to your MagicBand. Essentially, that's what they've done. My concern is, how many FP's will be left in the peak summer months after the 1st 3 are used?

it probably won't be much different from legacy peak summer; if you slept in you weren't riding jack anyway.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

the people are still uneducated. I overheard people in stand by saying you could only get one FP.

I am not sure I can totally agree with you on that. They survey people after the trips, they would be fairly well educated at that point.

However you are right some would not be educated.

AKK

 

[sonofanarchy]

I am not sure I can totally agree with you on that. They survey people after the trips, they would be fairly well educated at that point.

However you are right some would not be educated.

AKK

They survey people in the parks too.

 

[jade1]

Again, if things were so beloved, why did they make changes "per guest request"?

That's exactly what is good about the design of this system.

 

[TDC Nala]

Yeah, but that's not a "benefit" to everybody.

I think it's a benefit. I do know there are those who would prefer to have absolutely nothing booked in advance, they just want to show up and do whatever moves them.

You can still do that, but your choices will be somewhat more limited now. Another frustration if that was your preference.

Yes, there are problems. the IT is a huge problem. something this size has got to work and not give people the impression that all their carefully made FPs have just been lost completely.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Yeah, but that's not a "benefit" to everybody.

Thank You for proving my point. The ones non benefiting are those that cannot maximize there FP as with the old system.


AKK

 

[jade1]

My concern is, how many FP's will be left in the peak summer months after the 1st 3 are used?

Fewer than slower months-just like FP-

 

[sonofanarchy]

Thank You for proving my point. The ones non benefiting are those that cannot maximize there FP as with the old system.


AKK

That's kind of common sense.

It's more than just that though. I don't want to plan every second of my day out. Of course, we have an itinerary to go along with our ADR's. But on days when we don't have any ADR's, it was always nice to just be spontaneous once in a while and get on whatever bus came first. And yes, you can still do that, but you won't be able to enjoy the park as much as you would before.

 

[kyomagi]

you know what they say, only the whiners come to online forums to complain, nobody posts about a positive time

 

[SuperRob]

Yeah, but that's not a "benefit" to everybody.

Everyone CAN benefit. If you choose not to, that's up to you. It doesn't HAVE to benefit everybody.

Remember, legacy Fastpass was being used by a MINORITY of guests. It arguably didn't benefit everyone either. Fastpass use is up 40% since FP+ as added, with far more guests able to benefit from it. I get that some people feel it's a diminished experience, but they likely aren't part of that 40%.

Also, Disney is holding back FP selections until day-of, so you don't HAVE to book in advance if you don't want to. You could walk in and use FastPass just like you always did if you wanted to. Just expect to have to race to get whatever passes are available, just like the "old days".

I don't want to plan every second of my day out. Of course, we have an itinerary to go along with our ADR's. But on days when we don't have any ADR's, it was always nice to just be spontaneous once in a while and get on whatever bus came first. And yes, you can still do that, but you won't be able to enjoy the park as much as you would before.

You absolutely CAN still do this. In fact, I plan everything out so that we have MORE options when we get to the parks about how spontaneous we want to be (or even if we don't feel like going to the parks at all).

I said it in another thread ... planning isn't a burden, and its not something that takes away spontaneity. Planning is what ENABLES spontaneity. You have more options planning ahead than you do if you wait until the last minute. That's both at Disney or anywhere.

 

[surferdave]

lol, Tom's easily overwhelmed. Kinda like the system today.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

That's kind of common sense.

It's more than just that though. I don't want to plan every second of my day out. Of course, we have an itinerary to go along with our ADR's. But on days when we don't have any ADR's, it was always nice to just be spontaneous once in a while and get on whatever bus came first. And yes, you can still do that, but you won't be able to enjoy the park as much as you would before.

Point taken!

But the bottom line is still that the article may very well not be wrong. I fully believe there is a very much higher percentage of guests who like the new system then is reflected by the dis'ers on the boards.

AKK