General Star Wars Discussion

[PolymerSkywalker]

LOL you are so predictable. I just cannot take you seriously, but at least you make me giggle. enjoy those reviews.

As are you, and the other Disney Star Wars apologist on this site. Enjoy your “Frozen meets Kill Bill” if you want to, but that sounds utterly stupid to me.

 

[Suger Mag]

Just watched Rogue 1 with one of my sons. Such a good movie.
Now he's motivated to continue the saga with A New Hope
I for one am looking forward to "The Acolyte". I've really enjoyed the spin-off series on D+.

I'm in the process of working my way through "The Clone Wars" as well. So much to watch, so little time

WHere you at in CLone wars? it has been fun seeing some of those Clone Wars arcs that I kinda 'dismissed' as not important to the current story at hand (Mortis)' becoming major parts of the storyline of Ahsoka.

I might have to do a rewatch. I was full on grad school-post doc land when they first came out. So I only recently watched them (CW and Rebels) as prep for Ahsoka.

I am looking forward to Acolyte as well. the characters look interesting. Curious to see who might make a cameo... Yoda... Huyang... Plo Koon. Looking forward to seeing a Jedi Wookie in live action. Love me some new Wookies.

 

[tx911]

WHere you at in CLone wars? it has been fun seeing some of those Clone Wars arcs that I kinda 'dismissed' as not important to the current story at hand (Mortis)' becoming major parts of the storyline of Ahsoka.

I might have to do a rewatch. I was full on grad school-post doc land when they first came out. So I only recently watched them (CW and Rebels) as prep for Ahsoka.

I am looking forward to Acolyte as well. the characters look interesting. Curious to see who might make a cameo... Yoda... Huyang... Plo Koon. Looking forward to seeing a Jedi Wookie in live action. Love me some new Wookies.

S2:E6

 

[BrianL]

Man, can we at least wait until The Acolyte is out before people start trashing it? I mean, come on! At least watch it and make up your own mind.

 

[PolymerSkywalker]

Man, can we at least wait until The Acolyte is out before people start trashing it? I mean, come on! At least watch it and make up your own mind.

I have been shocked before, but I doubt very seriously I will be this time. Plot details and history of the show runner strongly suggest this series will not be palatable to me or the average Star Wars fan.

 

[Leigh L]

I have been shocked before, but I doubt very seriously I will be this time. Plot details and history of the show runner strongly suggest this series will not be palatable to me or the average Star Wars fan.

I pretty much stay out of a lot of this thread and just read, but am just curious, what defines "the average Star Wars fan"?

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[BrianL]

I pretty much stay out of a lot of this thread and just read, but am just curious, what defines "the average Star Wars fan"?

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I think he means this guy:

 

[PolymerSkywalker]

I pretty much stay out of a lot of this thread and just read, but am just curious, what defines "the average Star Wars fan"?

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Average SW fan to me is what the fanbase was before Disney and Kathleen Kennedy badly damaged the brand. So the fans of the Star Wars that Lucas created aka “real” Star Wars?

 

[BrianL]

Average SW fan to me is what the fanbase was before Disney and Kathleen Kennedy badly damaged the brand. So the fans of the Star Wars that Lucas created aka “real” Star Wars?

I am a member of that fanbase. I love the older Star Wars stuff as much as anybody. I love the new stuff too. The fact is, the fanbase has never been a monolith. They disagreed before. The Empire Strikes Back was divisive at the time. Some fans hated Jedi. Some actually liked the Prequels. It has never been just one type of person, and it never will be. A Star Wars fan is anyone who likes Star Wars.

 

[PolymerSkywalker]

I am a member of that fanbase. I love the older Star Wars stuff as much as anybody. I love the new stuff too. The fact is, the fanbase has never been a monolith. They disagreed before. The Empire Strikes Back was divisive at the time. Some fans hated Jedi. Some actually liked the Prequels. It has never been just one type of person, and it never will be. A Star Wars fan is anyone who likes Star Wars.

Of course there are always exceptions to any rule / norm. However, it’s called a rule / norm for a reason.

I also agree that some people adore everything Disney does regardless of how good it actually is or if the average fan likes it.

 

[Kestryl]

Just watched Rogue 1 with one of my sons. Such a good movie.
Now he's motivated to continue the saga with A New Hope
I for one am looking forward to "The Acolyte". I've really enjoyed the spin-off series on D+.

I'm in the process of working my way through "The Clone Wars" as well. So much to watch, so little time

Since you brought up Clone Wars...

I had a really interesting May 4th- I think two years ago?- where a friend set up the ultimate Revenge of the Sith watch combining the movie with Clone Wars. It was a bit chaotic bouncing back and forth, but it was a lot of fun!

 

[BrianL]

Of course there are always exceptions to any rule / norm. However, it’s called a rule / norm for a reason.

I also agree that some people adore everything Disney does regardless of how good it actually is or if the average fan likes it.

But there was never a "norm." Some fans revolted when Empire came out, thinking it betrayed everything about the first one. Empire eventually came to be viewed as "the best one" but not everybody agrees. The prequels were super-divisive and garnered so much hate, yet many people loved them too. It can be said about anything. There is no universally accepted answer to which ones are good or bad, and certainly not which ones are okay to like. There is no test to be a fan!

 

[Kestryl]

But there was never a "norm." Some fans revolted when Empire came out, thinking it betrayed everything about the first one. Empire eventually cam eto be viewed as "the best one" but not everybody agrees. The prequels were super-divisive and garnered so much hate, yet many people loved them too. It can be said about anything. There is no universally accepted answer to which ones are good or bad, and certainly not which ones are okay to like. There is no test to be a fan!

My dad said the whole Darth Vader is Luke's father reveal was actually pretty controversial at the time. A number of his friends thought he was lying. Why believe the villain?

 

[BrianL]

My dad said the whole Darth Vader is Luke's father reveal was actually pretty controversial at the time. A number of his friends thought he was lying. Why believe the villain?

Oh yeah - and they left it open too. Note how Luke asks for confirmation in ROTJ. Of course, the original plan was that he was not Luke's father, which is why some might have felt that it didn't ring true. Lucas changed his mind mid-stream all the time - i.e. Leia as the sister.

 

[HokieRaven5]

For anyone interested and if it’s available in your area, the first 2 episodes of The Acolyte will be shown in theaters on Monday June 3rd:

https://fandango.az1.qualtrics.com/...Pbd_HKOQaW90HnqyzR7k1J4MksRv0eMtedPli4UcucW3m

 

[BrianL]

For anyone interested and if it’s available in your area, the first 2 episodes of The Acolyte will be shown in theaters on Monday June 3rd:

https://fandango.az1.qualtrics.com/...Pbd_HKOQaW90HnqyzR7k1J4MksRv0eMtedPli4UcucW3m

Man, I would so do this, but, alas, it is not happening near me.

 

[PolymerSkywalker]

But there was never a "norm." Some fans revolted when Empire came out, thinking it betrayed everything about the first one. Empire eventually came to be viewed as "the best one" but not everybody agrees. The prequels were super-divisive and garnered so much hate, yet many people loved them too. It can be said about anything. There is no universally accepted answer to which ones are good or bad, and certainly not which ones are okay to like. There is no test to be a fan!

George (the creator of the entire SW universe) just said it has gone off the rails since Disney took over. Sorry Brian but I will trust George’s opinion about the state of Star Wars over yours.

 

[BrianL]

George (the creator of the entire SW universe) just said it has gone off the rails since Disney took over. Sorry Brian but I will trust George’s opinion about the state of Star Wars over yours.

Did he say that? Not really. He said, "A lot of the ideas that were in [the original] sort of got lost." That does not mean "off the rails." Notice that he didn't criticize the movies. He didn't even say that he didn't like them. He doesn't go around trashing the people who made them. All he is saying is that it wasn't what he would have done - and that that is okay because when, "You give it up, you give it up." Now, sure, that doesn't mean that he does like them - he didn't say, but don't read into it.

Also, don't pretend that all the fans would have loved it if Lucas had done the ST. They would have HATED it and you know it! These are the people who drove him into retirement with inane criticism.

 

[Kestryl]

Oh yeah - and they left it open too. Note how Luke asks for confirmation in ROTJ. Of course, the original plan was that he was not Luke's father, which is why some might have felt that it didn't ring true. Lucas changed his mind mid-stream all the time - i.e. Leia as the sister.

Zig and zag, baby, always keep them guessing!

 

[irlandaise]

LOL you are so predictable.

As are you, and the other Disney Star Wars apologist on this site.

On the contrary, most people in this thread write nuanced comments about recent Star Wars movies and TV shows. They don't have a predictable knee-jerk reaction one way or another.

I probably won't try The Acolyte, but not because I've prejudged it. Rather, because I only dip into the new TV shows sporadically. The only ones I've watched have been The Mandalorian, Andor, and some of Boba Fett.