Grand Floridian shouldn’t allow non hotel guests

[nuhusky123]

If these interpretations are accurate and applicable, then any DVC owner should be concerned about the general safety at any of the monorail-attached resorts, given you're saying that anyone in the world has the right to access the monorail and exit at any of the stations on the line.

I've stayed out of the back and forth on the great gingerbread house debate, but do we think unfettered access to resorts is a good idea?

Interesting point I’d not considered.

Let’s not beat around, we know some messed up people go to wdw for the wrong reasons.

So person x goes to gf to look at the gingerbread house. Then what? Strolls around the resort grounds, walks past the two pools. Is it so far off base to not be possible. I don’t think so

Does make me question ever leaving my kids alone now

 

[DisnEElove]

My response was reflective of the current situation at GF. If management changes that on Tuesday, my response won’t apply. But today, Monday, it does. After over 30 years vacationing at WDW, I’m well aware that things can change at any time.

Being a random owner doesn’t give someone a predestined right to ban others from transportation or any other place that is allowed by WDW management.

If you don’t like the situation, make your feelings known at your annual meeting.

Definitely looking forward to expressing my sentiments multiple ways. Other GFV owners should do the same since part of our dues are used for the boats and monorail. Change will come at some point. Already seeing possible changes coming with the boats.

 

[Sandisw]

If these interpretations are accurate and applicable, then any DVC owner should be concerned about the general safety at any of the monorail-attached resorts, given you're saying that anyone in the world has the right to access the monorail and exit at any of the stations on the line.

I've stayed out of the back and forth on the great gingerbread house debate, but do we think unfettered access to resorts is a good idea?

I personally don’t have an issue with it anymore than I have an issue with people visiting Disney Springs, or the parks, or any other place where the public is.

I mean would we now want to see all resorts limited to their guests? No more visiting other places for dining? Shopping?

I think we need to come to a point where we think about it in a sensible way. WDW is a vacation destination place with lots of visitors, and is Disney wants their resorts open to guests of other hotels and the general public to be able to shop and dine.

 

[eticketplease]

When did the monorail become “public transportation” ?

The land it is on is Private property and is owned and operated by the Walt Disney company

 

[eticketplease]

Definitely looking forward to expressing my sentiments multiple ways. Other GFV owners should do the same since part of our dues are used for the boats and monorail. Change will come at some point. Already seeing possible changes coming with the boats.

Don’t forget about all of the extra bus routes people are suggesting will also impact your dues.

 

[BeachClub2014]

I personally don’t have an issue with it.

Interesting. Do you also believe that anyone should be able to drive to any resort, park, and wander around at will?

 

[Sandisw]

Interesting. Do you also believe that anyone should be able to drive to any resort, park, and wander around at will?

The lots currently can’t handle that level of parking and that is why Disney limits the lots to resort guests.

But, taking Disney transportation to get there? Absolutely no issue with people being able to visit. And that is why Disney allows that.

I would never want to see resorts off limits to anyone but the guests staying there. And TBH, I don’t think most resort guests would either.

 

[eticketplease]

Interesting. Do you also believe that anyone should be able to drive to any resort, park, and wander around at will?

I know the deluxes all have security guards that you have to check in with (except HHI that has a gate with a buzzer). Not sure about the other resorts but I don’t think this is really happening

 

[Sandisw]

I do want to just add that we should keep the thread related to the issue at hand.

If people want to talk about the WDW policy of letting guests visit other resorts, then a new thread can be started for that.

 

[Sandisw]

Don’t forget about all of the extra bus routes people are suggesting will also impact your dues.

Except that the transportation that is available to get to and from the parks should be enough to handle the traffic.

If it means that certain resorts have a higher budget, then they do.

Again, WDW is a destination and one in which visiting the parks and resorts is all part of the experience…and until they decide they don’t want it that way, then things like transportation should be plentiful to support it.

 

[BeachClub2014]

Park? The lots currently can’t handle that level of parking and that is why Disney limits the lots to resort guests.

But, taking Disney transportation to get there? Absolutely no issue with people being able to visit. And that is why Disney allows that.

I would never want to see resorts off limits to anyone but the guests staying there. And TBH, I don’t think most resort guests would either.

Park? The lots currently can’t handle that level of parking and that is why Disney limits the lots to resort guests.

But, taking Disney transportation to get there? Absolutely no issue with people being able to visit. And that is why Disney allows that.

I would never want to see resorts off limits to anyone but the guests staying there. And TBH, I don’t think most resort guests would either.

I wasn't suggesting that resorts be off limits to anyone but the guests staying there. I realize that posts and thread themes often become all or nothing debates, which I didn't advocate for. I also wouldn't presume to speak on behalf of most resort guests, I'll only speak for myself.

The limited parking availability can be debated but I would bet you a Mickey Premium bar that the vehicle screening at the entrances has more to do with security than it does parking.

At any rate, put me in the column of not endorsing literally anyone to access any resort whenever they choose to do so.

 

[BeachClub2014]

I know the deluxes all have security guards that you have to check in with (except HHI that has a gate with a buzzer). Not sure about the other resorts but I don’t think this is really happening

Yes, I know and that's my point.

 

[eticketplease]

Again, WDW is a destination and one in which visiting the parks and resorts is all part of the experience…and until they decide they don’t want it that way, then things like transportation should be plentiful to support it.

I have not really experienced an issues when staying at GF but there are a lot of people in this thread that are of the opinion that transportation is lacking for GF at least.

 

[AstroBlasters]

Equal Access would INCLUDE the monorail resort stops. It is not equitable access if the public is forbidden access to those stations, as the resorts, open to the public, are ALSO final destinations for guests wanting to dine, see the resort lobbies, etc.

A tragedy of the commons….

So create a new “special bus and boat” system that is only available to GF and POLY hotel guests that is not public.

 

[GADisneyDad14]

Someone just brought up in the DVC Fan livestream that Disney is planning to use the 120 person boats for Poly and GF (most likely to accommodate the tower addition) vs the normal 38 passenger ones to/from MK. That's one step in the right direction.. Yay! I'm hoping for more updates soon.

Disney has been running the larger capacity boats in regular rotation on the GF-Poly-MK route for a couple of years now, FWIW. Situations can vary at any moment in time, but they usually alternate big boat/small boat. It doesn’t get mentioned often, but this has been a positive guest experience change for guests and visitors.

 

[Sandisw]

I wasn't suggesting that resorts be off limits to anyone but the guests staying there. I realize that posts and thread themes often become all or nothing debates, which I didn't advocate for. I also wouldn't presume to speak on behalf of most resort guests, I'll only speak for myself.

The limited parking availability can be debated but I would bet you a Mickey Premium bar that the vehicle screening at the entrances has more to do with security than it does parking.

At any rate, put me in the column of not endorsing literally anyone to access any resort whenever they choose to do so.

Well, considering not all resort prevent people from parking, I don’t know if security is the driving factor.

If the concern was people using Disney transportation such as a monorail to get to resorts and being free to roam around as a safety issue, then the only way to limit that risk is to prevent anyone but resort guests from visiting.

That’s why I said I enjoy the freedom we have to shop and dine at all the resorts in property.

 

[Sandisw]

I have not really experienced an issues when staying at GF but there are a lot of people in this thread that are of the opinion that transportation is lacking for GF at least.

I stay there regularly and have to say, other than during the holidays, it’s no better or worse than other resorts we have stayed and visited throughout the years

As I said, this time of year it’s crowded and we adjust. But I also said that I do think that Disney should provide more transportation to GF as long as they are going to encourage visiting the GBH during the holidays.

 

[DisnEElove]

Disney has been running the larger capacity boats in regular rotation on the GF-Poly-MK route for a couple of years now, FWIW. Situations can vary at any moment in time, but they usually alternate big boat/small boat. It doesn’t get mentioned often, but this has been a positive guest experience change for guests and visitors.

Interesting. Everyone we've been on has been small. But maybe soon they will use 100% large. Next trip is Christmas week, so we'll see if we get a larger boat.

 

[BeachClub2014]

Well, considering not all resort prevent people from parking, I don’t know if security is the driving factor.

Lol, you do love your all or nothing arguments, I'll give you that much. This new point also negates your earlier suggestion that they restrict vehicles because of a lack of parking.

If the concern was people using Disney transportation such as a monorail to get to resorts and being free to roam around as a safety issue, then the only way to limit that risk is to prevent anyone but resort guests from visiting

I'm fine with that. I don't think its a swell idea to let any random non Disney resort guests from wandering around resorts.

That’s why I said I enjoy the freedom we have to shop and dine at all the resorts in property.

Okay.

 

[Sandisw]

Lol, you do love your all or nothing arguments, I'll give you that much. This new point also negates your earlier suggestion that they restrict vehicles because of a lack of parking.



I'm fine with that. I don't think its a swell idea to let any random non Disney resort guests from wandering around resorts.


Okay.

Sorry it seems like I was being all or nothing but was responding to your bet to me about a Mickey bar.

Simply trying to point out that security doesn’t appear to be the driving factor when they allow you to park at some resorts…the resorts that don’t have a parking issue…those that do, like GF…do.

Since we were talking about GF, I thought you meant that resort. Guess that wasn’t clear.