Gripe - Food in the Parks

[Sammie]

there's no ill will in that post. a grain of truth, yes.

Ok, read it then and misinterpreted your intent.

 

[DMRick]

I can't believe people are cooking in the resort rooms. Isn't this a really stupid way to start a fire?

The real shock to me, was when I wrote to Disney, and they said appliances (I specifically asked about a toaster and slow cooker) it was OK, as long as you unplugged it when you left (not what I had been told in the past). That was not the stance they took before, but this CM said yep, it's OK. This is often a very hot topic on the boards. I still say that's why it would be good for Disney to write the "rules" on your check-in sheet..since what they say they allow (this week anyway) and what they don't..well who could guess. For instance, we stayed in a hotel a couple weeks ago, and it was clear there was no smoking anywhere inside the hotel..it was written on the form they gave you...along with the cost they added to your bill if you did.

 

[Sylvester McBean]

I'm just curious..have you lived in Florida over 35 years, and this is what it was like before the theme parks came? I assume you wouldn't be a recent transplant, because it sounds like you don't like it as it is now.

the title of this thread is 'Gripe-Food in the Parks'. I'm unsubscribing because it's become convoluted. I'm not here to debate some grandmother in new york about our jobs or tax benefits. my dad once told me not to argue with senior citizens, no matter what you know, they always 'think' they know more. let them be.

 

[C.Ann]

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That's your own personal preference that you choose to eat inside the parks -your personal choice that you don't mind paying triple or quadruple prices for "okay" food - and that you prefer not to cook in your hotel room.. But that's all it is - your personal choices..

I can't believe people are cooking in the resort rooms. Isn't this a really stupid way to start a fire?

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Yes - there are some people that cook in their hotel rooms.. I don't happen to be one of them, was just pointing out that the poster mentioned "not wanting to cook".. And yes - I do believe it's a fire hazard..

My point was that the posters personal choices have no bearing (nor should they) on how other people choose to vacation, choose to spend their money or whether she feels that other people can't "afford" it simply because they make different choices in regards to what they feel is a good value for their money and what isn't..

 

[C.Ann]

the title of this thread is 'Gripe-Food in the Parks'. I'm unsubscribing because it's become convoluted. I'm not here to debate some grandmother in new york about our jobs or tax benefits. my dad once told me not to argue with senior citizens, no matter what you know, they always 'think' they know more. let them be.

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Senior citizen????? Obviously you have never met DMRick..

 

[DMRick]

I'm not here to debate some grandmother in new york about our jobs or tax benefits. my dad once told me not to argue with senior citizens, no matter what you know, they always 'think' they know more. let them be.

Aha..the question has been answered. You are a tourist, overfilling the schools LOL. I assume your dad also told you to never argue with your bread and butter . I'm proud of being a grandmother that lives her life to the fullest... that retired at 53, just so I can vacation often in Florida (and off to Ireland on Monday!). If you're thinking I'm some slow little old lady, you have the wrong person.

You brought up the tourists (of which it turns out you were one, until you moved there and added to the over crowded situation (according to you) and the tax base, and the filled schools (with tourists ??? ) all the other off topic stuff, and when you were done insulting those of us who come to your state with our bucks, you try to pass the blame of the thread being convoluted onto others. Most "real" Floridians are glad to have us, or so they say.

 

[Sylvester McBean]

and you bit on my line....

I never said the school are crowded with tourists. tourism in florida and the desire of people wanting to relocate to a warmer climate has resulted in a population boom parts of the state can't keep up with. yes, I was once a tourist. no denying that. but you so elegantly demonstrated my pet peeve...

"and when you were done insulting those of us who come to your state with our bucks"

when you're in Ireland monday make sure you preach to them how they couldn't afford to live there if it wasn't for the ugly american tourists. I'm sure that'll go over well.

once again, you are not my 'bread and butter' as you so quaintly put it in a 1920's kind of way.

 

[momof2inPA]

I have a similar complaint. When we go to DW we rent a stroller for my daughter. Quite often when we get to a popular ride all the stroller parking is taken-up by people that have brought there own stroller in the park to save some money. I feel that since I rented my stroller from Disney I should not have to park farther away or wait for these CHEAP people to finish the ride and move their stroller. Stroller parking near the entrance and exit of the rides should be only for Disney Strollers.

That is a fantastic analogy.

I feel that if you pay admission, you are paying for access to the counter service tables, not a character meal or a sit-down restaurant spot, although I've brought in food to Chef's de France for my kids, who have food allergies while DH and I ordered from the menu.

 

[DMRick]

I knew you'd be back.

My son lives in Ireland, this isn't oru first trip. They very much welcome the visitors and their money. They have a wonderful bed and breakfast trade. No worries that we'll all move over there, as there isn't property most of us could afford. However, they don't need us as much as "tourist" areas need us. Ireland is not a "tourist" area like the theme parks are. People go to Ireland for the beautiful country, not to overspend in a theme park. You are comparing apples and oranges.

Why do you keep saying that I'm saying you couldn't afford to live in Florida without our money? Are you not reading what I am writing? The bucks of all the tourists..everyone that lives outside of the theme park areas and all the other tourist areas are needed (not just Florida..all the tourist areas). As I said numerous times, if the tourists don't come to Lake George, they can't survive. If the tourists don't come to Florida, just what will all the people who work in amusement parks do to support their families? You really think if there were no tourists, Florida will be just fine? That those businesses that you said you didn't care if they closed wouldn't leave hurting people? If the tourists don't come, whether you want to believe it or not, there will be plenty of unemployment and empty hotels. Think back to 9/11 when resorts closed. If you don't think Florida (and any tourist area that needs the tourist), needs the tourism to survive, you just plain aren't thinking. No one said that you couldn't afford to live there without the tourists..but believe me there are plenty of other people less affluent than you who couldn't. Any other Floridians who think Florida would be all right if all the tourist areas closed down?

And isn't this quote yours?:

tourism to florida is what drives the population spike. that's what is making the real estate boom and the overcrowded schools.

and you bit on my line....

I never said the school are crowded with tourists. tourism in florida and the desire of people wanting to relocate to a warmer climate has resulted in a population boom parts of the state can't keep up with. yes, I was once a tourist. no denying that. but you so elegantly demonstrated my pet peeve...

"and when you were done insulting those of us who come to your state with our bucks"

when you're in Ireland monday make sure you preach to them how they couldn't afford to live there if it wasn't for the ugly american tourists. I'm sure that'll go over well.

once again, you are not my 'bread and butter' as you so quaintly put it in a 1920's kind of way.

Ugly American tourists? Boy, you are just filled with nice things to say. Thanks. I'll watch for your next personal insult.

Bread and Butter is a 1920's phrase? Geesh, and I just heard it on a modern comedy this past week. Is that supposed to be another dig at my age? As I said, I'm proud of my age, and I don't understand why you keep trying to make it out to be something nasty. There are a lot of people in their 50's on this board, and I don't think any of us appreciate you acting like we shouldn't have a say on this board because we are oldies. Won't be long til you'll be there. It happens to us all, God willing.

 

[Sylvester McBean]

all the other off topic stuff, and when you were done insulting those of us who come to your state with our bucks,

and as far as insulting other people, for you to think we couldn't live...or 'as well' as you put it is insult alone. anytime you want to come down and spend time in one of our guest rooms is fine by us. but we don't take the AARP card for discounts.

 

[DMRick]

Yet, another slam on my age. What's with you and my age?? Why is that so important to you to keep bringing it up? You've been a member of the Disboards for what, a month? At this rate, you'll catch right up to my posts, only most of yours will be about my age. Is anyone else at all interested in how old I am? Most of you know that is my grandson (not my son) in my sig..does anyone else care that I'm in my 50's?? Gosh, where is a smiley with a cane when I need one?

Reread what I wrote. I said that YOU may live as well even without the tourism, but others wouldn't fare as well. Guess you aren't thinking of others when you say you wish places would close down (I think it was stores..you know these old minds, they don't remember well). I'm glad you are living well right now..but then, those tourist spots are still open, aren't they

and as far as insulting other people, for you to think we couldn't live...or 'as well' as you put it is insult alone. anytime you want to come down and spend time in one of our guest rooms is fine by us. but we don't take the AARP card for discounts.

 

[Rafikifan]

Sorry, I have to respectfully disagree. I consider CS restaurants in Disney just like any other CS restaurant (e.g. McDonald's, Burger King) and you wouldn't be allowed to bring outside food into those restuarants!

I don't think paid admission to Disney automatically entitles you to use of the tables. Paying for food at that CS does . It doesn't have anything to do with who needs the table more, but who has a greater right to the use of the restaurant's ammenities--a paying customer or someone who just walked in off the street with a brown bag.

I totally agree with this comment!

 

[Philly81]

I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe that Disney expects me to pay extra to sit at a table that is in a public area. Would you consider someone waiting out a bit of rain to be in violation of this made up policy?

Are the tables at Cosmic Ray's public? You have to go through doors to get to them, but i dont see any signs that say "customers only".

Are the tables at the Tommorrowland Terrace public? no doors. What about the tables outside on the streeets (at the hot dog place, or outside the bakery?)
What about the tables at the little dead-end street on main street?

I can understand someones frustration at trying to find a table, but getting angry at another guest, or even worse classifying them as "cheapskates" for trying to save a few dollars is ridiculous. Anger should be at Disney for not providing enough seeting area for the people that, under their policies, are allowed to sit there.

Are you serious? Of course Disney doesn't have signs saying for "customers only". They expect adults to know that it is a business and seating is for IT'S CUSTOMERS. The tables at Tomorrowland Terrace are for their customers, the ones outside of the Plaza restaurant (which is always busy) are for theirs, etc. Not really that hard of a concept.

 

[Epcotgal]

Actually a couple of posts on topic. Amazing

p.s. If I buy a meal for my family of 5 at a cs place and there are tables available I don't care what anyone else does. However, if no tables are available and a table is being occupied by people with only brought in food they will have to leave. I'd like to believe that most would on their own anyway if it was that busy. That's just common sense.

 

[C.Ann]

the title of this thread is 'Gripe-Food in the Parks'. I'm unsubscribing because it's become convoluted. I'm not here to debate some grandmother in new york about our jobs or tax benefits. my dad once told me not to argue with senior citizens, no matter what you know, they always 'think' they know more. let them be.

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I thought you were unsubscribing to this thread? If you came back to take your foot out of your mouth - after learning that you were wrong in assuming that DMRick is a "senior" citizen - you sure didn't do a very good job of it..

Unless you were born, raised and have lived in Florida all your life, guess what?
You're not a "Floridian" - you're just another "transplant" that has contributed to all of the problems you have so eloquently pointed out..

 

[C.Ann]

Are you serious? Of course Disney doesn't have signs saying for "customers only". They expect adults to know that it is a business and seating is for IT'S CUSTOMERS. The tables at Tomorrowland Terrace are for their customers, the ones outside of the Plaza restaurant (which is always busy) are for theirs, etc. Not really that hard of a concept.

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It many not be necessary, but I have been in many tourist areas that do have signs in their outdoor eating areas stating "Tables For Patrons Only" - or "Rest Rooms For Patrons Only".. I assume the signs are there because those establishments have had problems and chose to address them.. Evidently (in terms of outside tables) Disney has chosen not to address the table shortages.. And again, the table shortages exist in Disney even when it's only the paying customers that are using them..

 

[lillygator]

Wow - look at all I missed!!

DMRick - I would love there to be less tourists in the sense I don't want any more hotels or condos built...it's become too crazy....sure there are still parts that are old Florida but not too many. We have two beasts in this state, the vactioners and the snow birds. I don't want to move, I love it here and I was born and raised here.

CAnn, did you ever get a reply? Not that it matters, WDW will probably never have an official stance - I mean we'd all be able to say we had special dietary needs right?
I'll continue to not take in a cooler, unless of course they start allowing liquor! and those who like to picnic will still be bringing one in.

 

[DMRick]

Wow - look at all I missed!!

DMRick - I would love there to be less tourists in the sense I don't want any more hotels or condos built...it's become too crazy....sure there are still parts that are old Florida but not too many. We have two beasts in this state, the vactioners and the snow birds. I don't want to move, I love it here and I was born and raised here.

And I understand this totally. However, do you want the theme parks and the resulting stores and hotels to shut down so you can go back to the way it was 35 years ago? Would it bother you, as a native Floridian (is that like a native Californian..just not too many around ?) to pay more in taxes, to support those without jobs, as well as your infratructures that are partially covered by the influx of money? For you it's a little different, because you didn't choose to move there after the fact..so it has to be harder to watch it grow. Although with the population forever expanding, where isn't it growing?

To make this related to the topic..do you think the people taking up the tables and not buying food are the northerners only..or only tourists?

 

[Debbie]

p.s. If I buy a meal for my family of 5 at a cs place and there are tables available I don't care what anyone else does. However, if no tables are available and a table is being occupied by people with only brought in food they will have to leave. I'd like to believe that most would on their own anyway if it was that busy. That's just common sense.

Ahh, some common sense, just in the quote. If it isn't affecting you, don't worry....be happy. If it is (i.e. there is no table available, speak to a CM, register your complaint, and let him/her do his/her job.)

I have another gripe. How about those people that scarf the tables hours in advance of parades/fireworks/Illuminations in all the parks. Should they be ushered along? Or. . .

Doris, have a wonderful time in Ireland! I'll miss your posts.

Oh, I just thought of another question to ponder. Just how OLD do you have to be (or is if feel?) to be a senior citizen?

 

[lillygator]

To make this related to the topic..do you think the people taking up the tables and not buying food are the northerners only..or only tourists?

actually I wouldn't be suprised if it were locals who go so much they need to save a buck here and there!!

Who knows...and I don't know if this was ever clarified but.... I haven't seen that many people with outside food taking up tables just sporadic ones and different places.....mainly when I see the coolers, they are in a stroller or tagging along with someone.

Hasn't anyone seen wagons in the park either? We see those quite a bit.

My mom and sis are over there today....only 1 cooler spotted at MK!