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It you're talking about the thick egg noodles then I rarely eat them. I distinctly avoid them.
Rice noodles - flat or thin. And thin noodles generally are my favoured noodles.

So. There IS a big difference between those noodles and a bowl of spaghetti.
Plus I try and always add some spiral pasta in. And I don't think the Chinese are known for using that pasta.

Hence.

Big line drawn.

Just because you can imitate. Doesn't make it the same or even similar.

I am talking thick egg noodles. Rice noodles are not comparable to pasta. Egg noodles are directly comparable to spaghetti. And ignoring the shape, spiral egg noodles have also been used for chinese noodle stir fry by my family and other chinese friends in the early days of migration.
 
That ok. Did you eat them by hand or on a plate with silverwear?

No they were just wrapped up in a paper wrapper like a McDonald's Cheeseburger. This is a working class sort of food, it's a British kind of thing. I imagine that queenie would know about them. They're kind of like a calzone, but with a different filling. I think they came about in the late 19th century when there was a large working class that needed easy food and sliced bread had not yet been invented. OK, I just googled it and it dates even farther back however, it became really popular in the late 19th century as an easy "bagged lunch" for the working class.

According to Wikipedia

Despite the modern pasty's strong association with Cornwall, its exact origins are unclear. The term "pasty" is an English word for a pie, of venison or other meat, baked without a dish. Pasties have been mentioned in cookbooks throughout the ages; for example the earliest version of Le Viandier has been dated to around 1300 and contains several pasty recipes.[3] In 1393, Le Menagier De Paris contains recipes for pasté with venison, veal, beef, or mutton.[4]

Other early references to pasties include a 13th century charter which was granted by Henry III (1207–1272) to the town of Great Yarmouth. The town is bound to send to the sheriffs of Norwich every year one hundred herrings, baked in twenty four pasties, which the sheriffs are to deliver to the lord of the manor of East Carlton who is then to convey them to the King.[5] Around the same time, 13th century chronicler Matthew Paris wrote of the monks of St Albans Abbey "according to their custom, lived upon pasties of flesh-meat".[6] A total of 5,500 venison pasties were served at the installation feast of George Neville, archbishop of York and chancellor of England in 1465.[7] They were even eaten by royalty, as a letter from a baker to Henry VIII's third wife, Jane Seymour (1508–1537) confirms: "...hope this pasty reaches you in better condition than the last one..."[8] In his diaries written in the mid 17th century, Samuel Pepys makes several references to his consumption of pasties, for instance "dined at Sir W. Pen’s ... on a damned venison pasty, that stunk like a devil.",[9] but after this period the use of the word outside Cornwall declined.[10]

In contrast to its earlier place amongst the wealthy, during the 17th and 18th centuries the pasty became popular with working people in Cornwall, where tin miners and others adopted it due to its unique shape, forming a complete meal that could be carried easily and eaten without cutlery.[11][12][13] In a mine the pasty's dense, folded pastry could stay warm for several hours, and if it did get cold it could easily be warmed on a shovel over a candle.[14]

Side-crimped pasties gave rise to the suggestion that the miner might have eaten the pasty holding the thick edge of pastry, which was later discarded, thereby ensuring that his dirty fingers (possibly including traces of arsenic) did not touch food or his mouth.[15] However many old photographs show that pasties were wrapped in bags made of paper or muslin and were eaten from end-to-end;[16] according to the earliest Cornish recipe book, published in 1929, this is "the true Cornish way" to eat a pasty.[17] Another theory suggests that pasties were marked at one end with an initial and then eaten from the other end so that if not finished in one go, they could easily be reclaimed by their owners.[14]

In 2006, a researcher in Devon discovered a recipe for a pasty tucked inside an audit book and dated 1510, calculating the cost of the ingredients.[18] This replaced the previous oldest recipe, dated 1746, held by the Cornwall Records Office in Truro, Cornwall.[19] The dish at the time was cooked with venison, in this case from the Mount Edgcumbe estate, as the pasty was then considered a luxury meal.[20] Alongside the ledger, which included the price of the pasty in Plymouth, Devon in 1509, the discovery sparked a controversy between the neighbouring counties of Devon and Cornwall as to the origin of the dish.[19][21][22] However, the term pasty appears in much earlier written records from other parts of the country, as mentioned above
 
Wow, we will all be great history buffs on food in this thread. Interesting how certain foods became to be. It makes me wonder , even though the same spices were around then , how much stronger were they then? I wonder how different the taste of oil was back then.
 
No they were just wrapped up in a paper wrapper like a McDonald's Cheeseburger. This is a working class sort of food, it's a British kind of thing. I imagine that queenie would know about them. They're kind of like a calzone, but with a different filling. I think they came about in the late 19th century when there was a large working class that needed easy food and sliced bread had not yet been invented. OK, I just googled it and it dates even farther back however, it became really popular in the late 19th century as an easy "bagged lunch" for the working class.

According to Wikipedia

Despite the modern pasty's strong association with Cornwall, its exact origins are unclear. The term "pasty" is an English word for a pie, of venison or other meat, baked without a dish. Pasties have been mentioned in cookbooks throughout the ages; for example the earliest version of Le Viandier has been dated to around 1300 and contains several pasty recipes.[3] In 1393, Le Menagier De Paris contains recipes for pasté with venison, veal, beef, or mutton.[4]

Other early references to pasties include a 13th century charter which was granted by Henry III (1207–1272) to the town of Great Yarmouth. The town is bound to send to the sheriffs of Norwich every year one hundred herrings, baked in twenty four pasties, which the sheriffs are to deliver to the lord of the manor of East Carlton who is then to convey them to the King.[5] Around the same time, 13th century chronicler Matthew Paris wrote of the monks of St Albans Abbey "according to their custom, lived upon pasties of flesh-meat".[6] A total of 5,500 venison pasties were served at the installation feast of George Neville, archbishop of York and chancellor of England in 1465.[7] They were even eaten by royalty, as a letter from a baker to Henry VIII's third wife, Jane Seymour (1508–1537) confirms: "...hope this pasty reaches you in better condition than the last one..."[8] In his diaries written in the mid 17th century, Samuel Pepys makes several references to his consumption of pasties, for instance "dined at Sir W. Pen’s ... on a damned venison pasty, that stunk like a devil.",[9] but after this period the use of the word outside Cornwall declined.[10]

In contrast to its earlier place amongst the wealthy, during the 17th and 18th centuries the pasty became popular with working people in Cornwall, where tin miners and others adopted it due to its unique shape, forming a complete meal that could be carried easily and eaten without cutlery.[11][12][13] In a mine the pasty's dense, folded pastry could stay warm for several hours, and if it did get cold it could easily be warmed on a shovel over a candle.[14]

Side-crimped pasties gave rise to the suggestion that the miner might have eaten the pasty holding the thick edge of pastry, which was later discarded, thereby ensuring that his dirty fingers (possibly including traces of arsenic) did not touch food or his mouth.[15] However many old photographs show that pasties were wrapped in bags made of paper or muslin and were eaten from end-to-end;[16] according to the earliest Cornish recipe book, published in 1929, this is "the true Cornish way" to eat a pasty.[17] Another theory suggests that pasties were marked at one end with an initial and then eaten from the other end so that if not finished in one go, they could easily be reclaimed by their owners.[14]

In 2006, a researcher in Devon discovered a recipe for a pasty tucked inside an audit book and dated 1510, calculating the cost of the ingredients.[18] This replaced the previous oldest recipe, dated 1746, held by the Cornwall Records Office in Truro, Cornwall.[19] The dish at the time was cooked with venison, in this case from the Mount Edgcumbe estate, as the pasty was then considered a luxury meal.[20] Alongside the ledger, which included the price of the pasty in Plymouth, Devon in 1509, the discovery sparked a controversy between the neighbouring counties of Devon and Cornwall as to the origin of the dish.[19][21][22] However, the term pasty appears in much earlier written records from other parts of the country, as mentioned above

Funny how you live someplace and never realize some little shop tucked in a corner and it contains yummy stuff.
 

I'm well versed in pasties and was more curious about how you had them.

Every mining town that started in the 1850s to 1900 serves pasties, because immigrants introduced them. The cornish who left coals mine to mine metals in the US. Then the recipes moved from mining town to mining town.

Though I am far more a fan of calzones.
 
I'm well versed in pasties and was more curious about how you had them.

Every mining town that started in the 1850s to 1900 serves pasties, because immigrants introduced them. The cornish who left coals mine to mine metals in the US. Then the recipes moved from mining town to mining town.

Though I am far more a fan of calzones.

This was my actual first of pasty. So I guess I was a virgen. I knew what they were for a long time and had been eyeing this shop, but never actually stopped and ventured in. They were only $2.50 for the small ones which was plenty for Fran and I. We could get a large for $4.50 and that would have fed both of us, but I like the idea of us each having our own. The big one looked rather large! :lmao:

I guess it was the US history that I was thinking of because I didn't realize that they dated back so far in European history. Since sliced bread didn't come around until the 30's or so sandwiches weren't as big.
 
I need to take us a picture of some of the savoury pies, sausage rolls and pasties we have here. That's one of the Aussie tucker that is iconic to have here as well as in the Old Dart.
 
I need to take us a picture of some of the savoury pies, sausage rolls and pasties we have here. That's one of the Aussie tucker that is iconic to have here as well as in the Old Dart.

What do you put on them?
 
Interesting. You could shoot for the middle and use ketchup.
 
Good Night everyone, sleep well when you do.
 
What do you put on them?
Unless it is a plain meat pie I eat them without anything Other than a side of mashed potato.

The only sauce I have with a meat pie is TOMATO SAUCE.
Ketchup only if I'm desperate.

A good pie or pasty requires no adorning with a sauce.
Only crap ones.
 
I am talking thick egg noodles. Rice noodles are not comparable to pasta. Egg noodles are directly comparable to spaghetti. And ignoring the shape, spiral egg noodles have also been used for chinese noodle stir fry by my family and other chinese friends in the early days of migration.
That's precisely the point. Rice noodles are the main noodle I eat. So. To me an Asian noodle dish comprises thin noodles or rice noodles.

Hence. For me. Regardless of what YOUR family do. (which my Asian friend looked aghast about in using spirals :eek: ) noodle dishes are very different to pasta.
 
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