Girl Kidnapped At 11 Is Found 18 Years Later

[Imzadi]

Nevermind. Incorrect info.

 

[ZachnElli]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49912&highlight=jaycee+dugard


scroll down to post #12.

That picture could easily be one of her 2 daughters, they are 11 and 15. My DD looks just like me. Just saying.

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

That picture could easily be one of her 2 daughters, they are 11 and 15. My DD looks just like me. Just saying.

Even on that thread there's debate about whether or not it's her or one of her daughters, or if it was a screenshot from old video. The video just doesn't look like someone who was just rescued from imprisonment for 18 years.

I wonder who they think the guy murdered??

 

[The Mystery Machine]

Even on that thread there's debate about whether or not it's her or one of her daughters, or if it was a screenshot from old video. The video just doesn't look like someone who was just rescued from imprisonment for 18 years.

That does not look like her at the police station, it looks like an old photo to me.

Anyway if that was a pic of her at the police station you would see every news station plaster it 24/7 I would think.

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

Police Search for Murder Evidence at Property Where Woman Allegedly Held Captive 18 Years

Friday, August 28, 2009

The shocking story of a woman allegedly held captive 18 years in a rapist's back yard got even grimmer Friday evening, with reports that the rapist's Antioch, Calif., property is being searched for evidence in the murder of several prostitutes.

Contra Costa Sheriff's Department Capt. Daniel Terry said police officers from the nearby city of Pittsburg executed a search warrant Friday at the home of Phillip Garrido for clues in the unsolved slayings.


Several of the murdered women's bodies were dumped near an industrial park where Garrido worked during the 1990s.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,544000,00.html

 

[tekmom]

That does not look like her at the police station, it looks like an old photo to me.

Anyway if that was a pic of her at the police station you would see every news station plaster it 24/7 I would think.

Sorry, I saw it early on yesterday and hadn't been back to the thread.

 

[Liberty Belle]

I just saw a video of the male monster in a courtroom. He looks pure evil. Honestly, he is one of the scariest looking people I've ever seen. His eyes are completely soulless.

The female monster was kind of shaking and wiggling in her chair and I thought she was sobbing until she looked up and had a blank face. It was almost like she had Parkinson's or something.

 

[BeachGirlFLA]

I just saw a video of the male monster in a courtroom. He looks pure evil. Honestly, he is one of the scariest looking people I've ever seen. His eyes are completely soulless.

The female monster was kind of shaking and wiggling in her chair and I thought she was sobbing until she looked up and had a blank face. It was almost like she had Parkinson's or something.

I thought the same thing about him....he looks evil.

 

[lillygator]

Police Search for Murder Evidence at Property Where Woman Allegedly Held Captive 18 Years

Friday, August 28, 2009

The shocking story of a woman allegedly held captive 18 years in a rapist's back yard got even grimmer Friday evening, with reports that the rapist's Antioch, Calif., property is being searched for evidence in the murder of several prostitutes.

Contra Costa Sheriff's Department Capt. Daniel Terry said police officers from the nearby city of Pittsburg executed a search warrant Friday at the home of Phillip Garrido for clues in the unsolved slayings.


Several of the murdered women's bodies were dumped near an industrial park where Garrido worked during the 1990s.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,544000,00.html

oh no.... so glad he has finally been caught though.

 

[DebIreland]

Is is so heartbreaking.

Maybe I shouldn't say this at all but I can't help thinking that this isn't a miracle or a dream come true for Jaycee's loved ones. My brother worked with a man years ago whose son had been taken many years before. Obviously their greatest dream was to find him but he said they'd rather believe he had died peacefully as a child than hear he had suffered years of abuse at the hands of a pedophile. I'm not for a second dismissing the importance of her being found now as opposed to not being found at all but how utterly devastating for the family to now know what she's been through.

Those tents in his back yard, the sexual abuse, those poor sweet kids born and raised there.... I feel sick.

There are two criminals - the husband and the wife. I can't fathom why many news stories are reporting as if she's just his wife. She was in it from the start. She was in the car when Jaycee was taken. She's not just an accomplice in my mind - she's as guilty of kidnapping and vile abuse as anyone could be.

 

[Caffeinatedkat]

I have not read this whole thread so I am not sure if this was brought up but in 18 years she only had 2 babies? Did he stop raping her when she got older? She should have about 6 or 7 kids. Plus they are both girls? Weird. I think she was either pregnant more times and they were boys and done away with, or as soon as those girls got older they became victims and mom was left alone.

 

[jlmarr]

Hurray for the observant UC Berkeley officer!

http://www.sacbee.com/latest/story/2146523.html

 

[Imzadi]

Hurray for the observant UC Berkeley officer!

http://www.sacbee.com/latest/story/2146523.html

She deserves the Metal of Honor or whatever is the highest honor one can get. I know she works with police officers and it could be said she did her duty, but considering how many other officers dropped the ball on this one, those three owe their lives to her.

It was said on the news that the police admitted they got a call back in 2006 that there were tents in the backyard, kids back there and that Garrido was a sexual offender. And nothing was done with that call.

I have not read this whole thread so I am not sure if this was brought up but in 18 years she only had 2 babies? Did he stop raping her when she got older? She should have about 6 or 7 kids. Plus they are both girls? Weird. I think she was either pregnant more times and they were boys and done away with, or as soon as those girls got older they became victims and mom was left alone.

I'm wondering if there is a possibility that she's infertile now. She never was able to get prenatal care for her two children, nor was she able to have a doctor for labor or for post care. While, women have been having babies for eons, this was no normal situation. He could have also abused her to such an extent that she's unable to bear more kids.

 

[mrsheppo]

This was not the first time this evil person kidnapped and raped someone. He was first caught back in 1976 in Reno.

http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/55948492.html

I can't believe he said that he has become a changed man and he has a heart-warming story to tell of how he was cured. Maybe he will experience what he did to Jaycee by a fellow prisoner.

 

[PatriciaH]

And I just read that the prisons in CA are so overcrowded and out of funds that the state is telling the jails they must get rid of 40,000 + prisoners!!! Where do they go....

 

[lillygator]

Is is so heartbreaking.

Maybe I shouldn't say this at all but I can't help thinking that this isn't a miracle or a dream come true for Jaycee's loved ones. My brother worked with a man years ago whose son had been taken many years before. Obviously their greatest dream was to find him but he said they'd rather believe he had died peacefully as a child than hear he had suffered years of abuse at the hands of a pedophile. I'm not for a second dismissing the importance of her being found now as opposed to not being found at all but how utterly devastating for the family to now know what she's been through.

Those tents in his back yard, the sexual abuse, those poor sweet kids born and raised there.... I feel sick.

There are two criminals - the husband and the wife. I can't fathom why many news stories are reporting as if she's just his wife. She was in it from the start. She was in the car when Jaycee was taken. She's not just an accomplice in my mind - she's as guilty of kidnapping and vile abuse as anyone could be.

it's such a hard thing...I mean, as a parent, a human, whatever....it is sick to think but my goodness...would it have been better to have been killed and not endured years of this? will these girls ever have the life they so deserve?

 

[BeachGirlFLA]

it's such a hard thing...I mean, as a parent, a human, whatever....it is sick to think but my goodness...would it have been better to have been killed and not endured years of this? will these girls ever have the life they so deserve?

I can understand that feeling, but I think if you asked concentration camp survivors whether they would have rather been killed or gone through what they went through (and I know concentration camp survivors would have gone through it for a shorter time period, but it's the best comparison I can come up with at 7:30 in the morning) most would say that at least they got a chance at a life after the concentration camp and that's how I feel about this case, too. At least they'll have a chance.

 

[lillygator]

I can understand that feeling, but I think if you asked concentration camp survivors whether they would have rather been killed or gone through what they went through (and I know concentration camp survivors would have gone through it for a shorter time period, but it's the best comparison I can come up with at 7:30 in the morning) most would say that at least they got a chance at a life after the concentration camp and that's how I feel about this case, too. At least they'll have a chance.

true, I really hope there are people who can help these girls.

 

[m&m's mom]

Very interesting article from Clint Van Zandt, an FBI Profiler:

http://clintvanzandt.newsvine.com/_...gard-stockholm-syndrome-or-just-staying-alive

On June 10, 1991, then eleven-year-old Jaycee Lee Dugard was kidnapped as she waited for a school bus 150 yards from her home. She was rescued this week due, in part, to a sharp-eyed University of California (Berkley) Police Officer going the extra mile in an otherwise routine interview. Dugard was allegedly abducted by convicted sex offender Phillip Garrido and his wife Nancy, who pulled Dugard into their car that sunny June day and kept their victim, and the eventual two children fathered by Garrido with young Dugard, in tents, sheds and other outbuildings in the rear yard of the Garrido residence. In this case Garrido and his two offspring by Dugard, girls ages 11 and 15, were trying to pass out Garrido's religious handouts on the college campus when confronted by the officer. Garrido did not have a permit to distribute such literature and when the officer attempted to speak to the two children, they avoided eye contact with him. A check on Garrido revealed his registered sex offender status and a call to his parole officer resulted in an interview of Garrido where the true identity of Dugard and her two daughters was finally determined. Almost two decades later Dugard was placed in touch with her biological mother and step father, two people who never lost hope in her eventual return. But why, some have begun to ask, didn't Dugard try to escape and thereby rescue herself from her captors?

Elizabeth Smart was held nine months by her captive before being identified and even then she was initially reluctant to admit her true identity. Elisabeth Fritzl was held in an underground bunker by her biological father, giving birth to seven children by him before she was finally rescued, this after 24 years of captivity, and Shawn Hornbeck was eleven when kidnapped in 2002. Hornbeck was rescued four years later when his abductor was identified after kidnapping yet another young boy. Shawn had lived in relative safety and security with his captor, apparently never trying to escape the emotional bonds that held him to his kidnapper. Why, once again, didn't Hornbeck, or Patricia Hearst, or other similar kidnap victims attempt to escape their captors?

The Stockholm Syndrome

In August 1973, a heavily-armed robber by the name of Olafson swaggered into a busy bank in downtown Stockholm, Sweden. Firing shots as he entered, he took three women and a man hostage, strapped dynamite to their bodies, and herded them into a subterranean bank vault where he refused police demands for his surrender and the release of his hostages for the next six days.

After the eventual arrest of the robbers (a friend of the bank robber who was in prison at the time had been brought mid-standoff to the bank at the demand of Olafson) and the rescue of the four victims, the continued friendly and caring attitude on the part of some of the hostages toward their captors was viewed with suspicion. This was especially so when the police considered that the captives were abused, threatened, and had allegedly feared for their lives during the week they had been held against their will. Authorities were even more amazed when they found out that one or more of the female hostages may have had consensual physical intimacy with their captors.

The relationship between the robbers and their former captives thereafter saw former hostage Kristin break off her engagement to another man in order to become engaged to Olafson; while another former hostage started a defense fund to pay for the robbers' legal defense.

The relationship that can develop between hostages and kidnap victims and their captors is now known as "the Stockholm Syndrome," a type of emotional bonding that is in reality a survival strategy for victims of emotional and physical abuse— including not only hostages, but also battered spouses and partners, abused children, and even POWs.

The bond that exists between the captor/abuser and his or her victim is strong and can compel the victim to stay with (or otherwise support the actions of the abuser) when the need to run is blatantly obvious to everyone but the victim. The investment that one has made in the relationship directly impacts the ability to recognize the negative or threatening aspects of the association. This also affects the ability to either correct or flee.

A kidnap victim is told that if she tries to escape, she'll be killed. Wolfgang Priklopil, the Austrian kidnapper of then 10-year-old Natascha Kampusch, told his victim that he slept with grenades under his pillow and that the house in which she was held was wired with explosives, suggesting she would die if she tried to escape. Eight years later Kampusch finally jumped from a car in which she was traveling with her kidnapper and escaped. He later committed suicide by jumping in front of a train. Other victims are told that their family members and even their pets will be killed if they try to escape or that their "former" family had secretly arranged for their kidnapping or had otherwise moved on without a care in the world for the victim. For many kidnap victims, the need to survive may eventually develop into some type of dependency bond with their captor and their learned helplessness may eventually evolve into a type of misplaced love that could somehow be reciprocated by the kidnapper.

The bottom line is that staying alive can allow us to adopt to the worst of situations, something, perhaps, similar to women who are victims of domestic violence but do not try to leave or "escape" their abuser. The challenge for victims such as Jaycee Lee Dugard is to understand they did what they had to do to survive and that they have nothing to be ashamed of. This will take time and care and while some wounds never heal, time can help. In the case of Jaycee and her two daughters, none of whom attended school or saw a doctor or dentist or had any friends during their captivity, life and their position in the world outside of the tents and sheds they lived in for most or all of their lives will be a lengthy learning experience that will take years for them to process. And for the two monsters that are responsible for this travesty; their day in court will eventually come. As for me, this is just one more reason for a one-strike law for sexual predators that would prevent known offenders like Garrido from reoffending in such terrible ways.

 

[dismom2]

He was suppose to be serving 50 years for a prior kidnapping, and LIFE for the rape of the prior kidnapping victim. He was paroled after TEN years.

This is a disgrace, to say the very lease. He kidnapped Jaycee less than three years after being released. Who let this monster out, and why? Even with jails being over-populated, these are not the type of prisoners who should be let out on early release. If anyone had looked at the details of his crimes (I read about the prior crime, and the man is sick---and he admitted that the only way he can get satisfied is by "force") , and his whole past record and mental state, they should have known better.

I read that Jaycee considers her relationship with the monster to be like a marriage now. How sad.

Also, one of the neighbors, whose mother lived on the same block, knew he was a convicted s-offender with young children living there, but "what can we do, we just have to look out for our own". What kind of attitude is that? As long as it's not MY child....


The more I read and hear, the sicker this makes me.