Grandparents Rights

[lillygator]

Which again is not what I said. The first line of my post stated that there is a difference between what is right (morally right, not legal right. I didn't think the need to point that out as most people can figure that out from context) and what is legal.

Let me spell it out for you.

It is (morally) right that loving, stable GP's be able to see their grandkids as much as can reasonably be expected given individual circumstances.

Is that better?

I would have thought that even if that sentence as I had orginally writen was unclear, that the rest of my post would have made it obvious. Guess not.

oh please....I get that you think it is a MORAL RIGHT and I understood your post, obviously you don't understand mine.....that's ok!

btw - you don't have to be so snarky.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I wonder if the grandparent was use to seeing the grandchild on a daily basis? Maybe even babysat everyday? Grandchildren is just like your own children only you have no say over things. So yes if the grandparent was involved on a daily basis I can understand why they would be upset enough to do that.

Not saying I agree or disagree with the grandparent in the above situation. Just saying I can understand why they did it.

Regardless of the circumstance, what entitles him to control his adult son's life to the degree of believing that he can prevent him from moving out of state?

What would prevent day care center workers or school teachers who have positive influences (usually) in a child's life from doing the same thing.

Obviously that won't happen b/c they aren't related to the child--but it shows how silly it is to suggest that "babysitting grandparents" suddenly "might" get to have extra-special rights just b/c they are a grandparent.

That's nutty to me and quite truthfully if a grandparent had that much of an attachment as to not be able to handle a separation of distance--I would think a psychologist would be more appropriate than an attorney.

I don't mean this to be disrespectful or arrogant--but that isn't normal and to have a court invovled to try to make it normal--undermines the parents as separate from their own parents and able to make their own adult decisions as what is appropriate for their family.

ETA: And personally--I think it is a question of morality to try and control your adult children through litigation to try and obtain what isn't yours to begin with. So morals do go both ways.

 

[S. C.]

Regardless of the circumstance, what entitles him to control his adult son's life to the degree of believing that he can prevent him from moving out of state?

What would prevent day care center workers or school teachers who have positive influences (usually) in a child's life from doing the same thing.

Obviously that won't happen b/c they aren't related to the child--but it shows how silly it is to suggest that "babysitting grandparents" suddenly "might" get to have extra-special rights just b/c they are a grandparent.

That's nutty to me and quite truthfully if a grandparent had that much of an attachment as to not be able to handle a separation of distance--I would think a psychologist would be more appropriate than an attorney.

I don't mean this to be disrespectful or arrogant--but that isn't normal and to have a court invovled to try to make it normal--undermines the parents as separate from their own parents and able to make their own adult decisions as what is appropriate for their family.

ETA: And personally--I think it is a question of morality to try and control your adult children through litigation to try and obtain what isn't yours to begin with. So morals do go both ways.

You know what, we all have our opinions. I said I could understand a grandparent feeling that way, I didn't say I agreed with it.
Do you think you could disagree without calling people silly and nutty?

I may not agree with YOUR opinion but I can respect it without calling your opinion nutty.

 

[Wishing on a star]

ETA: And personally--I think it is a question of morality to try and control your adult children through litigation to try and obtain what isn't yours to begin with. So morals do go both ways.

AMEN!!!!!

Your last 'edit' really says it all.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

You know what, we all have our opinions. I said I could understand a grandparent feeling that way, I didn't say I agreed with it.
Do you think you could disagree without calling people silly and nutty?

I may not agree with YOUR opinion but I can respect it without calling your opinion nutty.

I didn't call you nutty--I was referring to the grandparent who wanted to sue!

I am disagreeing with grandparents who believe they are so entitled to control their adult children by suing them for visitation rights to a grandchild when they want to move away.

I have not--nor do I really ever refer to anyone I disagree with as silly and nutty for their opinion.

My opening statement of my post was in regards to the grandparent and not you.

I apologize if that is how it came across--but it certainly was not what I had in my thoughts as I was posting. (hence why later I said the grandparent who felt they had to sue over a moving adult child needing to take their grandchild with them--needed a psychologist--if I meant you, I would have said you needed one. Which of course would be not only rude, but not something that would have crossed my mind to think let alone post.)

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. And it doesn't make you nutty.

 

[Beca]

We've actually had issues with that, and had to hire an attorney. As of a few years ago, in Texas, grandparents have no rights whatsoever.

 

[lillygator]

welcome to the DIS!

 

[TCPluto]

NO given grandparents rights... Period....

Back off Granny!!!!

PS: As a police officer, the OP's husband should take it upon himself to KNOW the laws in his State/jurisdiction.

Seriously?

This a civil matter, not criminal. Police deal with criminal matters.

These civil matters are not his bailiwick.

 

[Tink888]

This thread makes me feel sad. I have been blessed to have had wonderful sets of grandparents growing up. My husband's parents are deceased and my kids never knew them. My own parents are wonderful to my kids and I couldn't ever imagine them not being a part of their lives or keeping my kids away from them with the exception of physically harming or verbally abusing them. If the situation were different though, I would want the final say when it comes to my kids.

I agree with the other posters who felt that children are better off when they're surrounded by family and extended family who have loving relationships with them.

3 1/2 years ago my step-daughter and her husband lost a child to SIDS at three months. It was heartbreaking. Maybe if people realized that nothing in life is guaranteed and none of us ever know how much time we have, parents could parent and grandparents could just love and treasure their grandchildren.

My heart just goes out to grandparents who are estranged from their grandchildren and also to parents who have parents/extended family in their lives who are people they feel shouldn't be around their kids.

 

[sbell111]

Some grandparents are awesome. Some are not. This is no different than any other random person that you might come across. It is a parent's responsibility to surround his/her children with awesome examples and not the bad examples.

Grandparents don't get a free pass simply because their children had children.

 

[JoiseyMom]

I wonder if the grandparent was use to seeing the grandchild on a daily basis? Maybe even babysat everyday? Grandchildren is just like your own children only you have no say over things. So yes if the grandparent was involved on a daily basis I can understand why they would be upset enough to do that.

Not saying I agree or disagree with the grandparent in the above situation. Just saying I can understand why they did it.

It wouldn't matter, even if the family lived with the grandparents and they moved away!! If a parent gets a job they have the right to move! A grandparent even thinking about suing is selfish. If they weant to be near the kids so much then 1) tell your children don't move we will support you 2) move to be near the grandkids

Suing in my opinion is not an option. We live a few minutes from my in-laws, always have and they see the kids alot, but if we have to move, they can't and wouldn't stop us. Just means they would visit us alot where ever we move to.