Getting "carded" in Epcot

[Mskanga]

I got carded the last time in Epcot , and so was dh. Boy was I happy to show my ID!!!

 

[princess angel]

I'm 30, and always get carded at Epcot... I do look younger than 30, so I expect it
but one time I was in Mexico, at the frozen margarita stand, and they asked for my I.D. it so happened that I didnt have my drivers license with me at the time, and left my passport in the room, so I compromised, I had my temporary new DL (we moved from CT to NY) with no picture...... and I had an I.D with my picture on it, but no birth date, so I took out both, showed the cm, "look, one has my picture, one has my birth date, they both have my name on them...I am 30, and this is going to have to work..."

he took it!

you should alwasy have I.D on you no matter what, just for safety reasons if anything!

 

[Disney845]

Originally posted by sdamico71
He didn't ask for a manager, but if I would have been with him, I would have asked.

I suppose I just don't see why you would feel the need to make such a big deal about this. I mean does it really hurt you to open your wallet and pull out the DL to show someone. I would think with all of the problems that occur in the world (especially these days) that being carded in your 30s-40s is not a major hassle to deal with. In fact I would think that you should rather they card everyone than inadvertantly contributing to minors drinking. WDW is a business. They are out to make money. If they were caught selling alcohol to minors there is a chance (albeit slim) that their license to serve alcohol could be taken away. It behooves them to be overly cautious (and in fact I would applaud them for it). I clearly do not think there would be ANY reason in the world why you would think that being carded for the purchase of an item that is illegal to citizens under a certain age is cause for speaking with a manager!!

 

[pewing]

I would have to side with WDW on this one too It's better to offend someone than to provide alcohol to an underage park goer. They have to be careful.

If it makes you feel better...I'm a 36 year old...mother of two...who has been dying her hair for years...and I was carded at a James Taylor concert last year and b/c I didn't have my license with me...my DH had to go back and buy me a margarita I didn't complain...I understood the principle.

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

Originally posted by Disney845
I suppose I just don't see why you would feel the need to make such a big deal about this. I mean does it really hurt you to open your wallet and pull out the DL to show someone. I would think with all of the problems that occur in the world (especially these days) that being carded in your 30s-40s is not a major hassle to deal with. In fact I would think that you should rather they card everyone than inadvertantly contributing to minors drinking. WDW is a business. They are out to make money. If they were caught selling alcohol to minors there is a chance (albeit slim) that their license to serve alcohol could be taken away. It behooves them to be overly cautious (and in fact I would applaud them for it). I clearly do not think there would be ANY reason in the world why you would think that being carded for the purchase of an item that is illegal to citizens under a certain age is cause for speaking with a manager!!

ITA!!!

 

[da disney fans]

Originally posted by Disney845
I suppose I just don't see why you would feel the need to make such a big deal about this. I mean does it really hurt you to open your wallet and pull out the DL to show someone. I would think with all of the problems that occur in the world (especially these days) that being carded in your 30s-40s is not a major hassle to deal with. In fact I would think that you should rather they card everyone than inadvertantly contributing to minors drinking. WDW is a business. They are out to make money. If they were caught selling alcohol to minors there is a chance (albeit slim) that their license to serve alcohol could be taken away. It behooves them to be overly cautious (and in fact I would applaud them for it). I clearly do not think there would be ANY reason in the world why you would think that being carded for the purchase of an item that is illegal to citizens under a certain age is cause for speaking with a manager!!

Absolutely!!!

I really don't understand why some people get so bent out of shape over having to produce an ID when buying alcohol. For pete's sake, take it as a compliment!

Oh, and gray hair doesn't mean much. My DH started getting grays when he was 19-20, and my grandfather was completely salt and pepper by the time he was 21.

 

[sdamico71]

Obviously you didn't care to read the initial post.
You simply felt that you needed to educate me in your
My original post stated that we DID NOT have our ID with us at Disney that day. I rarely carry ID with me into an amusement park. I do not need to show ID when using my credit cards because I either pay with cash (don't require ID to use greenbacks) or my Disney resort card.
I was posting to let others know that it can happen to them. And to let them be aware. I am sure that I am not the only one who doesn't carry identification all of the time. You obviously have never tried to get a new license in PA. You must produce a picture ID, as well as another form of ID to get a new license. Well, unless you have a passport, you rarely have a 2nd photo identification. Further, try getting on an airplane after your trip, stating that you lost your ID. For these reasons, I don't carry my DL. I do not need to be lectured on the safety issues of carrying ID.
I understand the need to produce ID to purchase alcohol, however, if the person looks over 21, and by a lot, I think it is insulting to ask for ID. Gray haired and balding is typically not someone that is under 21. It is not flattering at all.

 

[da disney fans]

Originally posted by sdamico71
Obviously you didn't care to read the initial post.
You simply felt that you needed to educate me in your
My original post stated that we DID NOT have our ID with us at Disney that day. I rarely carry ID with me into an amusement park. I do not need to show ID when using my credit cards because I either pay with cash (don't require ID to use greenbacks) or my Disney resort card.
I was posting to let others know that it can happen to them. And to let them be aware. I am sure that I am not the only one who doesn't carry identification all of the time. You obviously have never tried to get a new license in PA. You must produce a picture ID, as well as another form of ID to get a new license. Well, unless you have a passport, you rarely have a 2nd photo identification. Further, try getting on an airplane after your trip, stating that you lost your ID. For these reasons, I don't carry my DL. I do not need to be lectured on the safety issues of carrying ID.
I understand the need to produce ID to purchase alcohol, however, if the person looks over 21, and by a lot, I think it is insulting to ask for ID. Gray haired and balding is typically not someone that is under 21. It is not flattering at all.

I *did* read the initial post and I don't know, I just don't understand what there is to get so flustered about. Policies are policies, plain and simple. If you don't want to bring your ID with you, then expect that you may not be able to drink alcoholic beverages.

And it sounds like a breeze to get a new ID in PA. I live in MD and recently had to get a new ID (changed my name). I had to provide my birth certificate, old ID, marriage license, social security card and two proofs of address.

 

[Disney845]

Originally posted by sdamico71
Obviously you didn't care to read the initial post.

I did read your initial posting. I agree with honeymooner on this as well. It is 100% your choice if you want to carry an ID in the parks with you. If it is too much of a hassel because you are afraid to lose it, or what ever other reason, than by all means feel free to leave it locked up in your room. But in doing so you must accept the consequences of not carrying a photo ID with you, and one of those is that if you can't produce proof of age then any establishment in FL (not just WDW) has the legal right to refrain from serving you an alcoholic beverage. It doesn't matter if you are 26 or 62, if you are not able to prove you are over 21, then you may not be allowed to purchase alcohol. The thing that I find disturbing in your post is that you say you CHOOSE to leave your ID in your room then you get all bent out of shape when you are not allowed to buy alcohol! And the whole point of people that have grey hair and are balding does not really fly. I have a friend (female) who started getting grey hair at about age 12. She is in her early 20s but has to color her hair to cover all of the grey!! The young CMs who man the beverage counters in WDW are not trained to determine exactly how old a person is (the very thought of that is preposterous) so in order to ensure that they don't lose their jobs and the company does not get a bad rep they are perfectly within their rights to card ANYONE even if they are old and decrepit looking! I don't see what the point of speaking to a manager about this would be if you are clearly the one in the wrong here for "choosing" to not carry your ID and then expecting an establishment to still serve you merely because you believe they should be able to determine exactly how old your husband is just by looking at him.

 

[Mskanga]

Originally posted by sdamico71
Obviously you didn't care to read the initial post.
You simply felt that you needed to educate me in your
My original post stated that we DID NOT have our ID with us at Disney that day. I rarely carry ID with me into an amusement park. I do not need to show ID when using my credit cards because I either pay with cash (don't require ID to use greenbacks) or my Disney resort card.
I was posting to let others know that it can happen to them. And to let them be aware. I am sure that I am not the only one who doesn't carry identification all of the time. You obviously have never tried to get a new license in PA. You must produce a picture ID, as well as another form of ID to get a new license. Well, unless you have a passport, you rarely have a 2nd photo identification. Further, try getting on an airplane after your trip, stating that you lost your ID. For these reasons, I don't carry my DL. I do not need to be lectured on the safety issues of carrying ID.
I understand the need to produce ID to purchase alcohol, however, if the person looks over 21, and by a lot, I think it is insulting to ask for ID. Gray haired and balding is typically not someone that is under 21. It is not flattering at all.

Ok, I don't know if you are aware of this or not but I'm going to tell you anyway.
The federal agencies , such as the FDA, have stings that go on for places who sell alcohol , cigarrettes, etc etc. These people come into the establishments without warning , they don't tell you who they are. They act like regular customers , buy the merchandise and they go out. I know that because it happened to me, an FDA agent came to my place of employment and tried to buy a pack of cigarettes.
Weeks later I found out through my employer that they got me when they came in , they were asking me if I remembered anything unusual, I said no. Out of five of our stores that they checked , my store was the only one that passed, I asked the guy for ID , that's what saved me. The way my employer found out that they were there is when they received a letter from the FDA and gave exact dates and description of the person. The other people got a fine and lost their jobs. And you want to know something? I'm from PA too, and I do not know if you know that in PA anyone who looks 27 and under has to be ID'd for cigarettes, it's not companies policies, it's the law. You can get fined and loose your job for not ID'ing someone who looks 27 or younger eventhough the lawful age is 18 for cigarettes, that;s what happened to my other co-workers.
Bottom line is , those CM's are doing their job, you choose not to carry your DL because you are afraid of losing it, one of the consequences is that you may have difficulties obtaining something like in this case an alcoholic drink.
Truthfully, I always take DL with me because in the back of all my credit cards I have the "SEE ID" on the signature, this way if I ever lose my cc, whoever tries to use it, has to provide ID also. I get all my stuff inside of a small ziploc bag and put it in the zipped compartment of my fanny pack , along with my park hoppers.
When they ask me for ID, I think that is a compliment, besides a safety issue for the employee. If the person doesn't have ID on them, then that's their problem.
You would be surprised how many people came into my store driving a car, try to buy cigarettes and when you ask for ID they say, I don't have my drivers license with me....how can you not have a DL with you if you are driving to the store?

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

I also read the OP's first post. The CM was following the rules and I think it would have been fruitless to ask for the manager since he/she is the one responsible to see that the CM's follow the rules.
In CT if you look younger than 27 years old, they card you for cigarettes, the local grocery store cards EVERYONE for cigarettes, I am WAY past 27 and was carded and while I thought it silly at first, I realized the kid was doing her job.
I have been asked, at WDW, for an ID when using my resort key to purchase items. Did this bother me? Nope, I was pleased that they were checking.
I hope the dream that the OP comes true and that she remembers this episode when someone comes to her teller window and does not have an ID and thinks it is silly to have to carry one. In CT, without an ID you are considered a vagrant. Don't know about FL. If it is too much of an effort to carry one, then you must accept the fact that you will not get what you want everywhere. If you don't want to carry your DL, then get a state issued ID with your picture on it.

 

[SueM in MN]

I don't know if it's Minnesota law, or just the policy in the shops we go to, but in order to ring up a sale for alcohol or cigarettes, the clerk has to key in a birthdate and code for the type of ID they got it off of. No matter what the age of of the person, the register won't go past that point until the information is keyed in. That way there is no doubt about someone "looking older than 27" or people complaining that they were carded despite "grey hair". Maybe WDW changed to a system like that in some shops/carts.

 

[FOTM_Ring_Bearer]

We're annual pass holders and sometimes the finger scan doesn't work. So we've been asked to show our drivers licence so they know it's actually our pass.

 

[philaround]

In the states that I am familiar with it is the bar or restaurant that is held responsible for serving underage people. These states require that all patrons must be carded or the establishment could be penalized by having their liquor license suspended or revoked. If a liquor control officer sees any patron served without having been carded the establishment could be written up.

After saying all that, most inspectors would turn a blind eye to someone who appears to be well into their 20's or 30's. But even this doesn't always work. We have friends who's son, who is about 30 now, has looked well over thirty since he was 13. He started shaving when he was 12 and hit 6' by his 13th birthday and I have had gray hair since I was 12yo so it is not always a sure thing to tell how old someone is by just looking at them.

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

Originally posted by FOTM_Ring_Bearer
We're annual pass holders and sometimes the finger scan doesn't work. So we've been asked to show our drivers licence so they know it's actually our pass.

We have had the same thing happen and they also do random spot checks for ID's. That has happened a couple of times to us.
Not a big deal cause we have the ID's.
One time we left MK and went to Epcot, put our passes in, bio'd our fingers and it was rejected because the computer did not like the time between the two parks (guess we got there too fast, lol)again, we were asked for our ID's.

 

[Alex]

In a town near here the board of health took a 17 year old, had a profesional make up artist age him so he looked about 40. He went in to a number of stores and bought a pack of cigarettes. Every place he bought them was fined and not allowed to sell cigarettes for a period of time. They appealed saying they had been tricked. They lost.
It is the right of every business owner to protect their business and a lot of owners are deciding EVERYONE get's carded. That way they aren't relying on the help to make those decisions.
Plain and simple it's their right to ask for ID.

 

[CarolA]

He didn't ask for a manager, but if I would have been with him, I would have asked

And what was the manager suppose to do, change the law.

The law states that if asked you are suppose to provide proof that you are over 21. It does not include any exceptions for gray hair. My 90 year old grandmother got carded because the resturant made it a rule to card EVERYONE after a few of those fines and the threat of losing thier liquor license.

As for you not carrying ID, I think that is not the smartest move, but it is your call. I take youth groups places and we make them take IDs. WHat if you were to be in an accident and be unable to talk? How is anyone going to begin to figure out who you are?

 

[Mskanga]

Bottom line is the DL is not that big to carry, if you are afraid of losing it, maybe you should make photocopies and leave them with your airline tickets ( I have done that ).
I have travelled with two kids, airline tickets and passports , and I never lost anything. If I can do it with them, I sure can carry my DL to WDW.

 

[tjmw2727]

The one day I decided not to bring my ID I learned not to do that anymore. It was shortly after 911 and I was so paranoid about loosing it in the parks and not being able to board the flight home I locked it up with my other stuff.

Of course this was the one time my AP didn't scan, my dd lost her php and I got carded when I sorely wanted (needed?) a margherita at the mexico stand........

I now carry ID everywhere, no exceptions. I purchased a small id holder with a clip to go into my fanny pack. It clips inside the id pouch for extra security.

TJ

eta - I look well over 30 and haven't been "carded" other than WDW in 10+ years.

 

[Cinderella37]

I don't know if this occurred in World Showcase or in Future World, but if it happened in World Showcase, the CM's actions were probably because of the training the Cms receive. since most countries have different liquor policies and regulations, the foreign CMs are probably trained to card everyone rather than have them guess. It makes it easier on the cast member (who is surely used to a different policy). That being said, the carding policy in WDW is not consistent, as I stated in my earlier post. My fiance and I look way under 30 and weren't carded once this past trip and only a few times last July (one of them being Mexico). This is why we always have ID (I have mine on me all the time).